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Thoroughbred racing
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Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Thanks Winmad
Hopefully sees a little more of the inside fence too, wasn't sure if it was G Boss or S Dye on board! Will pencil in 4th at Bendigo as may be a silly price.
Cheers
T44
ps Best for the weekend Shenzou Steeds (Caulfield Race 8 number 3)
winmad said:
Thanks Winmad
Hopefully sees a little more of the inside fence too, wasn't sure if it was G Boss or S Dye on board! Will pencil in 4th at Bendigo as may be a silly price.
Cheers
T44
ps Best for the weekend Shenzou Steeds (Caulfield Race 8 number 3)
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Hope you didn't go too hard Jack, connections didn't accept for the Plate today.
Dyer'ere said:
Hope you didn't go too hard Jack, connections didn't accept for the Plate today.
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Ta, L2. Not too much damage done. There would have been had she been scratched at the barrier. :hihi It was all my error anyway. The wind op was in August. Bit too recent. And she may not measure up anyway. Her very limited adult form is poor for Cox Plate level. Myer Classic is a reasonable target particularly if Smerdon gets up to his shenanigans and we get a price.
As it is I got a bit of the bookies money on the weekend. Changed my luck as soon as I stopped hanging around jb03. :hihi Southern Speed was a brilliant Caulfield Cup trial in a hacked Underwood (business as usual) and Folding Gear won by five morally.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Ta, L2. Not too much damage done. There would have been had she been scratched at the barrier. :hihi It was all my error anyway. The wind op was in August. Bit too recent. And she may not measure up anyway. Her very limited adult form is poor for Cox Plate level. Myer Classic is a reasonable target particularly if Smerdon gets up to his shenanigans and we get a price.
As it is I got a bit of the bookies money on the weekend. Changed my luck as soon as I stopped hanging around jb03. :hihi Southern Speed was a brilliant Caulfield Cup trial in a hacked Underwood (business as usual) and Folding Gear won by five morally.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Prior goes around tomorrow.. G Boss having a day off!!
Steven Arnold not a bad replacement
Up a bit in class, so maybe an e/w may be the way to go.
They are trying to teach him to settle, as longer trips are his go.
Dont put your house on it YET.....
Think he will be competitive....but will be better the further we go.
Prior goes around tomorrow.. G Boss having a day off!!
Steven Arnold not a bad replacement
Up a bit in class, so maybe an e/w may be the way to go.
They are trying to teach him to settle, as longer trips are his go.
Dont put your house on it YET.....
Think he will be competitive....but will be better the further we go.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Gee, Gai Waterhouse must be wondering what went wrong.
Gee, Gai Waterhouse must be wondering what went wrong.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Not a good day for Nash.
Two poor rides on hotpot champs. Ouch.
Not a good day for Nash.
Two poor rides on hotpot champs. Ouch.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Gai- ''I'm not disappointed. They both did a lot of work because of the way the races were run,'' she said.
''Nash [Rawiller, on More Joyous] did nothing really wrong and I don't think you would change anything about the rides, but we would like to change the result.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/no-joy-for-gai--just-a-hard-day-at-the-office-20121013-27k15.html#ixzz29DOD6zTA
Leysy Days said:
Gai- ''I'm not disappointed. They both did a lot of work because of the way the races were run,'' she said.
''Nash [Rawiller, on More Joyous] did nothing really wrong and I don't think you would change anything about the rides, but we would like to change the result.''
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/no-joy-for-gai--just-a-hard-day-at-the-office-20121013-27k15.html#ixzz29DOD6zTA
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Thats Gai, she has never bagged a hoop, least not publically. He's a good jock, especially when he can rate them in front, but Nash cooked them yesterday. Not talking through leysy's pocket either as he backed the winner of the Toorak.
Here's why -
THEY say Gai Waterhouse never has time to cook and that's a good thing for Nash Rawiller.
Rawiller deserved an almighty bake for his back-to-back butchering of Gai's two champions at Caulfield yesterday.
It was almost as if the rider was now so immersed in Sydney and Gai's way of doing things - ie.foot to the floor, no sitting back - he forgot about the tricky nuances of Caulfield.
There is a hill near the 1400m mark at Caulfield so steep only sherpas should be allowed to climb it.
There has been a rule at The Heath for 100 years. If you work hard up the hill, even if your name is Kingston Town or Tenzing Norgay, you will struggle to make the summit.
Rawiller knows this.
In a previous life, Rawiller used to ride here. He even won a Caulfield Cup a few years back on Elvstroem.
But there he was in yesterday's Toorak Handicap, charging up the hill on More Joyous, whose 60kg impost became akin to Norgay lurching up Everest with Hillary's bags, and Hillary, on his back.
Rawiller eventually found a spot outside the leader but by the home turn the little mare was gasping and a goner.
In a post race interview, Rawiller all-but 'fessed up.
Pressman: "Nash, you said she needed a tough run before the Cox Plate ... "
Rawiller (with that embarrassed half-smile of a kid caught doing something naughty): "How do I put this? Well, I certainly gave her a tough run."
Waterhouse, who doesn't cook, at least not in public, smiled happily as an ashen Rawiller returned to scale.
"There's no point being glum. We've had a really nice day at the races and there's more to come," she said, beaming.
In a way she was right. There was more butchering to come. Rawiller, pre-programmed to go forward according to Waterhouse Rule 1A) - is there even a 1B)? - was posted on a limb from a wide gate for the first 200m then, as that deadly hill loomed, pressed forward to climb it on Pierro.
Sherpas and mountain goats went sprawling as Pierro climbed and climbed.
Course and RSN racecaller Greg Miles has called thousands of horses up the Caulfield hill over the decades. Rarely has Miles seen one climb and win.
"We'll see how good he is now," Miles said.
Later, form analyst Daniel O'Sullivan would tweet that the first 1000 metres in the Guineas, including that charge up the hill, was "11 lengths quicker than normal".
Again post-race, Waterhouse beamed as Rawiller sought to disappear into the earth.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/stars-left-gasping-on-trail-of-sherpas/story-fn67siys-1226495041300
Thats Gai, she has never bagged a hoop, least not publically. He's a good jock, especially when he can rate them in front, but Nash cooked them yesterday. Not talking through leysy's pocket either as he backed the winner of the Toorak.
Here's why -
THEY say Gai Waterhouse never has time to cook and that's a good thing for Nash Rawiller.
Rawiller deserved an almighty bake for his back-to-back butchering of Gai's two champions at Caulfield yesterday.
It was almost as if the rider was now so immersed in Sydney and Gai's way of doing things - ie.foot to the floor, no sitting back - he forgot about the tricky nuances of Caulfield.
There is a hill near the 1400m mark at Caulfield so steep only sherpas should be allowed to climb it.
There has been a rule at The Heath for 100 years. If you work hard up the hill, even if your name is Kingston Town or Tenzing Norgay, you will struggle to make the summit.
Rawiller knows this.
In a previous life, Rawiller used to ride here. He even won a Caulfield Cup a few years back on Elvstroem.
But there he was in yesterday's Toorak Handicap, charging up the hill on More Joyous, whose 60kg impost became akin to Norgay lurching up Everest with Hillary's bags, and Hillary, on his back.
Rawiller eventually found a spot outside the leader but by the home turn the little mare was gasping and a goner.
In a post race interview, Rawiller all-but 'fessed up.
Pressman: "Nash, you said she needed a tough run before the Cox Plate ... "
Rawiller (with that embarrassed half-smile of a kid caught doing something naughty): "How do I put this? Well, I certainly gave her a tough run."
Waterhouse, who doesn't cook, at least not in public, smiled happily as an ashen Rawiller returned to scale.
"There's no point being glum. We've had a really nice day at the races and there's more to come," she said, beaming.
In a way she was right. There was more butchering to come. Rawiller, pre-programmed to go forward according to Waterhouse Rule 1A) - is there even a 1B)? - was posted on a limb from a wide gate for the first 200m then, as that deadly hill loomed, pressed forward to climb it on Pierro.
Sherpas and mountain goats went sprawling as Pierro climbed and climbed.
Course and RSN racecaller Greg Miles has called thousands of horses up the Caulfield hill over the decades. Rarely has Miles seen one climb and win.
"We'll see how good he is now," Miles said.
Later, form analyst Daniel O'Sullivan would tweet that the first 1000 metres in the Guineas, including that charge up the hill, was "11 lengths quicker than normal".
Again post-race, Waterhouse beamed as Rawiller sought to disappear into the earth.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/stars-left-gasping-on-trail-of-sherpas/story-fn67siys-1226495041300
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She doesn't have to lie though. Gai did question one of Nash's rides last year when he led too early and she's voiced her doubts on him in the past. I'll take Gai's word over some observers who think they know better. Maybe Nash could have ridden them differently, of course there is always a jockey element, but there were other factors why those horses didn't win. Tom Waterhouse wasn't overly confident about More Joyous, taking into consideration her huge weight, and there were concerns with Pietro as soon as the draw was announced. Maybe had your doubts pre-race too if you backed the winner?
Leysy Days said:
She doesn't have to lie though. Gai did question one of Nash's rides last year when he led too early and she's voiced her doubts on him in the past. I'll take Gai's word over some observers who think they know better. Maybe Nash could have ridden them differently, of course there is always a jockey element, but there were other factors why those horses didn't win. Tom Waterhouse wasn't overly confident about More Joyous, taking into consideration her huge weight, and there were concerns with Pietro as soon as the draw was announced. Maybe had your doubts pre-race too if you backed the winner?
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Gai says all her horses are going to win as well. Do we always believe her?
Even Nash admitted he gave More Joyous a tough run. Does leysy think he cost her the race, perhaps not with the 60kgs. but she had none once he worked her like that.
As for Pierro, he boots him up the hill 4 & 5 wide after missing the kick on a pace 11 lengths quicker than normal. That is why a 1/5 pop was burnt at the end. Wasnt the horses fault it got run down..
They were poor rides. Fact.
Cant see why its so hard to admit that, every jockey thats ever ridden has had them. & Nash had his yesterday.
Gai says all her horses are going to win as well. Do we always believe her?
Even Nash admitted he gave More Joyous a tough run. Does leysy think he cost her the race, perhaps not with the 60kgs. but she had none once he worked her like that.
As for Pierro, he boots him up the hill 4 & 5 wide after missing the kick on a pace 11 lengths quicker than normal. That is why a 1/5 pop was burnt at the end. Wasnt the horses fault it got run down..
They were poor rides. Fact.
Cant see why its so hard to admit that, every jockey thats ever ridden has had them. & Nash had his yesterday.
