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For the experts on here - what is the acceleration and pace of these two guys. Always thought the knock on GWS was they were too 'one paced' and now we have 2 of them. We may need bolton as 100% mid next yr to provide that burst. But is speed a concern at all for these two fellas?

Good question.
 
Considering our pressing need at the time for a developing forward, taking Jacob Van Rooyen at pick 17 instead of Brown would have made more sense.
Let’s hope Jacob Bauer has JVR covered. And Cumberland coming from absolutely nowhere to fill a very important role has certainly helped our cause but not sure by design.

Whilst I do believe you’re correct that the club had at least one of the GWS players in their sights, we probably got a little lucky that Sonsie was still available and has come on so quickly.
So I still maintain that the pursuit of 2x HBFs and a HFF has me baffled when we needed pure mids and a key forward at the time
I was huge on JVR and wanted him at the Brown pick and when we passed was disappointed, He had some knocks on him but think he will still be a player.

Lets see what eventuates
 
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Gee this Hopper can really play

Tall, classy mover, nice kick, very tough.
 
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At the time we were recruiting Yarran, I were told by staff at an Italian Cafe where i always bought lunch, (they had signed Chris Judd boots framed and all kinds of Carlton memorabilia on their walls and had close links with the club), that Richmond were welcome to him as it was well known that Yarran had massive gambling debts and drug issues at Carlton.
If I can get that info walking into a cafe how much due diligence did we really do back then?, we got sucked in as Yarran played his best footy against the Tige's, (and his best footy was scintillating).

Yarran was released from a 3 year jail term in April this year.

Ex-AFL star Chris Yarran released from prison three years after being jailed for meth-fuelled rampage

Shannon HamptonThe West Australian
Wed, 6 April 2022 4:00AM
With all due respect, there's a lot of horse *smile* stories out there about AFL players.
Bomber Thompson sleeping with someone's wife, Hird fleeing to Paris yo be a dad over there, etc. Rumours get spread about lots of people. There's someone who's related to my best friend, left a club because he'd "cheated with a club official". That was particularly hurtful as he'd been with his now wife since the early days of high school and she had been told of the rumour getting a coffee. She felt humiliated.
What happened in reality was they felt disrespected by being excluded from a leadership group, after the club praising him for years about his leadership.
The point? Rumours and reality are rarely on the same field, nor playing the same sport, let along being in the same ball park.
If clubs listened to rumours from coffee shops to decide on who to recruit, they'd never recruit anyone.
 
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For the experts on here - what is the acceleration and pace of these two guys. Always thought the knock on GWS was they were too 'one paced' and now we have 2 of them. We may need bolton as 100% mid next yr to provide that burst. But is speed a concern at all for these two fellas?
Just my opinion.
Taranto is an aerobic beast. In soccer parlance he is box to box. Not sure on how fast he is but from what I’ve seen he’s fast enough.
Hopper looks powerful over 5-10m. He does get to plenty of contests so must have solid endurance.
Regardless if they aren’t the fastest mids going, I wouldn’t be concerned
 
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Had two knee surgeries. One in the off season and another in-season after round 1.
Two knee surgeries??? Blokes obviously a gimp, Gee Whizz should be paying us to take him off their hands.
 
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned but our favourite journo Tom Browne reported on TripleM that Dusty was part of the pitch to Hopper.
 
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Not sure if it’s been mentioned but our favourite journo Tom Browne reported on TripleM that Dusty was part of the pitch to Hopper.
Can expect Browne to come out and say that he said all along that Dusty wasn't going anywhere.
 
With all due respect, there's a lot of horse *smile* stories out there about AFL players.
Bomber Thompson sleeping with someone's wife, Hird fleeing to Paris yo be a dad over there, etc. Rumours get spread about lots of people. There's someone who's related to my best friend, left a club because he'd "cheated with a club official". That was particularly hurtful as he'd been with his now wife since the early days of high school and she had been told of the rumour getting a coffee. She felt humiliated.
What happened in reality was they felt disrespected by being excluded from a leadership group, after the club praising him for years about his leadership.
The point? Rumours and reality are rarely on the same field, nor playing the same sport, let along being in the same ball park.
If clubs listened to rumours from coffee shops to decide on who to recruit, they'd never recruit anyone.
It’s the clubs job to decipher the rubbish from truth if they are investing millions.

It’s a better run place now but there’s nothing wrong with saying the club was lazy with its research on Yarran.

Unmitigated failure.
 
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With all due respect, there's a lot of horse *smile* stories out there about AFL players.
Bomber Thompson sleeping with someone's wife, Hird fleeing to Paris yo be a dad over there, etc. Rumours get spread about lots of people. There's someone who's related to my best friend, left a club because he'd "cheated with a club official". That was particularly hurtful as he'd been with his now wife since the early days of high school and she had been told of the rumour getting a coffee. She felt humiliated.
What happened in reality was they felt disrespected by being excluded from a leadership group, after the club praising him for years about his leadership.
The point? Rumours and reality are rarely on the same field, nor playing the same sport, let along being in the same ball park.
If clubs listened to rumours from coffee shops to decide on who to recruit, they'd never recruit anyone.
With all due respect it was fact beyond my coffee shop experience and as I mentioned they had close links with Carlton footy club, not sure why you are bringing other unrelated stories into the Yarran argument.
Everything that has played out since just verified it.
 
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Yaz was a flop. An unmitigated disaster. But at the time I kind of liked it.
 
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Considering our pressing need at the time for a developing forward, taking Jacob Van Rooyen at pick 17 instead of Brown would have made more sense.
Let’s hope Jacob Bauer has JVR covered. And Cumberland coming from absolutely nowhere to fill a very important role has certainly helped our cause but not sure by design.

Whilst I do believe you’re correct that the club had at least one of the GWS players in their sights, we probably got a little lucky that Sonsie was still available and has come on so quickly.
So I still maintain that the pursuit of 2x HBFs and a HFF has me baffled when we needed pure mids and a key forward at the time

I thought the emphasis was on disposal and speed and that our recruiters were focused on building a team which would better cope with the stand rule.

Taranto was also on the cards even then.