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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

KnightersRevenge said:
That really got my blood boiling yesterday TOTTIES. The video review. The ump has to make that decision on his own, he got forced into it by the North players, that is a complete disgrace and not the way the system (which I don't endorse anyway) is supposed to work.

If it is the one I'm thinking of, I'm sorry to say that the boundary umpire in that instance was the one that gave rise to the umpire requesting the video review, as he said he saw it deflect off the players leg.

As a player you would always try and make the umpire think about it though - better get used to that my friend. Umpires love some drama, it must be in their DNA!
 
Jason King said:
You will find it was Deledios "Pointing" which caused the free. The AFL class that as "demonstritive behaviour" towards an umpire.

That wuss provoked Lids and should apologise for it.
 
Jason King said:
You will find it was Deledios "Pointing" which caused the free. The AFL class that as "demonstritive behaviour" towards an umpire.
So have the umpires created a rod for their own back? Does that mean that every time a player points at the replay its a free kick/50m penalty? I seriously doubt it, it happend 10 times a game and the free is so very rarely paid. Of course consistency isnt in the umpires vocabulary is it.
 
tigertim said:
So have the umpires created a rod for their own back? Does that mean that every time a player points at the replay its a free kick/50m penalty? I seriously doubt it, it happend 10 times a game and the free is so very rarely paid. Of course consistency isnt in the umpires vocabulary is it.

They were consistent yesterday....consistently *smile* :mad:

I've been going to the footy for years and this season, I am just about convinced that the umpires have an agenda and a vendetta.

If we are behind in free kicks at half time, you can bet your bottom dollar that the free kick ledger will be evened up.
The umpires do not want to have a skewed free-kick count at the end of the game as when people look at the stats, they glance at the "for" and "against' column and if it reads 19-18 or 29-31, nobody bats an eyelid.
But its where the free-kicks happen that make the difference and when the free-kick happens that determine the power the umpire has on the game.

Too many times this season, the free-kick count is rather even come the end of the game but we all feel we have suffered an injustice because of the umpires.
I think this is more to do with the umpires changing the momentum of the game when we are on top or paying free kicks for us deep in our defence while the opposition get free kicks in crucial parts of the ground where they can score.
 
On a positive note, I did like the continuing trend of the umpires to let the game play on and end in a bounce, rather than paying "technical" free kicks.
 
Liverpool said:
They were consistent yesterday....consistently sh!t :mad:

I've been going to the footy for years and this season, I am just about convinced that the umpires have an agenda and a vendetta.

If we are behind in free kicks at half time, you can bet your bottom dollar that the free kick ledger will be evened up.
The umpires do not want to have a skewed free-kick count at the end of the game as when people look at the stats, they glance at the "for" and "against' column and if it reads 19-18 or 29-31, nobody bats an eyelid.
But its where the free-kicks happen that make the difference and when the free-kick happens that determine the power the umpire has on the game.

Too many times this season, the free-kick count is rather even come the end of the game but we all feel we have suffered an injustice because of the umpires.
I think this is more to do with the umpires changing the momentum of the game when we are on top or paying free kicks for us deep in our defence while the opposition get free kicks in crucial parts of the ground where they can score.
I have no belief that the umps have an agenda towards Richmond. Makes no sense but I do beleive we get the wrong end of the stick far too often. I think the Adelaide game was one of the rare occurances that I thought we got the rub.
 
What I’m really annoyed at is after reading the hun and listening to SEN this morning, there has been no mention in the media about the umpiring in the first half yesterday. so people just sit back and accept that its part of the game and be done with it? It seems to be the footy mentality these days. Richmond has had a terrible run with the umpiring in 2012… the worst in living memory. like what james *smile* did famously all those years ago, I would have loved dimma (or someone at the club) to come out screaming about the umpires performance. I’m happy for the club top cop a $5000 fine if it means the anti Richmond umpiring this year is brought to the forefront of the mainstream footy media.

rosy23 said:
The umpiring wasn't great but that went both ways. I wouldn't blame them for our loss.

were you at the game rosy? because there was a hell of a lot going on behind play. i admit some of the decisions that upset the supporters yesterday were correct a lot of the time, but how north melbourne got away with the holding on jack was just staggering. he should have received at least 4 free kicks in the first half. right there is the difference in the game.

Tommo37 said:
Can someone please explain how Cotchin was penelised deliberate out of bounds when he was tucked up against the boundary and kicked the ball up the ground, ansd yes it was umpire no.24 who was having a great game for nmelb today.

i actually thought that was a clear free kick. You need to consider his intent… that ball was going nowhere except the boundary line. cotch should have ran it out.

Bennnny said:
Someone said to me that Jack is a constant back chatter and the umpires don't like him much for that.

this is what annoys me. so what if the players complain? if the free kick is there, the umpires need to be professional enough to pay it. forget this vindictive rubbish and do your bloody job!!!

What even more annoying is the dream run his cousin has had in his career.
 
This howler has escaped the scrutiny too. Can't remember what quarter ( 2nd or 3rd). Cotch is clearing from the defensive 50 on the southern stand side. Ball goes out of bounds, North players call for a deliberate free. We can hear the umpire say back to the North player "he was pushed as he kicked it". Replay shows he sure was pushed as he kicked.

So where was the free *smile* kick????
 
KnightersRevenge said:
That really got my blood boiling yesterday TOTTIES. The video review. The ump has to make that decision on his own, he got forced into it by the North players, that is a complete disgrace and not the way the system (which I don't endorse anyway) is supposed to work.

I counted several free kicks and 50 m penalties in that little exchange. We should have won the game by six goals just as a result of that.

I also seem to remember an Umpire giving Petrie a "stern talking to" earlier in the game, as if a 200 game veteran needed to be reminded of his obligations.

Jason King said:
You will find it was Deledios "Pointing" which caused the free. The AFL class that as "demonstritive behaviour" towards an umpire.

What can I say?

Phantom said:
On a positive note, I did like the continuing trend of the umpires to let the game play on and end in a bounce, rather than paying "technical" free kicks.

So do I, until they pluck a "technical" one and undo everything.

We hear AFL officials stating all the time that: "The head is sacrosanct."

I watch a lot of footy and I am here to tell you that the "Head is only sacrosanct...........sometimes," a push-in-the back is a push-in-the-back occasionally, a throw is an incorrect disposal once in a blue moon and there is a "5m exclusion zone" around a player who has taken a mark/been awarded a free kick for a brief period in the second quarter every third Sunday of the month when it suddenly becomes the rotating "rule of the day. Roll up, roll up, everyone's a winner."

Apparently now you are more likely to give away a free kick if you question an umpire's decision during "zero tolerance" minute than you are for ripping someone's head off.
 
tigertim said:
So have the umpires created a rod for their own back? Does that mean that every time a player points at the replay its a free kick/50m penalty? I seriously doubt it, it happend 10 times a game and the free is so very rarely paid. Of course consistency isnt in the umpires vocabulary is it.

Umpires get a spine ? :help :rofl Not a chance.
 
Ian4 said:
What I’m really annoyed at is after reading the hun and listening to SEN this morning, there has been no mention in the media about the umpiring in the first half yesterday. so people just sit back and accept that its part of the game and be done with it? It seems to be the footy mentality these days. Richmond has had a terrible run with the umpiring in 2012… the worst in living memory. like what james *smile* did famously all those years ago, I would have loved dimma (or someone at the club) to come out screaming about the umpires performance. I’m happy for the club top cop a $5000 fine if it means the anti Richmond umpiring this year is brought to the forefront of the mainstream footy media.

Perhaps we could start a rival to PYMPS and use it to pay for the outbusrt, maybe sponsor Kingy or Jack to have a lash every now and then?

were you at the game rosy? because there was a hell of a lot going on behind play. i admit some of the decisions that upset the supporters yesterday were correct a lot of the time, but how north melbourne got away with the holding on jack was just staggering. he should have received at least 4 free kicks in the first half. right there is the difference in the game.

The attention Maric was getting to try to get him to start something, or just to impede his access to the centre for the ball up was ridiculous. I have seen frees paid against us before the siren for this but they just kept doing it and the umps were nowhere!

i actually thought that was a clear free kick. You need to consider his intent… that ball was going nowhere except the boundary line. cotch should have ran it out.
Disagree. Cotch was following the ball along the boundary and would have collected it but he got shepherded over the boundary by a North player. It was not deliberate, he was actually trying to keep it in.

Pretty terrible yesterday and King wasn't even out there, I'd hate to think what *smile* they would have come up with.
 
Phantom said:
On a positive note, I did like the continuing trend of the umpires to let the game play on and end in a bounce, rather than paying "technical" free kicks.

Can't recall a single free against a player lying on the ball. Those are usually the ones the umps love - the theatrical 'balllllllllllllllllll' motion.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Can't recall a single free against a player lying on the ball. Those are usually the ones the umps love - the theatrical 'balllllllllllllllllll' motion.

They take 5 seconds to slowly cross their arms and bend over just so the spotlight in a supporter's eyes are firmly planted on the great stage performer in green. Ahhhhh....the FAME!!
 
The one that sticks out is the Morris one on quarter time. He gets taken high as he marks it and then the Norf players run in and pummel him on the ground including a good couple of punches to the face. That should have been 50m which would have resulted in a shot at goal for Morris. Instead the umps just back away as the "men" partake in a bit of slap and tickle.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Can't recall a single free against a player lying on the ball. Those are usually the ones the umps love - the theatrical 'balllllllllllllllllll' motion.

Ah yes, its when they get to break out their favourite "Disco" moves and groove to the moods of the crowd. I'm waiting for the day when an umpire pauses, pulls out his ray bans and puts them on before he trips on the light fantastic and finishes with a moonwalk as his final flourish.


Oh wait. That was Leslie Neilson in the Naked Gun.

If only Billy Bowden was a footy umpire.
 
TOT70 said:
Ah yes, its when they get to break out their favourite "Disco" moves and groove to the moods of the crowd. I'm waiting for the day when an umpire pauses, pulls out his ray bans and puts them on before he trips on the light fantastic and finishes with a moonwalk as his final flourish.

If only Billy Bowden was a footy umpire.

:hihi

As they already have a mike attached, just do the moonwalk and scream out "Coz this is thriller, thriller night....cha'mone...oww".
 
IMO the worst decision by far was the Ferrito one.
He takes 2 bounces, runs 40 metres, gets tackled, does not dispose of the ball correctly, and it's "play on".
Absolute shocker and worse than the Cotch OOB stupidity.
 
poppa x said:
IMO the worst decision by far was the Ferrito one.
He takes 2 bounces, runs 40 metres, gets tackled, does not dispose of the ball correctly, and it's "play on".
Absolute shocker and worse than the Cotch OOB stupidity.

yer i remember that one .

Another time Mcidiotburney is like 10 metres away in the foward line and i cant remember
someone copped a high tackle , full view of it he had , didn't give a free but the umpire nearer the middle
of the ground had to call it.
Beyond hopeless umpiring is.
 
The free against Martin for pushing Wright in the chest after the rushed behind in the 3rd was a farce. The glee McBurney got from yelling - "prohibited contact 50m, prohibited contact 50m" was just a little annoying.