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RFC not KFC said:
Tragic day yesterday in Darwin on their biggest day of the racing year with the death of jockey Simone Montgomerie. Thoughts are with her family and the tight-knit racing community of the Territory.

A truly sad day. Glad they called the races off.

Very sad.
 
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I got a hiding from Bel Thor on the weekend. Ouch. One serious bet for the day.

Craig is very fresh and a risk for mine anytime. His best is genius. But I'm not a fan early in the season. My error. I probably won't back up until we find a stronger race and a bigger price. But be sure, Bel Thor is a comer.

I was surprised to see Broken win at 6f last Saturday. I think the error was mine. Sure no form beyond 5f but the stable, the placement. Even the jockey. I misread that race and I paid.

As for Second Effort I walked into the Kingsford pub (Churchill's) straigbht off the road from Canberra and asked the locals if there had been a breath of rain in Melbourne because I wanted to unload on SE. They said - No rain. So I backed the other wet tracker - Hall's mount (ran second at 40/1).

Sydney flogged us an hour or three later.

Dirty days for me. Good to see the faithful making a buck off Nash. Might be a good spring coming for us all. Early spring pay days make your year. The sprints are easy.
 
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Yeah, time to start hitting the replays. Getting close to that time of year.
 
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Time for the replays, indeed, Leyser.

Here's one. This bloke was second in a Breeders Cup and is a very glamourous type. (This is not a Gold Cup candidate.) Gyps tells me Sea Moon joined Lloyd in January.

[youtube=560,315]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tza_SAm0xHQ[/youtube]

Now that's a turn of foot.
 
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Last week I backed Broken and Veyron. Then let a lot ride on Bel Thor. Craig slaughterd it. Thanks, Craig. You toilet gimp. Oh, big dough for this punter.

Anyway, now that my rant is over I can tell you why I like Craig. He is a perfect gentleman, a bilingual millionaire. Long before he almost rode the big treble he was an apprentice who could find the rail on a roughie and work into it with the soft run. In the early carnival he starts rusty. So if you want to back him in the early spring I'd be relying on his natural strength. I was wrong to back him on that favourite (I got four bucks).

Caulfield Race 5 -

During the winter I backed a horse and had it heavily in trifectas with the subsequent winner of the race. I said to the Gyps, before the race, that irrespective of how it went on the slow track I would find it in the spring in a much hotter field, a big one, at seven furlongs - on a good track.

Underestimation races on speed, the fourth behind Jimando in 1:22.9 counts as nothing on his good track matrix, and he will run one-two or last in race five tomorrow. I'll be taking the hit or ruling.

Strawberry Boy, well, he should lead unless there's a bizarre team ride. If he hands up to High Aims SB will take a late split and win. Underestimation, if on the job, will sit fifth the fence. Niblick I have outside the leader with Soledad (D. Dunn) wide.

Under the Eiffel if ridden by N. Hall would be guaranteed to be fourth one out and hard to beat for an ancient nonnie. P. Moloney is in good nick and we all know where he should possie.

If things work out for me, Strawberry Boy will cover the first five furlongs in 1:00 and slipping home in 34.7 my bloke will get off the rail as High Aims wobbles and drive through for the win. 25/1 now, I think I'll get better.

Pommies like Goldoni and Lidari can blow us all away. But they're not 33/1.

Race 6 -

I read this race wrong on Thursday. I had Jolie Bay locked in second with it a chance to go based on the golden rule - with a bonnie put a tops rider on and get the money.

I read the race this way yesterday - Chiaramonte would skip two in front at the turn and Jolie Bay would have to work into it from seventh and would fail in the shadows of the post.

I was wrong on two counts. Chiaramonte will probably profit from the run and may not be set to lead. (He can.) And Jolie Bay was born to run at 1100m at Caulfield. If this were an Oakleigh Plate I would tee off. Boss is a big on and this mare ran some super races as a 3yo.

Her second behind Better than Ready in 1:8 odd at 6f was a cracker. She posed up and was left in front way too early. BtR was four off the cracking speed on the rail and just outstayed her. 1100m? She wins by three.

Run 1:8 for 6f? There is only one racehorse in this race that can do that and she is better suited at five and a half furlongs. Anchor in most of my quaddies.

Samaready, well, yeah. A bit. But 5/2 - myair. Will probs run third and destroy my trifecta. Just like Rain Affair did last week. Even if the 2yo star is ready to break many laws of probability Newitt has to break more. He'd break the toilet seat if he didn't always go too early.

But if Miracles of Life can carry Stojakovic Samaready can carry Newitt.

If Rodd were riding any other than Undeniably I'd be on. (And I smashed Undeniably in the last Newmarket.) Satdee at 8/1 I'll watch. HE has two failures at the course - each a fourth in an Oakleigh Plate. OK. Gotta go in.

Race 7 -

I like the imports, Kempasour, Pakal and maybe Araldo. No value.

Folding Gear finds more trouble than James Hird and may want one more run. But if he'd had a clear run in his recent second up efforts his record would be very different. I love Melham but the handicapper is on FG. 40/1? I'll back him. BTW from gate 15 I expect Melham to find the rail tenth. I hope he doesn't because I'd like my bloke to get a clear run from tenth one out.

Tanby is thrown into this. Arnold will ride as told for Lloyd - not his usual *smile*. Wrong price. Chasse will be slaughtered by D. Dunnyfall. But suppose all the bad spots are taken when Dolly gets out of the gates? Wrong price.

James McDonald would give a bike a sore back. But my form guide has him right in the money. 33/1 or better. Tough race if you risk the imports. Tough anyway.

Race 8 -

Atlantic Jewel is no Back Caviar. But this field would pose no threat to the champ. Hmmm... it's the best chance I'll get to lay AJ. $1.95 overnight. Lay.

It's a Dundeel should be fave at 9/4 IMO. AJ 3/1. I want to lay him too at that price. Caulfield. But 9/2 overnight is way generous. Must go in.

Working through them I'm on Happy Trails. (I know - again. OMG that Doncaster. NO rain on any radar. The money, the money, the money.) The 14/1 is gone. I'll get 8/1 and cop it.

A trial -

The Gyps told me after he watched Atalantic Jewel beat Red Fez in a trial tha he found the trial "inconclusive". I think that tomorrow he'll back Red Fez.


The Tigers are in the finals and this may be a football dead rubber. But the Richmond fans are up and about. It's a tough day's racing. So let's win.
 
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Great stuff Jack. Ah, its good to have the big racing back.

One to make sure you throw into your multi's in Race 6 - It Is Written. Form around Pago Rock & Loveyamadly stacks up very well in this. Bam Bam on, big plus. 20/1 - Wrong price.

Small nibble on two you threw out Chasse & Underestimation. Love horses that drop big in weight after a failure.

Not with you on the mare Atlantic Jewel. She simply sprints too quickly for these. Kav reckons he's never had one as good as her, and he's had some gooduns. One out in everything for leysy. Reckon she wins this hard held by 3 & Plate Fav come 5pm.

Vain Queen along with Fast & Rocking the other two straight out bets on the card for leysy.

Good Luck All.
 
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had 3 each way bets on the rawiller boys today. didn't base the bets on anything other than who the jockeys were. 2 bummers but brad gave me my biggest win ever with a 50-1 winner.
 
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I reckon Leysy may have posted that on his phone from a penthouse cocktail bar. Heh heh. Did you destroy them, brother?

Rosy, Brad's ride on Ibicenco was genius. 50/1? Smashen. :clap

I did mine on the punt but it was a great day of racing.

Samaready was far too good. Very authoritative win. Great story too.

But the big news on the day was Atlantic Jewel. Awesome win. What a return. A great development for the spring. Shaping up brilliantly.
 
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This is what I know about racing. My old basketball coach was a racing scientist. He owned a curtain factory in Clayton and employed 13 staff - mostly European mothers on sewing machines - and to keep them on he had to win at the races. He studied form, bloodlines, jockeys, tracks, weather, seasons, bookmakers (stuff the TAB) and margins of every dimension. He had the races on the radio 18 hours a day 7 days a week. He bought the Truth for the form guide - he was gay and could make that claim honestly. He only bet on course on true tracks in spring. He only bet at Caulfield and a couple of country tracks - only with a few bookies. He would watch early morning track work when he could get there.

I went to the races once with him and I saw that he couldn't stuff the money he'd won into all of his pants and jacket pockets. He would not give me a tip on the day. I won nothing.

He never sacked one of his workers.

I've won good $ on about 12 Melbourne Cups. I used to use a system that a writer in the Australian newspaper had until the number of o'seas horses in the race got to the point where it rendered the system useless. For a while there I was a legend to family and friends.

Seabiscuit is a great movie. Truly.

And a very good Australian writer was infatuated with racing. Can't remember who. Could take or leave his stuff too. But his work on racing was pure joy.

That's it.
 
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FitenFitenWin said:
And a very good Australian writer was infatuated with racing. Can't remember who. Could take or leave his stuff too. But his work on racing was pure joy.

That's it.

That was Gerald Murnane FFW. Extraordinary writer. Probably a genius Id say. Im not smart enough to understand him. 'The Plains' is a very unique and hard to read book that took me about a month to get through.
 
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After throwing out more winners than Dyer'ere's had late nights just a couple for leysy today.

Adamantium in race 7 best of the day. Massive overs ILO. Loves the straight, repeat its run in the Standish running 1.08.2 it wins this. Flew in a trial at the track before a massive forgive at the Valley firstup that got us this price. Will lead, kick & give a huge sight.

Oasis Bloom will improve on today, but well worth an e/w nibble in the last. Reckon she wins the Myer Classic on Derby Day but can take some chocolates on the way.

Good luck all.
 
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Sorry I'm a week late, my cousin's horse Beck Said No Credit won last week at Caulfield at 9s. Wasn't on :p. If I'd backed it it would lost anyway. It ran at Ballarat the exact moment we were carrying my uncles coffin out of St Bridits church in Ballan a couple of months ago, did nothing, changed trainers, won every start since. good on 'em.
 
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My brother in laws horse is running around today and Ive had a pretty good go at it. Newitt is back aboard after a shocking ride by Williams last start (ignored all instructions), is primed today.

BELLS OF TROY, watch it sprout wings down the straight.
 
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Leysy Days said:
After throwing out more winners than Dyer'ere's had late nights just a couple for leysy today.

Adamantium in race 7 best of the day. Massive overs ILO. Loves the straight, repeat its run in the Standish running 1.08.2 it wins this. Flew in a trial at the track before a massive forgive at the Valley firstup that got us this price. Will lead, kick & give a huge sight.

Oasis Bloom will improve on today, but well worth an e/w nibble in the last. Reckon she wins the Myer Classic on Derby Day but can take some chocolates on the way.

Good luck all.

Agree on that pair, Leyser. Oasis Bloom I may be teeing off on third up but have to have something on today. And Adamantium will not be beat in 1:8.

I like Hill Spy. Stone dead last start and 10/1 to 5/1 on Thursday. Melham is the sneaky star of the moment.

Sea Moon, if he shows that turn of foot, will level them. (See above.)

Looking for my usual roughie brigade, I'll be backing Jolie Blond based on blond reasoning. They trimmed her aggressively first up (25s to 12s) and she went like a busted arse. Second up she's up five lengths in class. Go figure. I like all that. Her Hareeba win was very comfortable and I think she has a lot of scope. 100/1 now.

I also like Chosen to Fly at the 25s. A winner down the straight, he will be right in this for at least a minor.

And Broken keeps getting pout in price for winning. The old story. Good trifecta race IMO.

Just on Rebel Dane the Gyps tells me he has grown from 440kg to 480kg. And nuts off is a great gear change. I won't totally lay him.

In Sydney I'm on Belltone in the Tramway. He's a lurker who did not get a clear go last start. 50/1. Tris make interesting times.

One more roughie of note. Mutual Trust. It's already been trimmed to 30/1. Definitely one for the tris.

Very enjoyable posts, PREnders. Good luck.

Really
 
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Dyer'ere said:
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And Broken keeps getting pout in price for winning. The old story. Good trifecta race IMO.

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15 dollars fixed oddsis pretty good. greg miles doesn't have it in his top 4 tips and there's obviously a not of interest from punters yet. let them ignore the brad factor at their peril.
 
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yep archy. good thing i don't bet on footy. go tiges. :hihi
 
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I got a touch up but I enjoyed the day's racing.

I switched off Hill Spy and onto Charlie in the Danehill so I had some of their money to lose. Nyair. On that race and the axia of racing, the rail is never off. The jockeys are. See Mick Rodd in that race or Jim Cassidy any time he's interested.

I was keen on Shoreham before I switched onto Mutual massacre. Shoreham had no fresh form to speak of. He was 200/1 for the Melbourne Cup before the race and is now unders at 60/1. But he does have a little bit of old fashioned glamour now, having done them in a sprint.

I mentioned Ben Melham's great placement in running in my previous post. He got that with Mutual Massacre and then would not knock one over to get a run. Mutual should have won the race by three hard held. Melham lacks balls. He will be told and he will ride with the required desperation soon. Or he'll be sacked.

His ride on Commanding Jewel was a money ride. I expect more of that.

Puissance de Lune ran a nice race behind the more seasoned Foreteller. The pace was farcical (62 and 34?) but they put the lie to the pretenders behind. Seriously Moudre? You would want to be eight underdone to find meaningful improvement from the beaten brigade.

Except maybe Sea Moon. It did pretty much fall on barrier release. Ah, Craig. I don't have much luck with him in the early spring. But not sure even I could can him for that. It was a terrible run but... Jury out IMO.

In the sprint I think Adamantium needed the run and is a query for class anyway. Newitt went early. Surprise. Melham did too but maybe they were both a bit dead.

Speediness would have to improve two lengths to be a mongrel. Like the Craiglee the also rans must have been very underdone if they are to make history. Rebel Dane's run was terrible. They should try to put the balls back on him. Maybe he nedded the hitout. Albrecht was ok.

The quaddie paid 54k. Massive bonus overs. Once you worked wide of the top two in the sprint (I backed one at 25/1 and another at 125/1) you should have had the field. If you back a horse at 100/1 you don't like the quality of the contenders. The other three legs were very gettable. I anchored Charlie Boy and should have anchored Commanding Jewel. Thousand Guineas is much better form than Vanity form (Alzora).

That was a big quaddie. 91k best TAB, subject to fine print.
 
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