Watching the last quarter of Syd V PA and was interesting to note umpire 22 (Nathan Williamson) decided that umpire 8 (whoever he is) couldnt be the only umpire for the weekend to decide who wins a game. Gave 2 absolute ordinary decisions to gift PA 2 goals (similar to no 8) in last ten minutes.
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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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Quite a few games being decided by dubious umpiring decisions this year. If they would only umpire like they do in finals and put the whistle away (for both teams)!
I think every round has had at least one game decided by controversial umpiring.
The whole system needs an overhaul.
From the rules, to the selection of umpires, to the training, to the relationships with the players, even the fans. They don't need numbers or be identifiable.
The respect towards umpires has completely evaporated. It doesn't need to be like this.
When every rule can be graded right OR wrong, then they are on a hiding to nothing.
But the AFL won't ever admit there's an issue. And Dan Richardson is not the bloke to fix it.
Go back to two umpires. Talent spread too thinly. (like the AFL teams for that matter)
Too many on the field desperately trying to justify their existence.
Too many on the field desperately trying to justify their existence.
Umpiring was dreadful last night, especially that deplorable decision in the last for high contact which gifted the dogs a goal.
I'm sort of used to it now, which is an indictment on the AFL.
Four field umpires is too many - they get in the way.
I'm sort of used to it now, which is an indictment on the AFL.
Four field umpires is too many - they get in the way.
Doggos milked those frees & the umps were trigger happy to give it to them. It influence the outcome I have no doubt.
See Malthouse has written an article in the HUN today saying what 99.9% of people have been saying about the Conigilo affair and then finally has a crack at the stand rule saying it so wrong. Great article in fact and hopefully it creates a groundswell to ditch the Geecheat rule.
Yep, it's really easy. Everyone should just STFU n do as their told, never ever have any objective thought or opinions to those in charge because they're guaranteed a size 10 steel toed jack boot up the clacker just for thinking out loud. So bloody sad that it's come down to that.If only there was some way to avoid these penalties for dissent.
Reckon old mate MnM had a decent comment on it in today's Hun.
Interesting that the AFLHQ's toady in charge of umpiring was dribbling on about it being an accumulation of whinging that caused the free for dissent. So the maggot was to insipid to call out the player at any stage during the game n suggest he pull his annoying head in or mention to the club staff that Cogs was being a petulant snot n they should get him to shut up.
So the bulldogs got 4 goals from what you could say were questionable frees.
1. The Baker HTB - cannot see the difference between that one and about 6 Carlton ones last week where the player with the ball effectively surrenders to the tackler. It appeared identical to the one Jack didn't get against Frampton. The umps do love penalising Baker, I feel it is because they resent and are jealous of a fellow short arse that plays at the top level with such courage.
2. The Vlas high contact - the angle isn't great but that sort of incidental contact is ignored almost all game.
3. The Naughton free - there were 2 hands in the back but Naughton accentuated the contact. This should never have happened though because the kick was delivered by JUH who received a free that even the biased commentators had no explanation for.
4. The 50 against Graham. This sort of "creeping" over the mark happens all game, although it appeared to me Graham simply ran to the spot. He was pointing just like half the players do nowadays. You hear umpires tell players to come back 1m, 2m constantly, often telling them multiple times. Not Graham.
All resulted in goals.
There was one that the umps missed for the Bulldogs, Hannan did get tackled below the knees and should have got a free in the square.
I'm trying to recall the last dubious free that we received that resulted in a goal.
1. The Baker HTB - cannot see the difference between that one and about 6 Carlton ones last week where the player with the ball effectively surrenders to the tackler. It appeared identical to the one Jack didn't get against Frampton. The umps do love penalising Baker, I feel it is because they resent and are jealous of a fellow short arse that plays at the top level with such courage.
2. The Vlas high contact - the angle isn't great but that sort of incidental contact is ignored almost all game.
3. The Naughton free - there were 2 hands in the back but Naughton accentuated the contact. This should never have happened though because the kick was delivered by JUH who received a free that even the biased commentators had no explanation for.
4. The 50 against Graham. This sort of "creeping" over the mark happens all game, although it appeared to me Graham simply ran to the spot. He was pointing just like half the players do nowadays. You hear umpires tell players to come back 1m, 2m constantly, often telling them multiple times. Not Graham.
All resulted in goals.
There was one that the umps missed for the Bulldogs, Hannan did get tackled below the knees and should have got a free in the square.
I'm trying to recall the last dubious free that we received that resulted in a goal.
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Cricket being a total stop start game with the only " physical " aspect being the odd bouncer from a crusty fast bowler is totally irrelevant to footy.
Footy n Rugby would be a more like for like comparison and the game history n tradition of well over 100 years whereby the no discussion with the umpire or ref is drilled into the kids from the very start of their junior years is vastly different to the way the junior footy players have been brought through.
I'm sure that another reason why we f* up is that our players are in 2 minds when tackling because they know these precious a-holes will call out ridiculous frees. I see the frustration in Vloss' face many times.
It isn't so much that they need to put the whistle away, which is ridiculous as then you allow some infringements to be penalised and others not penalised - how do you decide which get penalised?
What needs to happen is consistency. 20 times a game a player runs to the mark and then the umpire adjusts where they stand, last night we got a 50m penalty for doing just that. They could have dished out another 10 50m penalties in the game for exactly the same action, but they didn't. Players get taken high in marking contests, and it is a complete lottery as to whether there is a free paid. Forwards get held, forwards hold their opponent, flip a coin to work out who gets a free and another to decide if a free is awarded at all.
The thing is that the rules are so inconsistently applied that the players push the boundaries. The more grey area they leave in the adjudication of the game, the more the players will push the boundaries. When they push the boundaries sometimes they get away with it and sometimes they don't, so they just keep doing it.
The result: pushing in the back is rife. Holding a player not in possession of the ball is simply allowed now. Throws are more common than a 1950s VFA game.
It is a massive mess.
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How about Naughton throwing it out in the 1st qtr
Footscary goal.
Libba holding the ball in on the half forward flank.
The decision lynch was holding when Jones had him high before.
Number 17 holding lynch in the 2nd qtr.
It goes on in every game.
The opposition get one or 2 free kicks that seem to break us.
We lost yesterday because lynch got injured.
Graham is the soft tissue King.
Nakas is finished
And we are can't kick and no-one can take a reliving mark down the Line.
Yup...it's unpretty much a sheet game now...
I use to think it was one of the best and also...honest...sports in the world...Honest as in 'incorruptible'...
Players played with skill, integrity, toughness, daring, passion...cheating was abhorred...it was not like the real world...sport was pure...
Boy/Girl how times have changed...sadly AFL has been corrupted...and it has taken some time to do it, because their is no accountability...nix, nadda, zilch...
Just how Gilligan likes things, a nice shade of beige where everything is subject to negotiation and interpretation and HQ is always right.
Had to laugh when Jones was paid the free against Lynch in the last. commentator said the fact that Lynch didn’t react or question the free meant he obviously knew it was there and he was in the wrong. Message from Richardson obviously sinking in. If players don’t question frees how dare the crowd!
He’s also only focused on the batsmen. Plenty said to the ump nearly every over from the bowler…
agree, but, on 4. The stand rule is a travesty and all over the shop, we all know that. But putting that aside, JG has been cribbing the mark all season. Quite a few times I've thought he's really pushing it, and on this one he extra-pushed it. And also calling a player back a couple of metres is different to if they keep walking past the mark when you've told them where it is. He didn't run to the spot, he ran over it.
It's a tough one because we can't hear the ump. Graham made it clear where he "thought" the mark was and that that was where he was going. We can't hear if the ump told him no.
