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When will Bernie go !!

Toby. Hardwick says we don't want a shootout. We want a scrap. What does that say about game style and offensive intent?
 
lamb22 said:
Go on Tobes, what does " We are not a team that wins by ten goals" mean?

Ask him mutton. I'm not in the game of taking a cheery picked sentence and then using it to lie about the handbrake being applied. That's your game. Leppacella in charge rounds 1-5, handbrske then on. A simple quote to the press about trying to slow down Adelaide in round 6 and suddenly Dimmas taken the reins again.

So many assumptions that's are passed off as facts. You are a master of it.

And as I said with a fwd line of Jack, Elton and inexperienced kids, and that we have to kick 20 goals to win by 10, I don't think we are capable of doing that too often so I don't have a problem with that sentence to be honest. But you carry on making *smile* up. You wouldn't have much to say if you didn't!
 
From rounds 1 - 5 the mantra was 'just play'.

Now the players still play within broad parameters and defensive stuctures but just play means use you skills and instincts, take the attacking kick, hit up targets, take the game on and attack with intent.

From round 6 Hardwick was clear that he didn't want a shoot out but wanted a scrap. He said it before the Adelaide game and since. First it is a clear mixed message on just play.

It means defensive structures are paramount, disruption of play is king. Stoppage rather than free flowing play is king. It is a clear modification of just play and is CLEARLY a restriction on offensive intent at least in open play. If you want a scrap you are banking on more goals from stoppages and they are going to be more effort intensive and also haphazard as opposed to rebound goals or open play goals.

In the GWS game GWS played pretty much the same all game. Overall they were poor and scratchy but had flourishes of lovely ball movement sporadically all day.

We played a very good first quarter but played entirely different from then on. Less intense, less aggressive, more hesitant.

We kicked 6 goals in quarter 1 and 4 for the rest of the game.

It's not an isolated example. Adelaide 6 goals quarter 1, 4 for the rest of the game. Bullies 5 in quarter 1 and a goal to Jack at the start of quarter 2, 5 for the rest of the game.

and it mirrors how we played in 2015 and 2016 and teh first part of 2014

but yeah it's all just a big co-incidence and the player's fault. ::)
 
lamb22 said:
Did you notice we were more than 5 goals up against GWS and Bulldogs until the handbrake was applied?

Did you notice that against Collingwood and West Coast the games followed the same patterns of dour struggle as the games you cite until we eventually kicked away by small margins?

This is a *smile* narrative you are trying to push lamby.
 
Amazing that we have won 6 games when you consider how very limited our forward line is. Extremely inexperienced and lacking quality talls. Lucky to kick 10 in a game let alone win by 10. Dimma must be a genius!
 
Aegean Tiger said:
Amazing that we have won 6 games when you consider how very limited our forward line is. Extremely inexperienced and lacking quality talls. Lucky to kick 10 in a game let alone win by 10. Dimma must be a genius!

Leaving Dimma out of it, I'm actually amazed that we've been as good as we have been with soupcans as our CHF.
 
antman said:
Did you notice that against Collingwood and West Coast the games followed the same patterns of dour struggle as the games you cite until we eventually kicked away by small margins?

You might be right. Maybe they put Mogadon in the 1/4 time Gatorade .
 
Aegean Tiger said:
Amazing that we have won 6 games when you consider how very limited our forward line is. Extremely inexperienced and lacking quality talls. Lucky to kick 10 in a game let alone win by 10. Dimma must be a genius!

How whiffy does the carcass have to get before you stop humping.
 
Aegean Tiger said:
Amazing that we have won 6 games when you consider how very limited our forward line is. Extremely inexperienced and lacking quality talls. Lucky to kick 10 in a game let alone win by 10. Dimma must be a genius!

Thats the school of thought im with at the moment.

we are over acheiving. and the concept has been done to the point where you can see your own peristalysis operating.

In the interest of balance and disclosure, I am concerned about our seemingly disintegrating chaos and play.

but to balance that, were winning games with a solitary key forward. which is crafty to be sure.

to summarise, ive climbed up onto the fence. right on top.
 
easy said:
Thats the school of thought im with at the moment.

we are over acheiving.

Email Benny and Peggy so we can lock him in for another 3 years before he is poached by a rival club.
 
I reckon a cockroach would have trouble sliding underneath the Hardwick KPI performance bar.
 
lamb22 said:
Email Benny and Peggy so we can lock him in for another 3 years before he is poached by a rival club.

funny sheepish, I thought you wouldve gobbled up my standpoint from another angle.

fair enough though.
 
UKTiger said:
Dimma reckoned we were pretty good yesterday. All I can say he is easily pleased if he thought that performance was god

Really? Bombers had fixed up two decent teams coming into yesterday and we outplayed them for most of the game. Tough audience.
 
Aegean Tiger said:
Amazing that we have won 6 games when you consider how very limited our forward line is. Extremely inexperienced and lacking quality talls. Lucky to kick 10 in a game let alone win by 10. Dimma must be a genius!

Yep. Been in 9 of our 10 games right up to the final minute. With a forward line full of kids, a useless Elton and a star (who is misfiring a bit) in Jack. With forwards whose goal kicking at times has been atrocious. With many of the same bit players throughout who have shown in the past they crumble when the pressure is on.

With a list that even Carts who with Mutton Bird and a few others claimed was top 4, reckons needs rebuilding. Kids getting games each week, no apparent playing of his old favourites except the one game where Hardwick obviously overruled the rest of the selectors or spiked their drinks and picked Morris.

He must be doing something right. Or maybe Mutton is right and it's the old top 4 list overcoming a dud coach thingy.
 
what a tedious win.

just prolongs the inevitable.

when do we get to start again? eight years is long enough.
 
At last - Carts has started his "meaningless" wins rants early this season! Book September in kids, we are set for the finals! :clap :clap :clap