When will Bernie go !!

[toby64]

imagine where we'd be if we applied the blowtorch in other games instead of applying the handbrake after having a 5 goal lead. either way, it'll do wonders for the confidence of everyone going into the next few weeks.

The opposition in those games weren't witches hats like yesterday's was Ian. And we kicked straight this week for a change. Imagine if we had been as accurate with our set shots from within 30 metres in other games as we were yesterday?

To expect that just because you get out to a 5 goal lead you should win by 10 is ludicrous. It assumes there is no opposition (though there was none yesterday, hence we won by 15 goals).

Given how easily 5 goal leads are reined in these days (it happens with every club, not just Richmond- must mean every club employs the handbrake) do you honestly think Hardwick gets to a 5 goal lead and then wants the players to go defensive and sit on it, knowing full well how quickly such a lead can evaporate?

Makes no sense. The handbrake is a myth.

 

[jb03]

The opposition in those games weren't witches hats like yesterday's was Ian. And we kicked straight this week for a change. Imagine if we had been as accurate with our set shots from within 30 metres in other games as we were yesterday?

To expect that just because you get out to a 5 goal lead you should win by 10 is ludicrous. It assumes there is no opposition (though there was none yesterday, hence we won by 15 goals).

Given how easily 5 goal leads are reined in these days (it happens with every club, not just Richmond- must mean every club employs the handbrake) do you honestly think Hardwick gets to a 5 goal lead and then wants the players to go defensive and sit on it, knowing full well how quickly such a lead can evaporate?

Makes no sense. The handbrake is a myth.

I think the handbrake is a myth too. More likely the opposition change things up and we have trouble re-adjusting our own game style/plan. That was definitely the cast against Dogs and Swans. We just blew the GWS game.

 

[toby64]

I think the handbrake is a myth too. More likely the opposition change things up and we have trouble re-adjusting our own game style/plan. That was definitely the cast against Dogs and Swans. We just blew the GWS game.

I agree jb.

 

[Ian4]

The handbrake is not a myth. Its not just the 3 games we threw away after leading by 5 goals. There are plenty of games we won comfortably without blowing them away. Hawthorn and Gold coast come to mind in recent weeks.

 

[Mappa]

Which one is real?

Bigfoot
Lockness Monster
Ghosts
Vampires
Werewolves
The Handbrake.

Of Course it's The Handbrake......................I can just see opening night at Hoyts.

The true story of the handbrake..............

 

[Baron Samedi]

LOL, we win a game by 100 pts and the handbrake was never real :hihi

 

[toby64]

LOL, we win a game by 100 pts and the handbrake was never real :hihi

Its a myth Baron. Like your and others' knowledge of what goes on inside an AFL coach's box.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Its a myth Baron. Like your and others' knowledge of what goes on inside an AFL coach's box.

Unbelievable Tobes.

You trash the list for five years and now we're finally on the verge of real success you're getting desperate :hihi

Hint - the core list is the same. The coaching staff has been overhauled.

You have NFI

 

[Mappa]

LOL, we win a game by 100 pts and the handbrake was never real :hihi

Just having a laugh Baron real or unreal.

I'm just happy we won in a game that past years would see us trip up.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Just having a laugh Baron real or unreal.

I'm just happy we won in a game that past years would see us trip up.

Agreed Mappa, it's a wonderful ride.

 

[Mappa]

Agreed Mappa, it's a wonderful ride.

It's not Bull Riding but we certainly have our ups and downs.

But the ups at the minute are a beautiful thing.

 

[toby64]

The handbrake is not a myth. Its not just the 3 games we threw away after leading by 5 goals. There are plenty of games we won comfortably without blowing them away. Hawthorn and Gold coast come to mind in recent weeks.

As I said earlier, given how easily 5 goal leads are reined in these days do you honestly think Hardwick gets to a 5 goal lead and then wants the players to go defensive and sit on it, knowing full well how quickly such a lead can evaporate?

He instructs them to go defensive because he doesn't want us to win by 10 goals, because he wants a more stressful time in the box, that the opposition are just going to let us do what we want without changing things up themselves?

He has seen that many games this year, not only from his team but throughout the comp where a 5 goals lead can get overhauled in a matter of minutes, and despite this he wants us to just sit on it and take the foot off...to pull the handbrake, knowing the threat that brings?

As I said it makes no sense. Dimma may be a lot of things, but he isn't that stupid.

 

[Ice]

Dimma has never been great at games we absolutely need to win.

Why? Because you need a positive, attacking mindset. You need to attack the goal face and put the oppo to the sword early, especially at a place like Domain.

Freo, like any plucky also-ran, will put up some fight and niggle for all of five minutes, then collapse.

Well, they would against other finals bound units.

Dimma doesn't coach that way.

Tomorrow's game will be another "test" against an "outstanding" unit. We will provide the dockers more than one chance to win the game.

How refreshing it'll be if we just roll out, ride the inevitable pisweak challenge on the first quarter, then go on from there.

But Dimma isn't a good enough coach to instil that kind of confidence. Ross will have laced our path to September with pit traps and mine fields.

Maybe dimma is a good enough coach to instil that kind of confidence...

Refreshing indeed

 

[Baron Samedi]

As I said earlier, given how easily 5 goal leads are reined in these days do you honestly think Hardwick gets to a 5 goal lead and then wants the players to go defensive and sit on it, knowing full well how quickly such a lead can evaporate?

He instructs them to go defensive because he doesn't want us to win by 10 goals, because he wants a more stressful time in the box, that the opposition are just going to let us do what we want without changing things up themselves?

He has seen that many games this year, not only from his team but throughout the comp where a 5 goals lead can get overhauled in a matter of minutes, and despite this he wants us to just sit on it and take the foot off...to pull the handbrake, knowing the threat that brings?

As I said it makes no sense. Dimma may be a lot of things, but he isn't that stupid.

Pull yourself together man, Dimma himself has admitted his tendency to protect games rather than doubling-down on the lead.

Yesterday's game was unusual in the context of Dimma's tenure, everyone else knows it.

Except you.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Maybe dimma is a good enough coach to instil that kind of confidence...

Refreshing indeed

Like rain in the desert. I have nothing but praise for how we played and were coached yesterday Ice.

 

[evo]

Pull yourself together man, Dimma has admitted his tendency to protect games rather than doubling-down on the lead.

Yesterday's game was unusual in the context of Dimma's tenure, everyone else knows it.

Except you.

and Jimbob, apparently.

the Handbrake is very real. Thank goodness we have Leppcella to release it.

 

[toby64]

Pull yourself together man, Dimma has admitted his tendency to protect games rather than doubling-down on the lead.

Yesterday's game was unusual in the context of Dimma's tenure, everyone else knows it.

Except you.

Yep it was. When we were in control we kicked accurately.

I will stick with common sense, and you stick with made up stories of what goes on in a coach's box you have never set foot inside.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Yep it was. When we were in control we kicked accurately.

I will stick with common sense, and you stick with made up stories of what goes on in a coach's box you have never set foot inside.

So our unusually low ratio of big wins over the last four years comes solely down to being unable to kick straight.

Thanks for the Monday afternoon comedy capers Tobes :hihi

 

[Ian4]

As I said earlier, given how easily 5 goal leads are reined in these days do you honestly think Hardwick gets to a 5 goal lead and then wants the players to go defensive and sit on it, knowing full well how quickly such a lead can evaporate?

He instructs them to go defensive because he doesn't want us to win by 10 goals, because he wants a more stressful time in the box, that the opposition are just going to let us do what we want without changing things up themselves?

He has seen that many games this year, not only from his team but throughout the comp where a 5 goals lead can get overhauled in a matter of minutes, and despite this he wants us to just sit on it and take the foot off...to pull the handbrake, knowing the threat that brings?

As I said it makes no sense. Dimma may be a lot of things, but he isn't that stupid.

how many games have you watched this year? In the vast majority of them, we have changed our gameplan after we have reached a 5-6 goal lead. we have gone from fast movement to a slow possession style game. the "we are not a side that wins by 10 goals" statement only reinforces the belief that the handbrake is real.

So why does he do it? perhaps to conserve energy so we're cherry ripe in September? Injury management? Because we are a youthful team that finds it harder to play 4 quarters? He doesn't trust his players? maybe a combination of all of them? who knows. we can only speculate.

so why did he not apply the handbrake yesterday? Perhaps he saw what we saw at half time in regards to chasing down GWS's percentage and told the boys to put the foot on their throats.

 

[toby64]

how many games have you watched this year? In the vast majority of them, we have changed our gameplan after we have reached a 5-6 goal lead. we have gone from fast movement to a slow possession style game. the "we are not a side that wins by 10 goals" statement only reinforces the belief that the handbrake is real.

So why does he do it? perhaps to conserve energy so we're cherry ripe in September? Injury management? Because we are a youthful team that finds it harder to play 4 quarters? He doesn't trust his players? maybe a combination of all of them? who knows. we can only speculate.

so why did he not apply the handbrake yesterday? Perhaps he saw what we saw at half time in regards to chasing down GWS's percentage and told the boys to put the foot on their throats.

I have watched plenty, including plenty of neutral games where 5 goal leads have been whittled away. It must mean that every coach's box has a handbrake in it.

The change of gameplan argument assumes there is no opposition out there. An opposition out there trying to stop us doing what got us to the 5 goal lead. Changing their gameplan. They aren't just going to let us go on our merry way (except for yesterday where Freo's fight was non-existent). The teams we have given up 5 goal leads to- GWS (at their ground), the Dogs and Swans are all good sides. They don't tend to rollover and let opponents smash them.

Its as if people think that the opposition doesn't have a coach and therefore we should just be able to play the way we want to play, all the time. And that what we see on the ground is the team playing the exact way the coach wants us to play, all of the time. It doesn't work like that.

And we have a young side, with a young forward line who are inconsistent. And we play a taxing brand that I would imagine would be hard to maintain for 120 minutes.

As I said, given the incidence of 5 goal leads given up this year, why would he intentionally tell his players to go defensive early in a game and protect a lead when we are 5 goals in front, when it has been proven that such a lead isn't big enough? It doesn't make sense. Surely he isn't that stupid?

Then again, a lot of stuff on PRE doesn't make a whole lot of sense. :hihi