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When will Bernie go !!

leon said:
However, what is most amusing is that you argue that he is fully to blame for the 2014 reversion in tactics and resultant failures, but had nothing to do with the successful attacking game in '13, nor the turnaround in '14, or success in making finals again at least in '15.

Turn it up leon. I have said repeatedly that Hardwick was behind the 2013 game plan. Where have I said otherwise?

Mind you, this is the same game plan that fell to sh!t when C Judd kept getting clearances in the EF.

Also the same game plan that had me frustrated with the amount of points we were kicking due to forward congestion.

Hardwick rolled out a different plan in 2014 and there are media articles to confirm that he received player input when we hit the crisis of 3-10.

From there it was chaos football that saw us slump into the finals series without adequate rest and recovery. A far cry from you're "strong wind" nonsense. Hardwick was the main problem in 2014.

2015 represents a determined effort from coach and players to stick to an accountable style that was difficult to watch. Again, we miss the top four by losing tight games where in-game tactics were called into question. Our inability to stop NM in the third quarter was clearly a coaching failure as our players gave their all that day. I challenge anyone to say otherwise. We lost our structure for one and a half quarters where brad Scott, no genius himself, clearly had the edge over Hardwick.

And on to 2016. We didn't suddenly lose skill and talent. What we lost was belief. The players lost faith in the plan. It was obvious, particularly the last six rounds. Look at the abject performance against St Kilda if you need an example.

These are observable factors Leon, despite your warped excuse making.

Now how about being fair dinkum?
 
leon said:
And you may not be the only person who has, or is, working at a high level in education and perhaps on an ongoing basis, rather than contractual. But in a broader field.

You want to confine the discussion to some vague, waffly, narrow frame of 'affordability'. It's meaningless. You or I may be able to lose say, $100K, and remain afloat, financially viable, able to recover, not bankrupt etc. Does that mean it's financially prudent? Does no harm?

Does that mean you want to blow $1m on nothing: a write-off, it's good expenditure, investment, use of $. If it prevented the club from having enough dosh to keep DM ongoing, other top players, Balme and Caracella, plus field a decent VFL side, I know what the members would think. There's the Yazz write-off already to cover.

That's the real world issue. A significant loss of money in one area will inevitably cause damage in spending ability elsewhere. So Woolworths really could 'afford' the Masters debacle, eh? A great success!
FFS. There was a simple post that we couldn't afford it and I said we could. That's it! Anything else is what you have raised not me.
For the last and final time I have never said paying out Dimma early is a prudent financial decision, only that it is an affordable one. I have no interest in debating whether it is the correct or prudent decision or not as yet, i prefer to wait on how we go on the field in 2017.
 
Right. Bears out my post then. It seems your expertise is very, very limited FFS. The wisdom of hindsight is easy. To my mind, money is a vital resource to be used wisely, not wasted.

So we can leave at that for now.
 
Baron Samedi said:
You want Greg Miller to go out and pick us a coach then?

Fail to see what GM has to do with it? You don't address the point again. The last two coaching appointments probably haven't met your expectations I'd say at a guess. What's to say sacking DH to hire another would achieve the holy grail?
 
Hardwick will not be sacked this year.He will walk when its time .............
 
leon said:
Right. Bears out my post then. It seems your expertise is very, very limited FFS. The wisdom of hindsight is easy. To my mind, money is a vital resource to be used wisely, not wasted.

So we can leave at that for now.
Last word Larry strikes again.

The only thing it bears out to me is that you seem to want to argue about everything.
 
leon said:
Fail to see what GM has to do with it? You don't address the point again. The last two coaching appointments probably haven't met your expectations I'd say at a guess. What's to say sacking DH to hire another would achieve the holy grail?
No club that appoints a new coach knows whether he will "achieve the holy grail". If afl clubs worked on that logic they'd never replace their coaches because they,d never know if the replacement coach would "achieve the holy grail".

But I will say there's been a fair indication over the last 7 seasons that Dimma won't "acheive the holy grail".
 
Well said Tim.

The argument that we shouldn't replace Hardwick because we don't know if we'll improve is startlingly wrong-headed.
 
Sintiger said:
Last word Larry strikes again.

The only thing it bears out to me is that you seem to want to argue about everything.
Or he has to be "right" about everything.