Thoroughbred racing

[ARCHYBOY]

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Werribee Cup when trained by D Hall, then won the Queen Elizabeth on last day of carnival, I think.

BINGO.... The Grand old days of the Werribee Cup, only certainty on the day was 20 drunk idiots having a punch up after the last.

 

[Ridley]

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I reckon some sold All Too Hard short the previous week when he beat Pierro. Beat him convincingly again in the CP. A very handy colt.

He's a Melbourne horse pure and simple. That's his only defeat in Melbourne; a neck in the Cox Plate Fair record. He's handy the other way but if he was my horse he'd just go around in Melbourne.

 

[Ridley]

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That was a hot run Cox Plate, not a stroll in the park where a trackworker outsprints them. All Too Hard was awesome. Destroyed the field by four lengths. Ocean Park outclassed him. Best Cox Plate win since Saintly IMO. Historic Cox Plate.

Not sure about that mate. Reckon it was a pretty ordinary field. The first two may be better than many (including myself) gave them credit for and Pierro is a top sprinter miler but the rest are not much better than a bit above average. Ethiopia may turn into a topliner but to this stage he has won one race. There is a serious dearth of top class older WFA horses in this country at the moment.

 

[Ridley]

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Best CP I can remember was the year that Super Impose won, I'm a little biased as I think he was the best horse I have ever seen. That CP was the greatest for 3 reasons,
-Best field ever for CP
-Best run by a winner, was near last and the widest on the turn
-I had loaded up at 20-1 :clap

Yep agree the 92 Cox Plate was clearly the best ever. 14 horses with combined earnings of $28 million; 20 years ago This year's 14 horses would have been lucky to crack $10 million.

What a field; I was there and like you I backed the great Super Impose as well. He was one of my favourites but I do agree with LTRTR that he did have a nasty habit of getting beaten at short odds. Remember he was odds on near unbeatable in the big WFA 2400 metre race in Sydney autumn 1991 (Tancred, BMW, Mercedes whatever it was called back then) and ran unplaced. The very next week he drops back to the mile of the Doncaster and salutes at double figure odds with 59kg on his back!!

The late 80s early 90s were great days for classic WFA racing.

 

[tigergollywog]

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Best Cox Plate had to be 86 didnt it? Bone Crusher V Our Waverley Star became a euphemism for a champion contest of relentless effort. I enjoyed Sunlines wins 2000/1 the most. One year, i was covetting a new surfboard but only had about a fifth of the purchase price. I backed the great Mare pre-post, with the classic punter thinking process "$100 on its own isnt much good to me, $500 will be much more useful". Sunline won and I got the new board. What a superb horse.

 

[jb03]

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Pretty sure Sunline never finished in front of Northerly

 

[tigergollywog]

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Pretty sure Sunline never finished in front of Northerly

pretty sure your right JB. I'm hoping Ethiopia is the next best to come out of WA.

 

[Dyer'ere]

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Pretty sure Sunline never finished in front of Northerly

Quite right, JohnBoy. And IMO Northerly was a much better horse back in the field on a hard tempo. He was too good to be risked back there.

When we still had the big money in the big handicaps like the Donny, Epsom, Newmarket etc, horses like Northerly could stamp their greatness. Shame he only contested a single Caulfield Cup of those. He might have won them all.

 

[Leysy Days]

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Northerly was a champion who had Sunline in his back pocket.

Leysy's 2nd fav horse ever.

 

[tigersnake]

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Yep agree the 92 Cox Plate was clearly the best ever. 14 horses with combined earnings of $28 million; 20 years ago This year's 14 horses would have been lucky to crack $10 million.

What a field; I was there and like you I backed the great Super Impose as well. He was one of my favourites but I do agree with LTRTR that he did have a nasty habit of getting beaten at short odds. Remember he was odds on near unbeatable in the big WFA 2400 metre race in Sydney autumn 1991 (Tancred, BMW, Mercedes whatever it was called back then) and ran unplaced. The very next week he drops back to the mile of the Doncaster and salutes at double figure odds with 59kg on his back!!

The late 80s early 90s were great days for classic WFA racing.

The prizemoney for that field is amazing. I'm only a casual racing observer, just by osmosis mostly because a lot of my family are obsessed, but I remember the race and the lead-up clearly, it was huge. I also agree on Super Impose, never won when I backed it.

I reckon Sydney champions, generally speaking, either fail or have patchy form in Melbourne. Remember Lohnro? I remember watching the telecast and a dude in the crowd had a huge banner that said 'Death, Taxes, Lohnro'. I'll never forget it. Fields of Omagh's first win. They didn't show him after the race. (Lonhro was still a champ though)

 

[Josh Beckett]

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Quite right, JohnBoy. And IMO Northerly was a much better horse back in the field on a hard tempo. He was too good to be risked back there.

When we still had the big money in the big handicaps like the Donny, Epsom, Newmarket etc, horses like Northerly could stamp their greatness. Shame he only contested a single Caulfield Cup of those. He might have won them all.

Northerly was a favourite of mine, reckon he would have won the Melb Cup if he ran in it the year he won the CC. Just refused to let horses pass him once in front.

 

[tigergollywog]

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Northerly was a champion who had Sunline in his back pocket.

Leysy's 2nd fav horse ever.

Bit harsh leysey. Sunline was a mare, Northerly a gelding, born a year apart. Yeah his WFA record says Northerly was a better horse but lets not poo poo the magnificent Sunline.

Your favourite horse depends alot on how often it won when you backed it. Ive never backed Black Caviar but backed the *smile* out of Black Bean in a fair few straight 6's. Black Bean for me rates way over Black caviar, although obviously Black Caviar could hump an extra 10kg and have Rhys Mcleod riding him and he'd *smile* all over Black Bean.

 

[Coughlan24]

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Being cup time and talking about favourite horses one of mine was Castletown he had 102 starts and raced from when he was a 2yo till he was 8 when he had his last start. He won an NZ Derby, the Auckland Cup and won the Wellington Cup 3 times. Ran a place twice in the Sydney cup and ran 3rd to Subzero & Veandercross in 1992. Just a great favourite of mine and i think he's still ticking over in the Shaky Isles at age 26.

 

[tannerztigers]

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TAB have a $4mil guaranteed quaddie pool for Flemington tomorrow.

Who do we like for the Derby tomorrow? I like Hvasstan or Super Cool

 

[Uncle]

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Who do we like for the Derby tomorrow? I like Hvasstan or Super Cool

Its A Dundeel should win, your 2 + Subiaso & Honorius are the value runners.

Reckon Soft Sand is due for a change of luck today aswell.

Happy punting.

 

[Rosy]

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Woohoo thanks heaps Uncle. Your post reminded me to put my bet in Kellini. Got on within seconds.

 

[Rosy]

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Bummer just saw Lunar Rise won. Forgot to back it. I picked my 4 bets reading the form guide in bed last night. Lunar Rise (the Bart), Kellini (my dog's name "kella" plus Nash), Nash again in the Derby and I'll have to find the form guide to see which other one I'd marked. Think I'll just go with the Nash factor. Got plenty of play money now. Paid $10 & $3 with my fixed bet.

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

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Not a lot of bragging going on here!

I heard an interesting stat: if you had $1 on the winner of the first and turned that into an all-up bet with all the other winners, how much would you have won?

 

[RFC not KFC]

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Some bragging to keep TBH interested. I didn't think Streama was a chance so boxed 6 others in a tri. Had the first 5 across the line & a massive collect. A fella at the same place I was had 40% of the quaddie - very kindly bought a few drinks for our group. I had 8 hours on the sauce, God knows how many bets, a couple of cab fares and ended up wobbling in the door with $3K more than I started with.

 

[tigersnake]

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Pretty good bragging RFC. I never plonk the Derby because a roughy usually wins. Similar story every year, couple of favourites, couple under 10s, rest 15s or over. The rest is where the winner usually lies.

Where is Scoop. What did you reckon of Winchester's run in the MacKinnon? He looks like the classic O.S. grinding type, just ground to the line and looked like he could go again, ah la Central Park, Red Cadeaux, and also early-career Makybe Diva. Plan on sticking him my trifecta. Dunaden to win for me. 13/1 on the CC was the heist of a lifetime. Geez :