Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

[artball]

this incident should put the antiquated ARC system in the spotlight and that's a good thing

it's not only the RFC it's screwed, but has and will screw other clubs

the AFL have taken the adjudication of the game to stupid lengths and in this case with crap technology

 

[jb03]

Yeh, how is it possible we still have no answer to these questions?

Our own resident expert TBR also says there is other footage. But again, completely unsubstantiated.

They are not difficult questions, it's quite simple for the AFL to eliminate confusion in one simple press conference. The fact they don't only leads to questions about the whole proccess.

There is never other footage. The AFL just say that to cover up ineptitude.

 

[Teckor]

This video on twitter would have be taken from a better position than any ARC camera. Still think that a goal umpire looking straight up next to the post would be in the best position to see if it went over the post.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565523446355746817

 

[bigwow]

Yeah it was deja vue all over again, Dunstall said 'maybe they have footage we don't see?' and Montanga responded 'I don't think so, and why would they do that?'

Montanga could get the chop after his performance, was scathing, incredulous at the ARC effort.

I struggle to see how he got a job in the media in the first place. *smile* clueless.

 

[TigerForce]

This video on twitter would have be taken from a better position than any ARC camera. Still think that a goal umpire looking straight up next to the post would be in the best position to see if it went over the post.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565523446355746817

GOAL!! Send this to the Gestapo.

 

[Brodders17]

This video on twitter would have be taken from a better position than any ARC camera. Still think that a goal umpire looking straight up next to the post would be in the best position to see if it went over the post.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565523446355746817

That shows the ball clearly passing the post below post height, inside the goals, before going higher. There is no way the ball went over the post.

 

[Ian4]

This video on twitter would have be taken from a better position than any ARC camera. Still think that a goal umpire looking straight up next to the post would be in the best position to see if it went over the post.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565523446355746817

100% goal. not even up for debate. ball is clearly inside the goal post.

 

[Harry]

This video on twitter would have be taken from a better position than any ARC camera. Still think that a goal umpire looking straight up next to the post would be in the best position to see if it went over the post.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1565523446355746817

That video angle shows the ball going over the post in a 2D view, however we live in a 3D world. You can't tell at what point the ball crossed the line. Another angle could show a totally different 2D view.

 

[Mopsy]

GOAL!! Send this to the Gestapo.

Looks a goal from that angle, and it's the best angle we have seen yet.

 

[Harry]

100% goal. not even up for debate. ball is clearly inside the goal post.

Nah disagree. You can't tell for sure from that video. And this is exactly the point.

 

[WildStyle]

Looks a goal from that angle, and it's the best angle we have seen yet.

Too close to say definitively one way or the other from everything we've seen. Goal umpire however called it a goal. AFL have ticked it off though, don't worry.

 

[Merveille]

That shows the ball clearly passing the post below post height, inside the goals, before going higher. There is no way the ball went over the post.

This is exactly right Brodders. He kicked from so close to goal, it is highly unlikely the ball elevated enough to go over. the post. I have looked frame by frame - it is inside, inside, then disappears behind post, then appears as it goes upward behind the post and into the crowd. It never went outside the post and for it to disappear had to be behind the post.

 

[mrposhman]

No idea why it was 50

No idea why it was a reversal

And no idea why advantage was forced upon Baker

...no idea x3 on that one

I think there were 3 advantages paid (2 to us and 1 to the Lions) where there was clearly no advantage to the team getting the free. Good umpires would have pulled the game back, but the umps we had yesterday are not good umpires (Meredith is ok).

 

[mrposhman]

The frees to Hipwood and whoever got that joke of a holding free against Gibcus in the last. 'Soft' doesn't cut it.

Yet every time we went forward Lynch and Dusty were held.

WWEFL.

That was going to be Hipwood too, but they played on and got the advantage. Hipwood should have those 3 on his Christmas card list, they've already given him his Christmas gifts.

 

[jb03]

That video angle shows the ball going over the post in a 2D view, however we live in a 3D world. You can't tell at what point the ball crossed the line. Another angle could show a totally different 2D view.

It just boggles the mind that the ARC reviewer could make the call he did. Defies all logic.

 

[tigertim]

Look, we should just all be appreciative that the ARC review process was introduced to stop the howlers of errors…..

 

[mrposhman]

he ran way too far, but yes it was shock they paid it in that situation and didn't expect it in the least.

Would have been nice if they had paid Bailey for running too far when he picked the ball up in the centre circle and ran to the edge of the 50 without bouncing it and then picked out someone for a mark and they kicked a goal. Last I looked, that has to be 20-25m doesn't it?

 

[Leysy Days]

 

[Ian4]

Nah disagree. You can't tell for sure from that video. And this is exactly the point.

i CAN tell for sure. The ARC overturning it is a different debate altogether. That was a goal.

Don't look at it on your phone. watch it on a desk monitor. the ball clearly goes inside the goal post. there is no doubt about it.

 

[Sallywinder]

What is the name of the grub who made the decision to overturn the goal? The grub should own this, just like a field umpire. What is his name?