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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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Been saying it for years
Time the clubs collectively pressured THEIR commission to wrest control of the game from the umpires association and disbanded the rules committee. The game does not belong to the umps so they should be dictated to about what is expected not listened to.
Time the clubs collectively pressured THEIR commission to wrest control of the game from the umpires association and disbanded the rules committee. The game does not belong to the umps so they should be dictated to about what is expected not listened to.
acatman said:
The difference between your captain and our ex-captain is that one is prepared to rub the other's face in the dirt. The other just accepts it like a good Christian boy. It's embarrassing!
The Tigers really need to adopt a more aggressive mindset during games, I don't mean HIT the opposition illegally but just play with a hardness that becomes intimidating. This is one reason why the Hawks won 2008 and Geelong have played angry ever since.
I think playing aggressive would actually increase their confidence too.
Having a history of Dank Juice might help also (jokes :hihi)
smasha said:
If they make the 8 then they'll have earned it even with a bit of umpire help.
That said I am still bleeding at that decision to ping Tuck for taking possession of the ball out of a very dodgy bounce in front of goals last season. I actually do blame the umps for us losing that game. They made at least 3 shockers that resulted in goals. We also had 6 players out compared to Norths 1. I have confidence that the Tiges will get it together and be a top 8 team pretty soon. Just gotta keep plugging away, play hard, play with aggression and simply let the umpires do their worst. It isn't a conspiracy even though it feels like it sometimes.
Marking contests???
Watched a bit of FC last night and they highlighted 3 marking contests from the weekend that involved pushing in the side. Of the 3 examples they showed, 1 was a free and 2 were OK, yet all involved similar actions. I'm not sure anyone has ever had a problem with these sort of duels in marking contests yet KB and his crazy rules committee obviopusly thought they needed to confuse the umpires and us even more by highlighting it.
And apparently the giesh was on foxtel last night confusing everyone about it. Shouldn't it ring alarm bells that everyone is now confused about something that was not a problem?
Will be interested to hear KB this morning defend the current "interpretation". He was very condescending (surprise) about Rockliff & Scott Thompson on SEN last week saying they were confused about what they could and couldn't do. Cam Mooney was the same, most past players are all saying they are confused about it. Over to you KB.
Watched a bit of FC last night and they highlighted 3 marking contests from the weekend that involved pushing in the side. Of the 3 examples they showed, 1 was a free and 2 were OK, yet all involved similar actions. I'm not sure anyone has ever had a problem with these sort of duels in marking contests yet KB and his crazy rules committee obviopusly thought they needed to confuse the umpires and us even more by highlighting it.
And apparently the giesh was on foxtel last night confusing everyone about it. Shouldn't it ring alarm bells that everyone is now confused about something that was not a problem?
Will be interested to hear KB this morning defend the current "interpretation". He was very condescending (surprise) about Rockliff & Scott Thompson on SEN last week saying they were confused about what they could and couldn't do. Cam Mooney was the same, most past players are all saying they are confused about it. Over to you KB.
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Tommo37 said:
Also 13th in free differential to opposition but on average we're only getting 1 less free a game than the opposition. Early in the season I thought we had a pretty good run. Against Fremantle the last quarter was a complete farce and against Geelong we had some really bad calls but I also remember a couple of 50-50s that may have instead resulted in goals to Geelong. We were simply outplayed and outsmarted by Geelong. Some of our players are just undisciplined at times and get sucked in.
Geisch is under the pump. About bloody time.
Some great pointed jabs. 'if a half push is OK, but a full push is not, how is an 80% push adjudicated'? Buckley. 'This would render Locket and Dunstall ineffective', C Scott. (I paraphrased). Great stuff. Incompetent.
Some great pointed jabs. 'if a half push is OK, but a full push is not, how is an 80% push adjudicated'? Buckley. 'This would render Locket and Dunstall ineffective', C Scott. (I paraphrased). Great stuff. Incompetent.
The umpires know that they have the power in their hands to stop Richmond making the 8.
A power they will giddily use on us.
Watch their work this week my Tiger friends but for those staying at home,remember to put screens in front of your TVs.
You will need them.
To the Tiger players.
Don't worry about em.They will troll us but as long as we don't take the umpires bait,we will be OK.
GO TIGES!
A power they will giddily use on us.
Watch their work this week my Tiger friends but for those staying at home,remember to put screens in front of your TVs.
You will need them.
To the Tiger players.
Don't worry about em.They will troll us but as long as we don't take the umpires bait,we will be OK.
GO TIGES!
smasha said:
Brace yourselves loyal Tiger fans its Port Adelaide at home. So like Rd 6 last year, Geisch will unleash
McBurney lol.
The "pay a 50 metre penalty against Richmond from outta my arse" specialist.
I was thinking Chaplin will get roughed up by the Port players,one of our players retaliates and we cop a 50.
Can see it happening already.
Cheats. ;D
The "pay a 50 metre penalty against Richmond from outta my arse" specialist.
I was thinking Chaplin will get roughed up by the Port players,one of our players retaliates and we cop a 50.
Can see it happening already.
Cheats. ;D
KB on SEN this morning was at his infuriating best.
Said that all these players commenting on the push rule are all playing silly buggers. The rule has been the same for years and the players should have listened better in the pre-season when the umpires come and explain the rules.
Ralphy was trying to tell him that the rule is being policed differently this season as compared to last season. What was fair last year is now not fair and the players and fans are confused.
Said that all these players commenting on the push rule are all playing silly buggers. The rule has been the same for years and the players should have listened better in the pre-season when the umpires come and explain the rules.
Ralphy was trying to tell him that the rule is being policed differently this season as compared to last season. What was fair last year is now not fair and the players and fans are confused.
wayne said:
He is probably quite right in that the rule has been the same for years, but he is the one playing silly buggers. The rule might be the same but the interpretation is different.
wayne said:
This is what *smile* me. Those who make the rules, and the umps dept change things, or how it is umpired, and then bury their head in the sand and say their isn't a prob, or everyone isn't paying attention etc. They can never take responsibility.
Look at last year when deliberate suddenly changed and ridiculously starting paying things they never pay.
This years sliding rule, over umpiring it, not using the rule for dangerous sides and over reacting.
Hands in the back. What's happened to that? They nearly shot you 5 years ago when you did it, now just pay the odd one randomly to frustrate us.
Holding the ball/incorrect disposal. Ever year they are red hot early and then stop paying it. How many were paid Sat night, one or two only?
Same *smile*. Different year.
The rule may be the same but the umpires turn it into differing rules depending on their "mood".
That's what players ,coaches and supporters of the game hate.
The interpretation of rules and it's not only that rule,it's holding the ball as well.
The silly rule that's in the rule book that let's a goal umpire impead on a players run.
That's like having a tennis umpire wandering around on the baseline while the player tries to get out of the way.
I reckon there needs to be a waiver of common sense on rules but all we're getting is the reverse.
Ray Chamberlin said he made a mistake about the Thompson free after the event.
I think he was in very good viewing position to adjudicate that free so how did he get it so wrong?
It astounds me he was right there watching the incident from a few metres away(the incident happened in the open also,no other players were blocking the incident), and then comes out with "I thought it was a push"
Give me a break LMAO or as Andy Gaze says TURN IT UP!
Umpires have so much power lol.They abuse it.
We need consistency of rules.
Not have 2 incidents and one be paid and the other not paid.
That's when we're dealing with umpires emotions when that happens.
I reckon the only way out of this is do what what the umpires do Grand Final day.
LET THE GAME BREATHE.
Pay the obvious ones ,not the fifty fiftys.
Come out and say that to the public not in a confidential dvd to the clubs.
Make a big conference,tell EVERYONE where you are as far as the rules are concerned and then we can all get on with it.
P.S. LOL Jack will get an obvious push in the back and after the game the umpire will say"I didn't think that was a clear free kick"
We can't win.
Umpires can do what they like to control a game of football I'm afraid.
I think Brad Scott has the right idea .Invite em over to the club and rub em over with baby oil hehe.
Working for them atm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFYFj5q8_Qk
That's what players ,coaches and supporters of the game hate.
The interpretation of rules and it's not only that rule,it's holding the ball as well.
The silly rule that's in the rule book that let's a goal umpire impead on a players run.
That's like having a tennis umpire wandering around on the baseline while the player tries to get out of the way.
I reckon there needs to be a waiver of common sense on rules but all we're getting is the reverse.
Ray Chamberlin said he made a mistake about the Thompson free after the event.
I think he was in very good viewing position to adjudicate that free so how did he get it so wrong?
It astounds me he was right there watching the incident from a few metres away(the incident happened in the open also,no other players were blocking the incident), and then comes out with "I thought it was a push"
Give me a break LMAO or as Andy Gaze says TURN IT UP!
Umpires have so much power lol.They abuse it.
We need consistency of rules.
Not have 2 incidents and one be paid and the other not paid.
That's when we're dealing with umpires emotions when that happens.
I reckon the only way out of this is do what what the umpires do Grand Final day.
LET THE GAME BREATHE.
Pay the obvious ones ,not the fifty fiftys.
Come out and say that to the public not in a confidential dvd to the clubs.
Make a big conference,tell EVERYONE where you are as far as the rules are concerned and then we can all get on with it.
P.S. LOL Jack will get an obvious push in the back and after the game the umpire will say"I didn't think that was a clear free kick"
We can't win.
Umpires can do what they like to control a game of football I'm afraid.
I think Brad Scott has the right idea .Invite em over to the club and rub em over with baby oil hehe.
Working for them atm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFYFj5q8_Qk
I'm not an Eddie fan........but, he has an excellent piece in the Hun today that needs to be read by EVERYONE at AFL HQ!
Watching the "footy flashback" game a couple of weeks ago the thing that was most obvious was that frees were only paid for things that actually impacted the game.
So, if a tackle slid up a little high or there was incidental contact to the head then the call was PLAY ON. They didn't play any of the tiggy touch wood rubbish frees that we now get every 30 secs. Sure, they probably could have paid a few holding decisions and in the backs, but overall, if it wasn't blatantly obvious then it wasn't paid.
Watching the "footy flashback" game a couple of weeks ago the thing that was most obvious was that frees were only paid for things that actually impacted the game.
So, if a tackle slid up a little high or there was incidental contact to the head then the call was PLAY ON. They didn't play any of the tiggy touch wood rubbish frees that we now get every 30 secs. Sure, they probably could have paid a few holding decisions and in the backs, but overall, if it wasn't blatantly obvious then it wasn't paid.
