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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

What is the name of the grub who made the decision to overturn the goal? The grub should own this, just like a field umpire. What is his name?

Why is there no call to sack the cheat?
 
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Apparently you don't need over the top camera angles because it all three angles show the ball over the goalpost then it must be hitting the goalpost.

I'm like nah, give me that Birdseye angle so I can be sure thanks.
 
Was in a Tigers area last night on the fence where most of the pre-game media was. Brad Scott walked around the boundary with a bunch of suits, looked nervous when he was in front of us. Someone couldn't resist and yelled out 'fix the umps dikhead'. I liked it.
 
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When this technology was introduced I wondered what for? If this is going to be used why have goal umpires in the first place? Score review it after every score(the game should last four hours and advertisers will be pleased).The current score review cost us the game.The goal umpire was clearly in the best position no doubt.
For discussion here I put this scenario to Pre members. If it is good enough to have a score review,what about an instance when a field umpire makes a decision which was clearly incorrect causing a team to win a game by default.Should a decision review be introduced?
 
It’s become apparent to me we need a review system to fix the howlers of the review system.
 
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At any rate we can all agree it was a *smile* kick. Should never have been an iota of doubt.
 
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We had goal umpires making stand alone decisions for over 100 years, and sure some bad decisions were made, but not that many really, and some went your way and others didn't big deal.
But the system we have now, it is just absolutely farcical. It destroys a goal umpires confidence, because they are always being second guessed. I wouldn't be a goal umpire for quids.
 
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Prior to going off Prestia was continually being held and scragged. It was blatant. They weren’t even making a token attempt to hide it.
We should have held Neale - really should have been a lot more physical attention on him, he was unbelievable
 
We had goal umpires making stand alone decisions for over 100 years, and sure some bad decisions were made, but not that many really, and some went your way and others didn't big deal.
But the system we have now, it is just absolutely farcical. It destroys a goal umpires confidence, because they are always being second guessed. I wouldn't be a goal umpire for quids.
I use to goal umpire back in the day, and it's not that hard of a job. The most important thing is to get behind the flight of the ball. The hardest call was when a player on the run kicks it hard from about 20 out and it slews towards the goal post. You don't have time to get behind it, and you hope like hell you make the right call. Usually the field ump is in a better position in these situations and will give you a tip by putting one or two hands to their face to call "all clear".

I've really noticed a deterioration of goal umpiring recently, particularly getting behind the flight of the ball. Back in the day, you used to see the goal umps sprint like hell to get behind the flight of the ball and end up on the other side of the point post. I get that the boundary ump assists when the ball is near the point post, but I've noticed goal umps recently take a few steps and crane their neck to see where the ball went, rather than getting behind the flight. P!sses me off no end.

Anyway, the goal ump was in A1 position with Lynch's attempt...he was directly behind the flight of the ball. No one was in a better position than him. He looked up the goal post and thought it was a goal. Yet in 10 seconds the ARC overruled him with inconclusive vision. The vision showed the ball over the post, but crucially it didn't show where the ball was in relation to the goal line.

Of course the CCP, I mean the AFL said it was correct...they are certainly not in the habit of admitting a mistake and losing face.

Complete amateur hour.
 
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This video on twitter would have be taken from a better position than any ARC camera. Still think that a goal umpire looking straight up next to the post would be in the best position to see if it went over the post.

Kicking from no more than 10-12 metres out, the ball was still going up as it crossed the line inside the post. It’s only much further on that it reaches the elevation to appear that it is above the post. If he'd kicked it that high from that distance, it would have plopped down within the front rows, not curled so far into the second tier.
 
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I use to goal umpire back in the day, and it's not that hard of a job. The most important thing is to get behind the flight of the ball. The hardest call was when a player on the run kicks it hard from about 20 out and it slews towards the goal post. You don't have time to get behind it, and you hope like hell you make the right call. Usually the field ump is in a better position in these situations and will give you a tip by putting one or two hands to their face to call "all clear".

I've really noticed a deterioration of goal umpiring recently, particularly getting behind the flight of the ball. Back in the day, you used to see the goal umps sprint like hell to get behind the flight of the ball and end up on the other side of the point post. I get that the boundary ump assists when the ball is near the point post, but I've noticed goal umps recently take a few steps and crane their neck to see where the ball went, rather than getting behind the flight. P!sses me off no end.

Anyway, the goal ump was in A1 position with Lynch's attempt...he was directly behind the flight of the ball. No one was in a better position than him. He looked up the goal post and thought it was a goal. Yet in 10 seconds the ARC overruled him with inconclusive vision. The vision showed the ball over the post, but crucially it didn't show where the ball was in relation to the goal line.

Of course the CCP, I mean the AFL said it was correct...they are certainly not in the habit of admitting a mistake and losing face.

Complete amateur hour.
Yeah, absolutely! Umpires at the ground working together to make correct decisions, not some isolated work experience kid in front of a screen!! There was talk back in the 70's of having two goal umpires. Based on your experience, do you think that would work?
 
Yeah, absolutely! Umpires at the ground working together to make correct decisions, not some isolated work experience kid in front of a screen!! There was talk back in the 70's of having two goal umpires. Based on your experience, do you think that would work?
Has the increase in the number of field umpires improved the standard?

I don't know about 2 goal umpires, they would probably get in each others way, but I would much prefer 2 goal umpires to the current ARC. Maybe worth a trial during pre-season?

If there's an ump behind each post (2 boundary and 2 goal umps) when someone is kicking for goal (or at least each goal ump behind a goal post in general play), surely that would reduce errors?
 
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