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Welcome to the Tigers Jacob Hopper

Whateley never played footy as a kid, it was too cold and wet, and he didn't like getting dirty.

Was a jet at origami.
 
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The only thing that flawed Pinoccio was we always back door Geelong View attachment 16765
Poor Gerard is being infected with the same dumb virus as Kane. What he can’t handle is the Tigers blowing up the acceptable forms of improving a list - draft or trade/free agency one player at a time. That their pea brains can’t get their heads around the awesomeness of what we have just done is their problem not ours.
 
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I don’t understand the angst from those outside the RFC about the length of contract. What has it got to do with them? Surely that’s the club’s business.
 
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I never thought of it like that with Whately Artball.
Archaic thinker. More I think of it, the more I reckon you are onto something with this phrase.

It's actually the same as the AFL. They do the media broadcast rights brilliantly (if more money is the No1 goal), but very little else is that innovative.
i reckon it is the same with the AFL Bob. They fear progressive thought and change that is outside of their own ideas.
It's very rigid. Uptight. a bit like Whately ..
 
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I don’t understand the angst from those outside the RFC about the length of contract. What has it got to do with them? Surely that’s the club’s business.
As the Ghost said the brilliance and audaciousness of the move has completely knocked them off kilter.

That manifest itself as jealous disbelief as to how we got it done, so there must be something wrong with it. That’s why the sceptical comments about the length of contracts and how could we possibly get the trades done
 
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Whateley never played footy as a kid, it was too cold and wet, and he didn't like getting dirty.

Was a jet at origami.
The other Kids got uncomfortable when whateley got breast fed by his mum at half time.
 
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I don’t understand the angst from those outside the RFC about the length of contract. What has it got to do with them? Surely that’s the club’s business.
I understand it. Totally understand it. They know we are on the cusp of more flags.

They are afraid; very afraid.
 
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IMO the AFL actually prefer the clubs being so poorly run they have to go to the AFL cap in hand asking for help. So when a club like Richmond sorts itself out and doesn’t need the AFL to stick their noses into everything we do to give their imprimatur really annoys them
right on ghost. look why the 'stand' rule was introduced. RFC were changing the way the game was played - it was showing progress and innovation that didn't come from AFL House.
 
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I just don't get the criticism of Richmond offering 7 years to secure Hopper and/or Tarranto. Other teams do this too. If a 7 year deal is what it takes and you really want the player then that is what you offer. I doubt any of the journos have any consistent points of view they just write what they reckon will sell papers, but it would be nice if they had a go at other clubs who offer long contracts to secure players . . . or maybe it would just be better if they didn't constantly write crap like this.

Can't remember the response when Collingwood signed that long deal for Grundy. The reality of that deal was that, if Collingwood wanted to keep Grundy, that's what they had to pay. With Grundy injured it looks bad, but that is hindsight. Imagine he went elsewhere and dominated, Collingwood would be copping more than they are now.

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I just don't get the criticism of Richmond offering 7 years to secure Hopper and/or Tarranto. Other teams do this too. If a 7 year deal is what it takes and you really want the player then that is what you offer. I doubt any of the journos have any consistent points of view they just write what they reckon will sell papers, but it would be nice if they had a go at other clubs who offer long contracts to secure players . . . or maybe it would just be better if they didn't constantly write crap like this.

Can't remember the response when Collingwood signed that long deal for Grundy. The reality of that deal was that, if Collingwood wanted to keep Grundy, that's what they had to pay. With Grundy injured it looks bad, but that is hindsight. Imagine he went elsewhere and dominated, Collingwood would be copping more than they are now.

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Equally important is it thins the annual wage , the lads may have been offered 850 x 5 at ess for example . The other factor is in 3y we won’t be carrying 2.5 of dusty and lynch money
 
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I don’t understand the angst from those outside the RFC about the length of contract. What has it got to do with them? Surely that’s the club’s business.

The media didn't have a problem when the Roos threw everything but the kitchen sink trying to get Dusty. They offered almost 1. 6 million a year..............hypocrites.


"The Kangaroos went hard in their bid to lure the powerful midfielder with a mammoth seven-year deal reportedly worth about $11 million."

 
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How good is Balme tho stepped aside to take a lesser role so we wouldn't loose them can't praise him enough Balme transformed us completely just as important as Peggy ,Gale and Dimma.
 
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I just don't get the criticism of Richmond offering 7 years to secure Hopper and/or Tarranto. Other teams do this too. If a 7 year deal is what it takes and you really want the player then that is what you offer. I doubt any of the journos have any consistent points of view they just write what they reckon will sell papers, but it would be nice if they had a go at other clubs who offer long contracts to secure players . . . or maybe it would just be better if they didn't constantly write crap like this.

Can't remember the response when Collingwood signed that long deal for Grundy. The reality of that deal was that, if Collingwood wanted to keep Grundy, that's what they had to pay. With Grundy injured it looks bad, but that is hindsight. Imagine he went elsewhere and dominated, Collingwood would be copping more than they are now.

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There was criticism both from Pies supporters and sections of the media. The difference between the 2 situations, and this in no way justifies the current carry on, is that Grundy was already a Pie, whereas Hopper and Taranto are leaving their club for another one that is offering them more money and a longer deal. Makes total sense for the players to do it, and really it is a matter for the clubs and players involved. Everyone else should stfu.
 
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On contract length, I guess a way of viewing it is to ask "would we think Hopper / Taranto would play to 32?"
Regardless of which team they play for, probably they do.
Definitely good enough.
And we are seeing longer careers thanks to better recovery and sports science.
So the risk is injury, age, hunger or reputation. Low probability there.

So we could give them 3 contracts in 7 years. Or one.
Same end result
 
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I just don't get the criticism of Richmond offering 7 years to secure Hopper and/or Tarranto. Other teams do this too.
Dylan Shiel was a 6 year deal.

DYLAN SHIEL!

And the Bombers gave up pick 9 plus a 2019 first rounder (when they finished eighth, so this was also pick 9 before F/S etc.). The Bombers got back the GWS 2019 second round pick in the late 30s.

FOR DYLAN SHIEL!
 
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I have no issue with the 7 year deals for both Taranto & Hopper

They are both quality 250+ game players and will play to 32 / 33 years of age

Patrick Cripps is signed up until 33 and nobody blinked
Cotchin will play as a 33 year old in 2023
Danger will play as a 33 year old
Kennedy is 34 years old in 2022

Very rare these days for quality players to retire or become below standard before 31/32 these days and these boys are quality
Only problem would be career ending injury like Lambert


Lets not forget if the Salary Cap goes up 20%-25% as predicted in the next 3-4 years combined with the Lynch / Dusty deals ending this could become a master stroke all these fools will be talking about saying the tigers read the landscape beautifully

Both players were rated top end elite talent before their draft and both have lived upto predictions and are just about to enter their prime years


Im really excited
 
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