spook said:He finished 7th in the VFL B&F, ahead of Lloyd and Baker. Regular VFL watchers know why he was retained.
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spook said:He finished 7th in the VFL B&F, ahead of Lloyd and Baker. Regular VFL watchers know why he was retained.
spook said:He finished 7th in the VFL B&F, ahead of Lloyd and Baker. Regular VFL watchers know why he was retained.
spook said:He finished 7th in the VFL B&F, ahead of Lloyd and Baker. Regular VFL watchers know why he was retained.
Potentially wing, tigerman, but I think half-back is his best spot. I won't get much support for this other than from Gyps, but if he hadn't had a disrupted pre-season Menadue would have had first shot at the running back role that ended up going to Short. He came into the season underdone, and it is very hard to catch up. He would burn for a half then fade away, especially early in the year. He still ended up in the best six 8 times in 14 games, of a team that finished top.tigerman said:What's his best position spook? With a few more kg's could he play midfield?
spook said:Potentially wing, tigerman, but I think half-back is his best spot. I won't get much support for this other than from Gyps, but if he hadn't had a disrupted pre-season Menadue would have had first shot at the running back role that ended up going to Short. He came into the season underdone, and it is very hard to catch up. He would burn for a half then fade away, especially early in the year. He still ended up in the best six 8 times in 14 games, of a team that finished top.
He was quite consistent at VFL level. After April 28, when he was named our best player with 18 disposals against Werribee, only once did he drop under 20 touches, with 16 in the finals loss to Williamstown. His other games were 22, 20, 23, 26, 21, 25, 25, 26. And he's a line-breaker, he has the pace and the step to make 100-metre plays.
I like him better than Short. He's a lot quicker, much better overhead (that side of his game really came on this year), and better in the contest. He averaged 12 disposals in the AFL this year, but that was playing half-forward/wing. Short got 20 a game but 14 of those were put on a platter for him.
A good pre-season, a few more kgs, and I see him along with Bolton and Balta as the ones who can really improve us internally.
Ridley said:You've obviously seen a lot more of him than I have Spook so appreciate your point of view. But I really don't like what I've seen of him at AFL level. A player like him should be a lot further advanced than he is after 4 years in the system. At AFL level he does not seem to relish the contest. He didn't have great impact in any of his games form what I recall this year and he was outright horrible against the Saints and Cats late in the season. He had 10 touches against the Saints in a game where the opposition was uncompetitive; if you can't fill your boots in a game like that when can you? And against Geelong he was a complete liability; everything he touched turned to sh!t and he was like an extra player for Geelong when he was on the ground.
Reckon he is very lucky to be still on the list. Good luck to him. Let's hope he justifies the faith that the club has shown in him.
spook said:Potentially wing, tigerman, but I think half-back is his best spot. I won't get much support for this other than from Gyps, but if he hadn't had a disrupted pre-season Menadue would have had first shot at the running back role that ended up going to Short. He came into the season underdone, and it is very hard to catch up. He would burn for a half then fade away, especially early in the year. He still ended up in the best six 8 times in 14 games, of a team that finished top.
He was quite consistent at VFL level. After April 28, when he was named our best player with 18 disposals against Werribee, only once did he drop under 20 touches, with 16 in the finals loss to Williamstown. His other games were 22, 20, 23, 26, 21, 25, 25, 26. And he's a line-breaker, he has the pace and the step to make 100-metre plays.
I like him better than Short. He's a lot quicker, much better overhead (that side of his game really came on this year), and better in the contest. He averaged 12 disposals in the AFL this year, but that was playing half-forward/wing. Short got 20 a game but 14 of those were put on a platter for him.
A good pre-season, a few more kgs, and I see him along with Bolton and Balta as the ones who can really improve us internally.
spook said:Potentially wing, tigerman, but I think half-back is his best spot. I won't get much support for this other than from Gyps, but if he hadn't had a disrupted pre-season Menadue would have had first shot at the running back role that ended up going to Short. He came into the season underdone, and it is very hard to catch up. He would burn for a half then fade away, especially early in the year. He still ended up in the best six 8 times in 14 games, of a team that finished top.
He was quite consistent at VFL level. After April 28, when he was named our best player with 18 disposals against Werribee, only once did he drop under 20 touches, with 16 in the finals loss to Williamstown. His other games were 22, 20, 23, 26, 21, 25, 25, 26. And he's a line-breaker, he has the pace and the step to make 100-metre plays.
I like him better than Short. He's a lot quicker, much better overhead (that side of his game really came on this year), and better in the contest. He averaged 12 disposals in the AFL this year, but that was playing half-forward/wing. Short got 20 a game but 14 of those were put on a platter for him.
A good pre-season, a few more kgs, and I see him along with Bolton and Balta as the ones who can really improve us internally.
Would never consider a bloke like Grigga quick or explosive, but he had a massive engine in his prime. Would just roam up n down a wing creating overlap n a loose target for the team. KMac is probably fairly similar. New rules with starting positions at centre bounces might just bring the running wing man back into vogue, there's been some absolute rippers over the years. Grigga's obviously fading so there's a glaring vacancy coming up soon. Mena's bloody quick, he just needs a couple of steps to get the lacka band wound up to full tension. Should be bloody perfect, just needs to pull the finger out next year n give Grigga a nudge out of the way.Dont Argue said:But until Menedue learns to use his pace, he should not be referred to as quick.
tigerlove said:Yep there's no argument about him at VFL level, he has been excellent. Problem has been his transitioning into AFL.
Tigers of Old said:As we have seen with Corey Ellis, it's a massive step up. Not all players are capable at AFL level.
I've seen plenty of both of those guys at VFL level & they look like guns, at VFL level.
AFL? Nup.
spook said:Great to hear, Tooheys. I don't think it was about pennies, other than those he'd spent by half time by being underdone last year.