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Trent Cotchin (Merged)

momentai said:
It wasn’t until the 22 draft that our emphasis turned so emphatically to disposal skill, our game before the stand rule being so different.
That rule change was aimed directly at our chaos game and hit us like a bomb.
Never to be forgotten.

…that should read 21 draft.
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Exactly we had a list that was build strategy based around a certain style of play that worked. The AFL turned the game on it's head by removing pressure on the ball carrier with us most affected. Chaos out, clinical in. I remember thinking in the round 3 loss against Sydney back in 2021 that the sport looked completely different.
That was not easy to correct overnight. We're playing catch up now by placing a premium on disposal but were at the wrong end of the draft. Gil's henchman SHocking royally shafted us.
 
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It’s just goes to show that why you are doing your job has an impact on how well you do your job.

I’m not sure what I posted about the split impacting the playing group. I think my brain said it wouldn’t but my gut said it must. All these things are 1-2% but clearly that matters in a tight comp. Maybe some players didn’t prep as hard because it turned from a mission into a job and that lead to injuries / poorer performance - we will never know.
 
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Am I missing something here?

What exactly does he mean by lagger and how does it apply to Cotch?
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Lagger is a slang term for someone who whistleblows info that should be kept secret.

I wonder what his Dad had to do with this.
 
So uncharacteristic.

I have a feeling Cotchy will be already seriously regretting this stuff. What a way to leave...
Dropping a hand grenade on the way out of his beloved club, exposing a series of tit-for-tat pettiness that feeds the media.

KB should have been his cautionary tale.

Good old-fashioned discretion is required. Not petty anecdotes and cash for comments in his new book.
 
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Scoop said:
Staggered at people turning their nose up at Cotchin including an honest assessment of the key issues.

Im more annoyed that Dimma ended a generation of success over a fling.
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Era was already on the way down.
The core group have been up for almost 10yrs.
If you think about it,By the time 2021 ended we played an extra season because of finals over that time.
Can't understand how a personal life of anyone in a team enviorment can have an impact like its been suggested.Players play for each other.
 
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achillesjones said:
So uncharacteristic.

I have a feeling Cotchy will be already seriously regretting this stuff. What a way to leave...
Dropping a hand grenade on the way out of his beloved club, exposing a series of tit-for-tat pettiness that feeds the media.

KB should have been his cautionary tale.

Good old-fashioned discretion is required. Not petty anecdotes and cash for comments in his new book.
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KB was metaphorically dead to me when he said what he said about Dusty.... Then wasn't man enough to walk it back.
 
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Scoop said:
True, still impacted the group and changed dynamics.


No it's not, Dimma had a game plan and rarely deviated from it. It was a strength and a weakness.

The magnets rarely moved.
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losing Rance was a big hurdle to climb, but we did it twice. Never forget this, very proud of the organisation, It was very difficult and everyone (par Higgins) put in.
 
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Jason King said:
KB was metaphorically dead to me when he said what he said about Dusty.... Then wasn't man enough to walk it back.
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Just watch the 1980 complete Tiger finals series again and all will be forgiven well before he turns Stan Magro inside out. He is our GOAT.
 
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True, still impacted the group and changed dynamics.


No it's not, Dimma had a game plan and rarely deviated from it. It was a strength and a weakness.

The magnets rarely moved.
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With Brodders on this. His ability to see understand why his teams lose (or are losing) was (and is) and underrated skill of his.

Only need to look at the teams ability to:

1) Turn around an earlier loss then reverse that in big games later in the year.
2) Turn around an in-game deficit in finals matches. All the Geelong games were cases in point.
 
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achillesjones said:
So uncharacteristic.

I have a feeling Cotchy will be already seriously regretting this stuff. What a way to leave...
Dropping a hand grenade on the way out of his beloved club, exposing a series of tit-for-tat pettiness that feeds the media.

KB should have been his cautionary tale.

Good old-fashioned discretion is required. Not petty anecdotes and cash for comments in his new book.
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Dunno.... everyone is crying out for transparency and he gives it and some don't want to hear it.
Can't see how this impacts Cotch's standing at the club one little bit.
As for KB.... loved him as a player and everything he did to help us have success.
As I've aged though, I sort of see him as a bloke with a huge narcissistic personality.
 
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TrialByVideo said:
Dunno.... everyone is crying out for transparency and he gives it and some don't want to hear it.
Can't see how this impacts Cotch's standing at the club one little bit.
As for KB.... loved him as a player and everything he did to help us have success.
As I've aged though, I sort of see him as a bloke with a huge narcissistic personality.
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Just don’t understand why a bloke that is probably worth 10mill, would bother writing a book that will cause you grief
 
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Scoop said:
No it's not, Dimma had a game plan and rarely deviated from it. It was a strength and a weakness.

The magnets rarely moved.
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Yeah I'm with brodders. It may or may not be true, but you have to ask some questions;
Was Dimma less flexible than other coaches? I personally don't think so. But he also won more flags than other coaches.
Would he have been more successful or less successful if he was more freewheeling with the magnets?

This isn't directed at you, but generally after a loss a lot of fans say a) we lost it with those whacky moves or b) we might have won if we'd made a few whacky moves. I think Dimma being inflexible is a myth, but even if its true it was a pillar to our success long term even it might have cost in a few quatrters or games. You can't have everything all the time. I also think the myth of inflexible Dimma is in turn based on this broader romantic myth of making a whacky move that wins a game and makes headlines, but very rarely actually happens.
 
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Leysy Days said:
2) Turn around an in-game deficit in finals matches. All the Geelong games were cases in point.
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Yep, very often it wasnt moving a magnet, but a shift in the way we moved the ball, or set up behind (or in front) of the ball, or something similar.

He knew how we played our best footy, and typically started games trying to win that way, but would make adjustments as needed
 
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TrialByVideo said:
Dunno.... everyone is crying out for transparency and he gives it and some don't want to hear it.
Can't see how this impacts Cotch's standing at the club one little bit.
As for KB.... loved him as a player and everything he did to help us have success.
As I've aged though, I sort of see him as a bloke with a huge narcissistic personality.
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Yep. Agree, but in his defence there is a massive conger line of champs with narcissistic personalities. :)
 
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