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lamb22 said:
Come on chops,
the amount of times you have lost your bowels and belittled myself and others, doesn't give any support to you see it as just a laugh! Its a laugh when it suits you.
Im not angry. Just like you I get p55ed off with the circle work!
Thought at some stage, with positive result's, you guys would be big enough to give a bloke (dima) some credit.
But after 5 years, now I can't see that happening, even if Dima becomes a premiership coach!
lamb22 said:
Sincerely, honestly and with a massive amount of respect...
You may want to re-evaluate how much you know about sport.
Listen to the way cotch and dusty talk about the hardnut. Try consider the shape our club was in when he walked through the door.
1 final ponder...
What do you think Balmy would have as response to your theory that the current success is only in spite of Dima?
Yep many a post about the likes of Buckley being a better coach etc..
Fact is he took a premiership team into despair, whilst our hero Damian has brought a team from despair to 4 finals in 5 years..
Still 2 more very important games to win...
Fact is he took a premiership team into despair, whilst our hero Damian has brought a team from despair to 4 finals in 5 years..
Still 2 more very important games to win...
Taking your points seriously Ninja, Balmey would support the coach 100%. That is his job and he does it very well.
The players in the main appear to love Dimma. Always been on record that he does culture and defence well. I am sure that those that got the raw end of the Dimma love don't love him as much as others. Goes with the territory.
And with a huge dollop of respect pretty naive questions there, which are not relevant to my main critique,
The players in the main appear to love Dimma. Always been on record that he does culture and defence well. I am sure that those that got the raw end of the Dimma love don't love him as much as others. Goes with the territory.
And with a huge dollop of respect pretty naive questions there, which are not relevant to my main critique,
ninjahaha said:
From the outside, and with a touch of not being a Hardwick fan, the end of last year/ start of this year looked like...
Balmey comes onboard
Hardwick's yes men assistants given the boot
Hardwick told his 'system' isn't up to it
Leppacellafly are brought in and all heads get together
Hardwick goes to the US on a study tour
Leppacellafly, and Hardwick?, make a conscience decision work with players strengths and empower them; a complete 180c turn from anything Hardwick has done before
Hardwick jumps onboard
Assistants are a huge upgrade on last year
Players actually look like they are enjoying playing footy - they sure didn't at many times last season!
AFL gets to winning
VFL gets to winning
Much joy and hugs all around the place, as there should be
Kudos to the club getting Balmey, 'whyever' he came onboard
Kudos to the new assistants for being very high quality, not just competent
Kudos to Hardwick for accepting, and adapting/ embracing, the change and the very different philosophy
Kudos to the supporters/ fans/ members for staying with the club. Now we get to enjoy footy once more, and lots in September.
Club is very much moving in the right direction. Hopefully we get to head to a few finals over the coming years.
Go Tigers!
K3 said:
It's this part that doesn't gel.
Beavis is the head coach. Final decision really is his. Whether the new style or gameplan was Leppacella's, McFly's, Benny Balme or Peggy alone then Beavis needs to agree buy in and agree. If it was the new coaching group coming up with it then again, Beavis would be part of that.
To think the new way was implemented, or even completely planned out without Beavis having a major say is naive. If it didn't work it would have been Beavis' head on the chopping block so now that we know it did work, he needs to take a fair bit of the credit.
As much as the moandrones like to carry on about the transformation happening while beavis was doing a disneyland tour or that he was forced to accept without any say, it just didn't happen that way.
Baloo said:
Caracella says it did. Made a point of repeating it on ABC radio before the QF.
HIS game plan (mentioned specifically) taught to 0 -3 year players. By the time other players joined the group pattern was set and they all bought in.
TBH Baloo Dimma was a dead man walking and had little negotiating room. Balmey would also be expert in soothing ruffled feathers and ensuring ALL coaches were on board, that much is true. Hardwick flexed his muscles a few times during the year when we started winning but quickly abandoned the Hunt/Morris project or the mixed messages he gave before the Adelaide game.
The list has been upgraded - Tick
The coaching has been upgraded - Tick
We are winning who cares who was right!
The coaching has been upgraded - Tick
We are winning who cares who was right!
ninjahaha said:
If you're so sensitive you should stay off altogether, not whinge about another poster disagreeing with you. If they overstep the mark with personal abuse you report it.
If you have belief in yourself and your opinion what lamb says should be water off a ducks back.
It's all just opinions and *smile* anyway.
K3 said:
Yeah it's possible but we really don't know. My view is that Dimma has been very open this year about the hole he dug himself last year and his need to change. Whether that was self-revelation or it was pointed out to him I don't know. But it seems that the need to change mentality happened first, then when gameplan proposals were being discussed and/or presented he was actively involved and bought in.
Baloo said:
Aah Baloo, your lack of self awareness is delicious. I think you are almost my favorite poster. I can rely on the Sun, moon and Baloo posts to be always there, unwavering.
I sometimes ponder how you get through life without bumping into walls all the time. Dunno maybe you do?
Anyway good times ahead Big Bear aboard the Flypacella x - press to Ultimate Finals Glory, except for a mandatory protocol stop at Hardwick Station.
Baloo said:
That's a reasonable position.
Whilst it's funny to think they changed everything whilst he was in the US (except the locks) it's more likely been a collaborative process between some pretty smart footy people (Flypacellalme), and lucky dimma.
