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When will Bernie go !!

Ian4 said:
that's fair enough. but lets be serious... Collingwood are an average team that played a very Richmond-esque game by fluffing numerous chances in the first half. should have been 6 goals down at half time (at least). credit to the boys that we turned it around, but it wasn't very convincing. enjoy the win today lads because we will only win 1 of our next 5 games and be 3-4 come round 7.

Always Mr Negativity.
 
Always stating you know the future before it happens!

Cant you wait and see how many we win in the next 5 weeks before you have a whinge about it?
 
Ian4 said:
that's fair enough. but lets be serious... Collingwood are an average team that played a very Richmond-esque game by fluffing numerous chances in the first half. should have been 6 goals down at half time (at least). credit to the boys that we turned it around, but it wasn't very convincing. enjoy the win today lads because we will only win 1 of our next 5 games and be 3-4 come round 7.

Well done Ian. Let's get everyone grounded again. For goodness sakes, some people around here are actually enjoying watching the footy these days! Can't have that.
 
Ian4 said:
that's fair enough. but lets be serious... Collingwood are an average team that played a very Richmond-esque game by fluffing numerous chances in the first half. should have been 6 goals down at half time (at least). credit to the boys that we turned it around, but it wasn't very convincing. enjoy the win today lads because we will only win 1 of our next 5 games and be 3-4 come round 7.

Yet after watching Collingwood play last week many on here thought we were certainties to lose.
 
Ian4 said:
that's fair enough. but lets be serious... Collingwood are an average team that played a very Richmond-esque game by fluffing numerous chances in the first half. should have been 6 goals down at half time (at least). credit to the boys that we turned it around, but it wasn't very convincing. enjoy the win today lads because we will only win 1 of our next 5 games and be 3-4 come round 7.

As serious as you were on the match day thread when you said there's no doubt the pies were going to beat us?
 
lamb22 said:
It was the REVIEW not Hardwick that led to upheaval with coaches, development , recruiting etc. Gale is on record that Balmey is appointed to implement the FINDINGS of the REVIEW. All the Hardwick 'neutrals' or apologists keep conveniently forgetting this. Also while the review was being implemented through restructure of most football positions at the club Hardwick was sent off on a long holiday. So let's get this clear the changes were imposed on Hardwick.
So it's obvious that the "REVIEW " *smile* up massively by not recommending Dimma be sacked immediately and a new coach be appointed. Or is that only according to the " opinions " of some?

Or perhaps it's just that Balmey backed by Gale didn't have the agates required to implement the FINDINGS OF THE REVIEW, so Dimma just out stared them, then went on holidays while they chased and appointed a new assistant crew previously chosen by him.

Pretty damn sure a few of the supposed changes with coaching, development and recruiting had already started to be implemented before the review even began. Rutten and McRae were brought in before the review and kept. Don't think we ever wanted to lose Leppa, but he copped a senior gig, no club holds an assistant back from promotion to a senior gig. We'd have been more than happy to get him back.
Recruiting at the draft of player types had already changed towards a much more pacy type of player rather than big bodied one paced grunt types a few years back as well. Bonus last summer that we were finally able to trade in some decent quality developed players instead of mature fringe players in the hope they might provide something extra.
 
So the review is responsible for getting rid of most of the coaches, development staff and recruiters. Good Review.
Review must not have said to sack Hardwick. - Bad Review.
 
Baron Samedi said:
So how did Dimma and co. go in the box last night? Reasonably well I would've thought.

Collingwood prevented us from kicking long with good frontal pressure, particularly in the first half. We hit F50 but not with any system or cohesion. Kudos to Collingwood, they rolled out very well and executed their plans.

They wanted to cause turnovers and release into space on the break. They did that but were wasteful in F50.

What I loved about last night was a subtle thing, but we clearly went out to play an attacking brand like we did last week. Dimma's critics like to say he loves an arm wrestle, and that is no doubt true, but the numbers suggest we wanted to score heavily last night.

In that first half we were smashed in the uncontested ball, but broke even in the contested ball. We also got double the inside 50s. That suggests we were long and direct and pressured Collingwood into more possessions than they would've liked across half back and in midfield.

After half time we simply kept pressing. Collingwood eventually wilted and we gained the ascendancy. You don't usually belt teams like Collingwood. Buckley likes to set up from the back and generally adopts a cautious structure.

The win was good. There'll be wins like this and there'll be ten goal beltings as well.

Considering we broke even in contested ball, I'd say selection was just about right. Lambert is very limited and I would've given his spot to Miles, but that's a minor quibble.

We are staying consistent with the plan we started our with in JLT. That is a must if Dimma wants to hang around. Already, you sense a stability in selection and tactics. Of course, the subsequent question is what was happening previously, but I'm happy to enjoy this ride without excessive criticism - as long as we stick to the game plan.

It won't always work, we won't always kick 20 goals, but it IS a little rusty and I think we'll be better for the run. Hopefully Hardwick thinks so too.

Great analysis Baron.

Collingwood killed us on the fast break, their first two goals were like this and it looked like a long night to me. I was very worried in the first quarter, and well into the second. They let us off the hook with easy misses.

Still concerned about the forward structure - and more so now Griffo may miss some games. Jack came into it after the second half but looked lost in the first. Seemed to be playing too far from goal. We deployed Dusty in the third to full forward and then promptly ignored him. Paid off in the last, but I'm worried that this will be an obvious move that oppo coaches can counter since they know we'll do it. The smalls weren't as dominant as last week but still did their job.

Great that we could grind out a tough win against a well-drilled, defensively-disciplined side like Collingwood though.
 
antman said:
I was very worried in the first quarter, and well into the second. They let us off the hook with easy misses.

Its weird, on the game day thread its was doomsday. I was always confident, thought we let them off the hook in the first, should have been at least 2 up with the ball we had. Second Q even and they got those 2 late goals. I was very confident at half time, we were playing with a lot more vibrancy ;D and unpredictability than them, just needed to put it together a bit better. The game day thread, and the fox talking heads were all 'collingwood by how much' I though I must have been taking crazy pills again. We are chaos, George, Butler, Danny, Rance, Edwards, and Team damage, Dusty, Nank and Cotchy, I love it
 
antman said:
Still concerned about the forward structure - and more so now Griffo may miss some games.

I dont think its a coincidence the forward line clicked into gear post-griffens.

I cant see any real reason why Dusty shouldnt play 75% Full Forward

I reckon hes the answer to our forward line structural woes.

In the first half, our i50's were like the tigers of old. Bomb it high and hope. They killed us waltzing out.

Dusty was barely there in the first half.

I the 2nd half, they either looked for Dusty, or the another bloke who had space cause Dusty and his opponent were parked in the square.

A few of posted years ago, when we were rebounding and then propping cause there was noone to kick to, why not park someone i50 and leave 'em there?

it wasnt rocket surgery.

Jeez, I just Dimma-bashed without even meaning to.
 
tigersnake said:
Its weird, on the game day thread its was doomsday. I was always confident, thought we let them off the hook in the first, should have been at least 2 up with the ball we had. Second Q even and they got those 2 late goals. I was very confident at half time, we were playing with a lot more vibrancy ;D and unpredictability than them, just needed to put it together a bit better. The game day thread, and the fox talking heads were all 'collingwood by how much' I though I must have been taking crazy pills again. We are chaos, George, Butler, Danny, Rance, Edwards, and Team damage, Dusty, Nank and Cotchy, I love it

Gameday thread is always full of doom and gloom. Last year they were right but hilarious reading in previous years - we'd by up by 30 and you'd think we were down by 60 points. Still, people need to "vent" as they say.

My partner (not a Richmond fan) was confident we'd win at half time - I'm too emotionally scarred to be that positive unfortunately. Dimma/Blake ;-) did manage to switch us around enough at the half to get the win though.
 
I was worried at 1/4 time how much juice we'd used/ scoreboard gain.

but Id half time, I felt like we were stalking them, about to skip clear.

when they got with 2 kicks in the last, I had a horrible terror-panic that these pricks were going to destroy our season.

Then Chimp, Nankers and Dusty just stuck the foot on the gas.
 
antman said:
Still concerned about the forward structure - and more so now Griffo may miss some games.
Me too. Lennon has to really step up now.

Once Griffens went off, Rioli was basically our CHF. Not a good look.
 
evo said:
Me too. Lennon has to really step up now.

Once Griffens went off, Rioli was basically our CHF. Not a good look.

Lennon too slow, no gut running lead up work either. Can't ever see him being a KPF
 
Baloo said:
So the review is responsible for getting rid of most of the coaches, development staff and recruiters. Good Review.
Review must not have said to sack Hardwick. - Bad Review.

Whoever did the review should be the Head coach now.