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When will Bernie go !!

We could drop out of the eight this coming week if not then the week after so maybe be Dumma will walk the walk.
 
Broders said:
The thing that has riled me today is how easy the players are on themselves. I don't get the sense that losing is burning away at them.

Ellis: Lamenting the fact that he thought he had kicked the winner said something to effect of: Yeah it would have been nice. oh well maybe next time.

Cotchin: When asked if losing three in row was cause for concern: "I wouldn't have thought so. We've lost by 5 and 2 points...." and finished off with "we'll learn from this and move on" Seriously I'd wanted to do a Wallace and SPEW UP!

The players are now using the same lame excuses and platitudes Hardwick does. We are going nowhere. Losing doesn't seem to matter enough to the people who should be hurting the most.

We sure set the bar low at Richmond.
 
Broders said:
The thing that has riled me today is how easy the players are on themselves. I don't get the sense that losing is burning away at them.

Ellis: Lamenting the fact that he thought he had kicked the winner said something to effect of: Yeah it would have been nice. oh well maybe next time.

Cotchin: When asked if losing three in row was cause for concern: "I wouldn't have thought so. We've lost by 5 and 2 points...." and finished off with "we'll learn from this and move on" Seriously I'd wanted to do a Wallace and SPEW UP!

The players are now using the same lame excuses and platitudes Hardwick does. We are going nowhere. Losing doesn't seem to matter enough to the people who should be hurting the most.

That is where the coach matters. Attitude affects the club at all levels, especially the players.
 
The interesting thing here now is that the most likely scenario is that both Collingwood and Richmond will be on the hunt for new coaches for 2018 and there's a fair chance that they will both be fishing the same waters for the next saviour. Collingwood have stated that Buckley will see out the year regardless and Richmond are doing their best to justify Hardwick's re-signing so it will be very interesting to see who pulls the trigger first and makes the big move.
 
I don't know why this thread has taken 94 pages. When will DH go?

1. End of this year if we don't make finals.

2. End of 2018 if we make finals and don't win any.

3. 2019 if we make finals and win one or more.

4. Anytime he wants to leave if we win a premiership (we'll probably contract him for life).
 
Need to have replacemement in pipeline. Go experienced or go newbie. Clarkson on Caracella
 
Am not a huge Hardwick fan but we should be 7 and 1, yes bad positioning and everything went right in the last 20 seconds for Fremantle against us, but if we had some luck with umpiring decisions at critical times we would be atleast 6 and 2 and against the dogs who knows if that deliberate out of bounds wasn't paid. Against the dogs we should have won considering we had a five goal lead but we were playing the reigning premiers on their home deck which is a fast track and they were always going to come back at us and on games experience who was the least experienced team in the afl that round (Richmond) People forget that good sides of previous years don't always turn up and play four qtrs of great football, they just do enough some weeks to win, unfortunately Richmond are not a lucky side, if you stop and think of all the times a ball bounced right for Hawthorn at critical times or they kick mid air or off the ground and it finds a team mate and the critics write they just know how to win which is right in some occasions but a lot comes down to luck. I am sure that the coaching direction would be to block up the space in the opposition forward line, the players didn't execute and all us fans are the ones that have to cop the ridicule of being a Richmond supporter after another heart breaking loss but gee it is much better this year to watch the Tigers than last year and whether everything that is happening game day is because of the new assistants or not the blame lays with the coach but so does the credit and at the moment we shouldn't be talking sack the coach in my opinion.
 
Whoever take over from Bernice will be handed a poisoned chalice as Dusty will have most probably moved on. Besides our remaining top standout guns the experienced players are over rated as well as the younger brigade except for Rioli who will most probably want to play with his cuz Syrup before he hangs up his booties at the Hawkers.
 
tigerboz said:
Am not a huge Hardwick fan but we should be 7 and 1.

That's the toughest part about working out where we are as a club. We're 5-3. Could easily be 7-1 after the last two weeks. I'm not sure where we are but if we lose a couple more it's time to put "Wake me up when September ends" on repeat.
 
Baloo said:
That's the toughest part about working out where we are as a club. We're 5-3. Could easily be 7-1 after the last two weeks. I'm not sure where we are but if we lose a couple more it's time to put "Wake me up when September ends" on repeat.

every side can have a few 'shoulds' but we could easily be 6 and 2 IMO. You'd take one of the last 2 close losses, all things considered, but saying we should have won both is a stretch, there are reasons why we lost both.
 
tigerboz said:
Am not a huge Hardwick fan but we should be 7 and 1, yes bad positioning and everything went right in the last 20 seconds for Fremantle against us, but if we had some luck with umpiring decisions at critical times we would be atleast 6 and 2 and against the dogs who knows if that deliberate out of bounds wasn't paid. Against the dogs we should have won considering we had a five goal lead but we were playing the reigning premiers on their home deck which is a fast track and they were always going to come back at us and on games experience who was the least experienced team in the afl that round (Richmond) People forget that good sides of previous years don't always turn up and play four qtrs of great football, they just do enough some weeks to win, unfortunately Richmond are not a lucky side, if you stop and think of all the times a ball bounced right for Hawthorn at critical times or they kick mid air or off the ground and it finds a team mate and the critics write they just know how to win which is right in some occasions but a lot comes down to luck. I am sure that the coaching direction would be to block up the space in the opposition forward line, the players didn't execute and all us fans are the ones that have to cop the ridicule of being a Richmond supporter after another heart breaking loss but gee it is much better this year to watch the Tigers than last year and whether everything that is happening game day is because of the new assistants or not the blame lays with the coach but so does the credit and at the moment we shouldn't be talking sack the coach in my opinion.

sensible stuff Boz.

yeah, we should be 6-2, but we're not. But everyone else is having catastrophes and crisis too, and so we're 1 game out of top spot.

and the sides that are rolling right now, like the Saints and Port, will have a catastrophe and crisis sometime.

has anyone seen Ports injury list? It literally, looks like this; 'there are currently no injuries'.

For a reason I dont understand (Trump, Brexit?) The pretty normal ebbs and flows of a season are being portrayed and viewed as either cataclysmic, or gilded.

Despite some KPP depth issues, which are dire by any measure, I'm enjoying 2017 a fair bit.
 
Baloo said:
That's why I said could, not should

fair enough, but I'd say the same thing, Its odd when you start to think about it, we had no right to beat Freo, ordinary for a half, terrible for a quarter, but once we launched an unlikely, hail mary comeback, we should have held on and won it. On the other hand we had every right to win the Footscray game, played well for most of the game, but they were the better side in the end and got it done professionally and for us to win it in the end was unlikely.
 
1 game between 1st and 9th. Other than Rd 1, has that ever happened 8 games into a season? It's so tight right now we are a genuine top 4 chance, as are most teams