quite strange that Leo Lombard and Levi Ashcroft would go?
my understanding is clubs fill out a finite list of players they want tested,
and a player needs 2 or more noms to be invited.
why would clubs waste a spot on Ashcroft or Lombard?
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2024 Draft Thread
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quite strange that Leo Lombard and Levi Ashcroft would go?
my understanding is clubs fill out a finite list of players they want tested,
and a player needs 2 or more noms to be invited.
why would clubs waste a spot on Ashcroft or Lombard?
We have gone down the Cats path, injuries have destroyed our last 3 seasons. Lynch is the best key forward in the game but cannot get on the park. Lefau & Balta may have been the other foil. Gibcus may have been the key defender we are missing. Hopper hasn't had a great run at it, nor Prestia. We did exactly what the Cats have done, unfortunately our injuries have been to our most important players. Grimes fell off a cliff. It would be a very optimistic supporter who thought we will get 20 plus games out of each of Lynch/Prestia/Hopper/Gibcus/Nank. Our best 22 could have threatened this year. But thinking we can somehow challenge in the next 2-3 years is pretty optimistic IMO.
Hawks look on track, they need to upgrade a few spots. Again, a few injuries and they will struggle.
Injuries are everything. The Pies are Top 4 material (probably Top 2), the Swans form bump coincides with injuries, Melb the same.
No side has won a premiership in recent memory whilst missing key players.
You cannot plan for injuries but I think we have to accept we are not challenging in the short-term.
I think clubs pick who might be in there top 50,,The combine to me is a load of rubbish ,you can see what a player can do with your eyes.
Recruiters would of spoken to most player's already ,l guess it might be good for medico's to get current info ,and some coaches for a meet and greet.
I agree with this 100%. Had injuries been different, we'd have looked at the last 2 years very differently IMO, but we are where we are at and I don't think anyone seriously think we will be challenging in the next 2-3 years, and our plan was always that we were going to be regenerating through the draft through these years, we are probably just that little bit closer to the bottom of the ladder than we probably would have expected due to the raft of injuries that we've had. To basically lose the entire spine of our team through the early mid part of the season has been critical to where we are now.
The Cats path is a hard one to replicate. You need a Stephen Wells type recruiter who can consistently get gun footballers outside the top ten. Frank had a similar record to Wells for a few years there. They both had their first round misses Corey Ellis, Ben Lennon, Jackson Thurlow and Darcy Lang. Frank nailed Jack, Shedda, Rance, Astbury, Grimes, Broad, Danny, Lambo and Shai among others outside the top ten. You don't always know what you have got till it's gone. I wonder where we would be if Frank kept going like Wells has at the Cats.
Frank is still going, just not heading recruiting up (as we know).
The biggest thing they had in common - they both were willing to back their eye in and take players on limited stats/experience. Reckon there is almost too much over analysis these days.
They could draft champions. We haven't had that ability for many years now.
How would Wells be looked at on here on draft days? Imagine he if we took guys from reserves WAFL footy like Humphries last year ha! Or trade a future first rounder on draft night then pick Max Holmes who was on no-ones radar.
I hope FJ has some influence in this draft ,so we stop taking nice types and get some hard physical types .
The thing that really pissed me off about Clarke was how arrogant or up himself he is.
When he took over from FJ, he said that FJ style was outdated ,and we needed a different approach ,l wonder what Clarke was thinking when we won the 2017 cup ,of course he gets the credit being in the top job ,same as Dodo in 2000.
1. Richmond - FOS
2. Brisbane (match bid) - Ashcroft
3. GC (match bid) - Lombard
4. WC - Draper
5. Norf - Trainor
6. Adelaide - Smillie
7. St Kilda - Jagga
8. Richmond - Lalor
Enough of this maturity. These are Web forums. We'll have none of this shenanigans!
Maybe right for Lalor. It's my ideal scenario, not a prediction.
Disagree on Lombard. He's as good as Draper.
Lombard wasn't as good against better opposition .
Lalor brings other's into the game ,and makes them work into space ,Gazza jnr used to do that .
St Kilda will have another pick after 7.
If we took FOS on exposed form right now, it would be madness.
Adelaide will trade up to get Draper I reckon.
Wells is the best but let’s not overstate the difference between the best and the rest in pure talent spotting. Holmes was his first successful 1st rounder since Harry Taylor in 2007. Even the best recruiters are going at say 50% success (just for example) whereas the average might be 40%. Just as important is strategy to keep turning over list and getting as many shots as possible to overcome the random nature of drafting.
I tell ya what, if we did that, we'd need a few more mods and not just on draft night.
There's several folks, who because we picked X over y, almost spontaneous combust at player x's selection or a mistake on game day by that player, and these players aren't duds, just someone who wasn't preferred. Picking someone out of obscurity? Omg. I can only imagine the emotional trauma...
