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That would make for 2.5 of our first 4 picks having injury questions hovering over them.

Lalor and Trainor/Hotton and then 0.5 on FOS as well.
Yep, I’m not even sure I’d go FOS and Lalor because of that. Trainor, concussions and positional depth equals pass.
 
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Been watching highlights and I reckon FOS looks more like a taller Gulden type than a Cotchin.
 
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Yep, I’m not even sure I’d go FOS and Lalor because of that. Trainor, concussions and positional depth equals pass.

I've harped on about this before but my thinking is that the club has to give stronger consideration than normal to the health of recruits this year given the extremely unhealthy history of our list currently. FOS I can handle (even if he does invite injury a bit with his style) because he's just received knocks on his hands and a bad corkie. But I'm highly wary of Lalor, Hotton, Trainor, Smillie and one or two others.

I really like Lalor as a player but he just screams a Fridge-Stuart Dew, constant soft tissue injury type to me.
 
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I've said this same thing myself, however there becomes a balance.

If GC refuse to deal with Pick 6, then Rioli doesn't leave and comes back and puts in 100%. He's genuinely not 1 to act out of spite IMO, and will put in 100% for him.
However, he has asked to leave and if a strong offer is put forward for him, then I expect he expects to leave. Whilst we may posture that 6 and 12 is getting them to overpay (and there are reasons why we want that to happen), would you if you were in Dan's position?

A happy medium will occur. the Suns will pay up, but it seems that many here think we will hold them by the balls and squeeze squeeze squeeze, but I don't think we'll do it that hard. Afterall, "winning" the trade period gets you nowhere, Essendon is a great example, having good relationships with other clubs for future trades is also something that should be considered in any dealings.

I do think a lot of non Tiger fans under rate Dan, its clear to see on BF where people are saying he's not worth Pick 6. He absolutely is, but is he worth a lot more than that at 27? I'm not sure. I would think if we want Pick 12, we would need to be giving back a future 2nd.
Poshie. We are not Essington. We have a long-established and well-earned rep as fair and equitable traders.

I would suggest the responsibility to maintain good relations between RFC and the Black Hole Suns lies not with us but with the upstart interloper who stole our coach, poached our staff and is now coming for our long-term contracted champion, who also happens to be Richmond royalty.

We are a classy club, so we will greet them at the door with a fresh pot of tea, a plate of Iced VoVos, and an Ecky Thump in the back sky rocket.
 
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Good question. A few I don't care for much eg Shanahan and others might take a long time to reach their potential which in itself is a bit questionable with some I reckon.

If Tauru wasn't climbing so much right now (as it seems) I would have said he's the best ROI key forward. I think there's still good value in Nicholls from SA. I think O'Farrell could also. Of the short priced favourites, probably Armstrong.

But to answer your question, I like Tauru. He competes real hard. Crashes packs. Prepared to stand under the ball and take a hit when it's not lace out. Jumps. Bit of J Riewoldt and N Caddy about him.
No love for Faull?
 
I've harped on about this before but my thinking is that the club has to give stronger consideration than normal to the health of recruits this year given the extremely unhealthy history of our list currently. FOS I can handle (even if he does invite injury a bit with his style) because he's just received knocks on his hands and a bad corkie. But I'm highly wary of Lalor, Hotton, Trainor, Smillie and one or two others.

I really like Lalor as a player but he just screams a Fridge-Stuart Dew, constant soft tissue injury type to me.
Cotch had injuries. Judd had injuries - both great long careers.

Dew won 2 flags. The 3rd quarter in the Hawks flag in 2008 he totally owned it.
 
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Cotch had injuries. Judd had injuries - both great long careers.

Dew won 2 flags. The 3rd quarter in the Hawks flag in 2008 he totally owned it.

I would prefer to avoid the risk if a player of equal standing is there. One I can take, not any more than that. We've just got way too many players already with repeat injuries.

It's been utterly killing us the last few years. We need to break this cycle.
 
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I'd have to do the calcs but probably. We might be able to snag both their 1st this year and next year.
do they have more Academy kids next year? If not, what's the incentive for them to trade out their future first?
 
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Amazing how players dart in and out of public favour.
Simms has dropped out of view and Jack Whitlock nowhere to be seen. He’s still my pick based on athletic profile.
Faull is your get our jail up the line forward. Stands under packs. But has some toe. Gets up and back.
 
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I've harped on about this before but my thinking is that the club has to give stronger consideration than normal to the health of recruits this year given the extremely unhealthy history of our list currently. FOS I can handle (even if he does invite injury a bit with his style) because he's just received knocks on his hands and a bad corkie. But I'm highly wary of Lalor, Hotton, Trainor, Smillie and one or two others.

I really like Lalor as a player but he just screams a Fridge-Stuart Dew, constant soft tissue injury type to me.
Yeah but you're forgetting that we have the best S&C team currently outside the AFL system.
 
Watching Heeney marking we must not miss out on FOS. Marking and class kicking such a weapon.
 
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I would do Rioli for 6 + Gold Coast 2025 1st round.
The top 25 this year are rated very highly
Next years draft according to Twomey is very shallow.
Get 7 picks under 25 and unleash.
Fingers crossed that 2 or 3 are the next Edwards, Cotchin and Castagna
 
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do they have more Academy kids next year? If not, what's the incentive for them to trade out their future first?
I don't think they do, but if they want to bring in Ashcroft AND Marshall (and I suspect they do), then they will need a lot more points this year. They currently have 1394. They may get some by trading out some players (Robertson possibly) and obviously will trade their 1st back this year, but I don't think they will generate enough points to get those 2 by just doing those things. They will need to involve future picks and bearing in mind the expected reduction to point values next year, their 2nd next year isn't worth as much, so it brings their 1st into the discussion. I guess they could generate enough for Ashcroft and take the balance into next year, which will wipe out their 2nd anyway, and possibly their 3rd. They will generally be better by trading.

Doing a bit of maths and lets say we are generous.

For Pick 15, we give them picks 39, 41, 47 and 57 (1,356 points) and promise not to bid at 1. Thats worth an extra 386 points from Pick 2, so essentially all up thats a premium of 630 points. I don't think we will offer them quite as much as that, but neither will anyone else. No-one is paying them a premium of 600+ points for Pick 15 IMO.

But lets say we do that generous deal above, it takes their pick value from 1394 points up to 1,638.

If Ashcroft is big on at 2, the required points value to bid is 2,013.6 points so they already have a shortfall, and haven't even big on Marshall yet.

Even if they get something for Robertson, I'd guess having spent most of the year in the 2's, then he's probably worth a pick in the 40's. Potentially that gets them another 350-400 so getting close to Ashcroft, but still nothing for Marshall.

I can't see how they get this done without using at a future pick. I don't have a copy of the new DVI, but their future 2nd may not be enough to get the points for this year, hence they may be best to trade their F1. If we could get some sort of mid range F2 from someone in a trade, maybe this could be used to gain access to their 1st (ie. buy their F1 with that mid range F2 - not ours - and an extra pick this year).

There will be heaps of options but I can't see a way that Brissy can do this without future pick trading into this years draft.
 
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