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Welcome to the Tigers - Daniel Rioli

That would depend on the 1st rounder i would say but at a guess a top 5-10 would have to be $1 mil
anything below top 5 wouldnt get traded and 10-20 would be $500k range you would think

* Oops i thought you meant when salary cap trading for picks come in
My Bad

Nope you were correct - thanks you answered my question - I just wasn’t clear in how I asked it.

Trading picks for salary cap relief is sort of happening now I guess except you just need to have a player involved as well. (Eg the GC Jack Bowes to Geelong)
 
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No. You never pay the entire salary. Bonuses etc, completely outside your control.
Pay for a couple of years Max. In three years time, our swathe of draftees will come out of contract. We need cash to keep them.
Why pay any of his salary , they want him , they pay him he us contracted, they want him the pay the pick we want he IS contracted
 
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Why pay any of his salary , they want him , they pay him he us contracted, they want him the pay the pick we want he IS contracted
We pay some of his salary if it gets us better picks. Same with Bolton and Baker.

What else are we going to do with the money?
 
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Why pay any of his salary , they want him , they pay him he us contracted, they want him the pay the pick we want he IS contracted
That's been answered above. Basically it it means we pay 2 years but we get a much higher pick, then it's got merit.
Would you rather pay Thomson Dow $400k for another year (and face the ramifications of what that does to other players expectations) or pay Rioli and upgrade from Pick 20 to 13.
 
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We pay some of his salary if it gets us better picks. Same with Bolton and Baker.

What else are we going to do with the money?
Considering that Baker is out of contract I wouldn’t be agreeing to pay any of his salary. That’s between him and whoever he decides to play for.
 
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Considering that Baker is out of contract I wouldn’t be agreeing to pay any of his salary. That’s between him and whoever he decides to play for.
i dont believe we can.
you can only pay guys to play elsewhere when they are leaving mid-contract.
 
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Agree.

If we get rid of any more senior players we may as well open a kindergarten.
Keep telling people we have enough senior players for next year even with the exodus going on.
Our problem is too many are in real decline and a few are ordinary.

Nankervis, Prestia, McIntosh, Broad, Lynch and Vlastuin are the vets. A good list manager would have had plans in place for replacing them at least three years ago.
Short, Balta, Taranto, Hopper All have 100 games each.
All ten like em or not are likely to be starting players next year. Apart from a few i think they are a decent starting point.

In anticipation that McIntosh Prestia and Lynch may all be gone at the end of next year we probably should be looking at a few experienced types in free agency or trades.
Experience wont affect us that greatly in 2025 its beyond we need to worry about.

Personally i like the idea of keeping Tom Lynch around the club even when he retires.
If Tom wants to try for another flag next year and we can get some decent compensation then we may as well do it.
We won't get a thing for him at the end of next year when he is out of contract or retired. Flip side is and its a long shot his injuries go away and we get two or three seasons out of him. Here's hoping

This is what i think will happen. Tom will retire with a bottom 4 finish with us, or a flag/finals with another team next year if he goes.
If injuries continue he may not even see a full year out. We do this only if Tom asks for it.

We also have a group of players while most lack a lot of games playing at the level, they are what you would call mature types aged 23 thru 26.
Generally speaking they are battlers and role players and depth players.

Miller, Ross, MRJ, HRS, Kossie, Dow, Mansell, Ryan, Cumberland, Colina, Lefau, OHB, Blight, Coulthard and Young.
This is where the real problem lies where is the genuine quality in that lot?

Its here in this age group i hope we look for upgrades i dont really believe it should be hard to do. They all in one way or another have some serious question marks about them.
Hoping like mad three or four really improve to become good consistent AFL players but fair dinkum the clock is really ticking.

We also hope a few of the 22 and unders can become good consistent players for us or even get lucky and find a few diamonds.
 
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I too am more disappointed in Dan than I’ve been in any Tiger leaving since Ottens.
3 flags great & forever grateful but this decision just plain sucks.
 
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Sometimes the planets align. Would we rather keep rising 28yo Daniel "The Prince" Rioli or bring in two 18yos?

Look at the pressure of the looming Tasmania entry. The draft will be *smile* from 2027 on. We are spoony WITH Rioli. And will be IMO for some time.

So we bite the bullet. By accident, if you will. We trade Daniel for two 18yos. For a Tasmania resistant future.

It could be that RFC is on the nose with its players. And they are leaving because we've hurt their feelings. (We used to be big on feelings.) It could be that the departing players are soft or greedy and are leaving for immoral reasons. Or it could be that RFC is strategically trading into three drafts with a list that is already spoony. I don't care.

I like this bold play, albeit not really bold but just an accident. I like the strategy. And FWIW I think it is a strategy and have for some time.

And that brings us to a position we all agree on - Gawd give Toce strength.
 
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Cal Twomey saying GC has offered Rioli a 5 year deal. No further details on what the trade might look like other than speculation.
 
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I too am more disappointed in Dan than I’ve been in any Tiger leaving since Ottens.
3 flags great & forever grateful but this decision just plain sucks.
Ottens didn't want to leave.
Ottens wanted 450-460
Wallace and Co wouldn't budget on 400k
And he left.
And we went got Simmonds on 380k.

Ottens loved playing with Richo and Co.
Ottens didn't Poole, Wilson or Deledio us
 
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Cal Twomey saying GC has offered Rioli a 5 year deal. No further details on what the trade might look like other than speculation.
I think he also reported that Richmond have rejected pick 6 for him. We hold the whip hand and should demand a lot more - maybe 6 and 20?
 
Ottens didn't want to leave.
Ottens wanted 450-460
Wallace and Co wouldn't budget on 400k
And he left.
And we went got Simmonds on 380k.

Ottens loved playing with Richo and Co.
Ottens didn't Poole, Wilson or Deledio us
Didn't he say he wanted to get out of the Melb fishbowl and preferred a quieter place like Geelong?
 
Ottens didn't want to leave.
Ottens wanted 450-460
Wallace and Co wouldn't budget on 400k
And he left.
And we went got Simmonds on 380k.

Ottens loved playing with Richo and Co.
Ottens didn't Poole, Wilson or Deledio us
Don't know about Poole and why he left but you are being harsh on the other two.

Wilson was from WA and went home and played for the Eagles. Deledio played 12 years and 240+ games so he was pretty loyal for a long period of time.
 
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Don't know about Poole and why he left but you are being harsh on the other two.

Wilson was from WA and went home and played for the Eagles. Deledio played 12 years and 240+ games so he was pretty loyal for a long period of time.

Wilson didn’t want to leave. KB didn’t rate him.
 
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