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When will Bernie go !!

Baron Samedi said:
you are a cheer squaddie and that gives you zero credibility. always been the case :hihi

i have been right about hardwick's faults, the torrent of media coming from the club in 2017 is ample confirmation.

a few others have been right too. alas, you have been wrong and will no doubt continue to flail around in banner paper.

just glad the club held Dimma to account before our champions retired.

can't wait for saturday.
I was right about much Bernie was doing wrong. But I was adamant that he couldn't bring something new to the table after 7 years. On this I was wrong. Usually I hate being wrong..........
 
I wonder if this current Richmond coaching model will become the norm.

Hardwick team manager (great relationship builder with players)

Assistants tactical nous, game plans and player development.
 
Mappa said:
Seems to be ample evidence that good people can actually change and improve.

Yep. Dimma ain't stupid.

He had one bad year (not 7 as many would have us believe), took stock, admitted fault and turned it around.

Have great admiration for him.
 
Congrats to Dimmer winning coach of the year :clap :clap :clap

Now for the big one :cupgold
:gotigers :gotigers :gotigers
 
Great to see that Dimma has turned nearly all of the Darksiders around. And good on them for being humble enough to admit it.

Big task this weekend and we aren't the favourites. C'mon Tiges, let's win this one!!!
 
yandb said:
I wonder if this current Richmond coaching model will become the norm.

Hardwick team manager (great relationship builder with players)

Assistants tactical nous, game plans and player development.

this is actually kind of the model that Grant Thomas champions.
 
Mappa said:
Seems to be ample evidence that good people can actually change and improve.

I am a realist. I don't for a second think that this grand final appearance is purely down to the assistants and Balmey.

Dimma has had a very good year.

What concerns me, and what many don't understand, is that it wasn't instinctive.

He was facing the sack and the club told him things needed to change.

This year, Hardwick by his own admission has been humbled.

Say we win on Saturday. *smile* fantastic - that's what we're all here for.

I want more flags. A dynasty.

The foundation hasn't been built by the head coach. It's been built for him.

To me, that isn't ideal. If Hardwick's instincts aren't suited to today's game, what is he there for?

What we are seeing this year is a very good list finally being allowed to play.

Forgive me, but I take a very dim view on the head coach taking eight years to "learn" a thing or two.

Win or lose, I have reservations and I stand by them.

Plenty of other things to enjoy - an incredible list sprinkled with stars and quirky characters, a massive supporter base, home ground advantage.

We can win on Saturday and it'll be glorious.
 
Baron Samedi said:
you are a cheer squaddie and that gives you zero credibility. always been the case :hihi

i have been right about hardwick's faults, the torrent of media coming from the club in 2017 is ample confirmation.

a few others have been right too. alas, you have been wrong and will no doubt continue to flail around in banner paper.

just glad the club held Dimma to account before our champions retired.

can't wait for saturday.
Unfortunately we lost one champion in Deledio as collateral damage before Dimma changed. But perhaps Lids wanting to leave was the catalyst for some Dimma self-analysis that continued over summer? Who knows, but considering how little he played this year it was a great trade.
 
Baron Samedi said:
I am a realist. I don't for a second think that this grand final appearance is purely down to the assistants and Balmey.

Dimma has had a very good year.

What concerns me, and what many don't understand, is that it wasn't instinctive.

He was facing the sack and the club told him things needed to change.

This year, Hardwick by his own admission has been humbled.

Say we win on Saturday. *smile*ing fantastic - that's what we're all here for.

I want more flags. A dynasty.

The foundation hasn't been built by the head coach. It's been built for him.

To me, that isn't ideal. If Hardwick's instincts aren't suited to today's game, what is he there for?

It is actually remarkably similar to the Geelong of 2006/7 and look at them afterward.

As for Hardwicks instincts, if you look at his career at Richmond it could be argued that this year is a something of a return to the attitude of his early years. Maybe that is his instinctual approach and his 2015/16 were a case of him going against his natural instincts.
 
Baron Samedi said:
What concerns me, and what many don't understand, is that it wasn't instinctive.

He was facing the sack and the club told him things needed to change.

So you reckon that, after the year he endured last year, with his head on the block and his wife telling him he wasn't fun to be around anymore (or something like that) that he had to be told by the club to change? That he didn't come to that realisation himself?

Because that implies that he is stupid. And stupid he ain't.
 
IanG said:
this is actually kind of the model that Grant Thomas champions.

Yes. he believes that the coach should be a manager who has had experience in managing people, in hiring and firing and making difficult decisions about people. Then you surround him with tacticians and the like. Thats basically how he ran things when he was St Kilda coach and still advocates that today.
 
yandb said:
I wonder if this current Richmond coaching model will become the norm.

Hardwick team manager (great relationship builder with players)

Assistants tactical nous, game plans and player development.

That structure certainly has merit but it only works as long as the assistants are happy to let someone else live in the limelight.

Assistant coaches are able to walk out at any time if they are offered a senior coaching role and so the club is always vulnerable to losing a key figure without recourse.

I think the safer model would be to flip that around yandb and have senior coach as the one with the tactical nous.
 
toby64 said:
Yes. he believes that the coach should be a manager who has had experience in managing people, in hiring and firing and making difficult decisions about people. Then you surround him with tacticians and the like. Thats basically how he ran things when he was St Kilda coach and still advocates that today.

rubbish.

what you are describing is neil balme's job.

can't believe the apologist crap on here.

so the head coach doesn't need to drive the on-field stuff anymore?

turn it up.
 
As an aside, I reckon Richmond got its onfield leadership model this year spot on.

Big personality Rance General Manager of the backline. Big personality Jack General Manager of the forwardline. Calm and collected/on-field warrior Cotchin CEO in the midfield. Text book.
 
Baron Samedi said:
rubbish.

what you are describing is neil balme's job.

can't believe the apologist crap on here.

so the head coach doesn't need to drive the on-field stuff anymore?

turn it up.

Its Grant Thomas' view Carts old boy, not mine. And as you know but always overlook, there is more to being a coach than tactics.

Grant Thomas has actually worked at an AFL football club, something everyone around here, including you, have never done, so I reckon his opinion carries weight....at least more weight than that of someone who only months ago wanted to trade out 2 of our top liners to start the full rebuild.

And you have a go at other posters for having zero credibility! :rofl

Go Blues Tigers!
 
toby64 said:
Its Grant Thomas' view Carts old boy, not mine. And as you know but always overlook, there is more to being a coach than tactics.

Grant Thomas has actually worked at an AFL football club, something everyone around here, including you, have never done, so I reckon his opinion carries weight....at least more weight than that of someone who only months ago wanted to trade out 2 of our top liners to start the full rebuild.

And you have a go at other posters for having zero credibility! :rofl

Go Blues Tigers!

touchy eh? :hihi

so you're seriously sticking with Grant Thomas as your exhibit A? St Kilda as a shining example of benchmark administration?

:spin

he wasted one the best lists that rabble has had and is widely regarded as a pretender. you sure you go to the footy Tobes?
 
Baron Samedi said:
touchy eh? :hihi

so you're seriously sticking with Grant Thomas as your exhibit A? St Kilda as a shining example of benchmark administration?

:spin

he wasted one the best lists that rabble has had and is widely regarded as a pretender. you sure you go to the footy Tobes?

Grant Thomas exhibit A

Carter Baron Samedi exhibit B

Hmm, which way to go?