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No luck in the last Rosy. I must say that I was relieved that Brad's horse didn't get a place either.

It was a day where none of the horses on my short list shaped up.

Thanks for great organisation RT and good luck to next week's tipsters.

Go Tiges !!
 
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Bad luck punters for yesterday, but at least we got some joy at the 'G last night.

Fabulist is going around in the 2nd at Sandown today, she should be fitter following her run over 1400m last week but on the negative side she steps up a further 200m, has 58.5kg and has (again!) drawn wide - 9 of 10 runners. Lots of if's...... if she can get a spot only one off fence with cover, if she is in the right mood, if nothing else runs too fast (lol) and she has some luck her way for a change she is a good each way bet. Currently $13 on IAS which I think is good value but ........

fingers and everything else crossed.

Go Tigers
 
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Cant speak for all owners of course, but our 1st horse with the BMRC Kaisership broke down badly, his strapper took him and was treated with the Stable Vets initially, then she took over. He is 7 and has the best home, still an ongoing rehab horse but she is marvellous with him, and he has this home for life. TicTacs, after winning so well, had 2 throat ops, then just couldnt be competitive. His "old" owners actually bought him back, he now has a home for life, and is doing well. Just to let people know that it is not all doom and gloom for the horses. We have others that if you like I can keep you informed on. I am more than confident that all our horses will be rehomed when the time comes.
Must say, I hate the Jumps racing, and would be very happy if it were banned completely.
 
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No real excuse for Fabulist today. She began well but jockey had to go forward to sit outside the leader. The 58.5kgs told in the straight and she didn't finish the race off. Jockey thought the effort was very good, probably 1600 just a bit beyond her, especially with 58.5 and having to be used a bit early to take up a forward spot. We will wait to see how she pulls up, either a spell or back to 1400 in restricted mares grade (there is a nice 1400m mares 0-89 at Sandown on 18 May).

Hope no heavy losses, I know I backed off a bit as there were too many ifs required.

Go Tigers

T44
 
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PRE Punters Club

Both tipsters' horses hit the front in the straight

Rosy's Strike The Tiger and happytige's Sense of Sun both hit the front in the straight of their respective races but alas got rundown over the concluding stages.

Personally I thought the jockey put in a shocker on Sense of Sun. Strike The Tiger had a tough run up front and just had to compound over the last 200.

Not to worry Rosy and happytige I am sure you will get another go or 2 or 3 over the rest of the season.

This week the champion - Bringbakflemmo takes on the challenger - Streak

Fresh tipsters in the chair to build us some collecting momentum as we move into the month of May proper. This should be a good contest because both kicked the can last year with collects......looking forward to it.

Please have your selections posted on this thread by 11am Saturday. Thanks.......RT


Order of punters for 2011 - Azzamoot has been included in our club list.

1. Bignige
2. Rolls Royce
3. eastlavy
4. Blood_17 - Return $14.00
5. Son of Francis
6. Rosy23 - - Return $92.70 - Club House Leader
7. Bernie
8. Tiger44
9. happytige
10. Bringbakflemmo - The Champion
11.Streak - The Challenger
12. felix
13. tannerztigers
14. shamenka
15. Azzamoot
16. Remote Tiger


The rules are simple -

1. Each punting weekend (usually Saturday) there is a challenger and a champion
2. Both the challenger and the champion have $10 to bet - win or place or eachway and/or allup on the thoroughbred horses OR on the AFL.

E.G. Either –
$10 win horse A, or
$10 place horse A, or
$5 win horse A and $5 win horse B, or
$5 win horse A and $5 place horse B, or
$5 place horse A and $5 place horse B, or
$5 eachway horse A, or
For those who wish to dare it is OK to have
$5 win horse A allup a win horse B, and $5 place horse A allup a place horse B, or
$5 win horse A and $5 place horse A allup a place horse B or
$10 a win on an AFL game or
$5 win on an AFL game and $5 a win an AFL game allup another AFL Game or
$10 pick the AFL margin or
$5 pick the AFL margin and $5 pick the AFL scores


3. If you collect more than the $10 outlay and more than your opponent on the day you become the champion next week.

4. Thoroughbred Selections can be at any Saturday metropolitan meeting in Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane or Adelaide. (On weekends where there are Group races on the Monday or Sunday as well as or instead of the Saturday racing the PRE Punter(s) in the chair can forgo the Saturday racing and bet on the Monday or Sunday). Please post your selections on the thoroughbred thread by 11.00am on the day of the races so it gives me time to find them and put them on. AFL selections have to be on Saturday or Sunday games only (no Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Monday or Tuesday games) and please post your selections by 11am Saturday.

5. All profits on your bet (no matter how small) will be posted to Rosy's bank account to help with the admin costs of PRE

6. All bets are put on Remote Tigers Darwin Bookie IASbet.com hence there is no outlay by other members of the Punting Club.

7. A list of all those who have entered will be determined by draw to define the order of punters. Please keep an eye on the Thoroughbred Thread during the PRE Punter of the Year 2011 punting period so you do not miss your turn.

8. A total of collects for each member will be maintained by Remote Tiger and the member with the largest total of collects by the last day of the Melbourne Spring Racing Carnival will be announced the PRE Punter of The Year 2011
 
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Rosy has biffed the punt for three or four straight years now. Why can't I take a tip? Heh heh.


But here's the issue - Hay List. It matters because he's about the best sprinter in the land (bar one) and he begs comparisons with Alinghi and Fastnet Rock. I'll tell ya to save protest that he is not as good as them on form.

Still, as Gyps points out, best spinter in Oz is best sprinter in the world.

Hay List is very smart. He is destroying everything else in the land.

Those of us who measured Fastnet and Choisir and Alinghi and Starspangledbanner and even Manikato and Vain want to measure Hay List.

Because we think that Bernborough and perhaps even Phar Lap might be frightened of Black Caviar.
 
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winmad said:
TicTacs, after winning so well, had 2 throat ops, then just couldnt be competitive. His "old" owners actually bought him back, he now has a home for life, and is doing well.
madwinner is that the TicTacs that ran at Stawell on Easter Sunday ?
If it is he has come back Ok - he finished 2nd in that race.
Is trained at Tatura now.
 
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winmad said:
Must say, I hate the Jumps racing, and would be very happy if it were banned completely.

Yet again sad, ugly scenes at Warrnambool. One horse dead. Jockeys injured, Only 2 horses to finish the main race. Spectators in hospital. Carnage. Only good luck rather than good managemrnt that more horses weren't killed.
 
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RemoteTiger said:
This week the champion - Bringbakflemmo takes on the challenger - Streak

Good luck flemmo and streaker. Eat 'em Alive.
 
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Goodwood tomorrow. Looms as a cracking affair.

Black Caviar is obviously the best form line in the universe at the moment. And Crystal Lily has run second two her twice. Deserving favourite. Pinwheel is consistent and smart, but I don't like him in a G1, regardless of how weak it looks. I'm not a fan of Catapulted at the top level either. Although, like Pinwheel, he is a B Grade champion with an imposing record of 10 wins in 20 starts. However, his most disappointing runs have come against slick opposition. In the Salinger, the Stradbroke and the Oakleigh Plate. He was in the market, everytime, and well beaten... everytime. He was backed like he couldn't get beat in the Goodwood last year and he got done by a rails hugging ride on Velocitea... a smart horse, but critically, a mare. In fairness, Catapulted may still have been a little green, as he was still incredibly lightly raced at that point.

Eagle Falls and Ortensia race against the A graders. I would've thought that qualified them to be very much in the market. But strangely, Eagle Falls has eight horses shorter in the market and Ortensia is the fourth elect. Toorak Toff returns from a throat op, and adds considerable interest. Response is very slick, and a dual G1 winner who ran very well in the Newmarket. Arinos has had the typical Jolly stable failure before his grand final. He was a certainty beaten behind Starspangled Banner in the Oakleigh Plate last year, so you could make a case for him.

Very interesting affair. Ideas still percolating at this point.
 
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Interesting read thanks Gyps. A lot of interest tomorrow even though I won't be putting any money on them.
 
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OK RT

As a preference, can I back

Belmont Race 5 No.3 Insurgency $10 win


If you prefer me to steer clear of race meetings not nominated in the rules, then can I have

$10 Richmond to beat Fremantle by more than 40 points

Thanks RT
 
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rosy23 said:
Yet again sad, ugly scenes at Warrnambool. One horse dead. Jockeys injured, Only 2 horses to finish the main race. Spectators in hospital. Carnage. Only good luck rather than good managemrnt that more horses weren't killed.

Lets blame jumps racing on the spectators being in hospital. :hihi
 
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Gypsy__Jazz said:
Goodwood tomorrow. Looms as a cracking affair.

Black Caviar is obviously the best form line in the universe at the moment. And Crystal Lily has run second two her twice. Deserving favourite. Pinwheel is consistent and smart, but I don't like him in a G1, regardless of how weak it looks. I'm not a fan of Catapulted at the top level either. Although, like Pinwheel, he is a B Grade champion with an imposing record of 10 wins in 20 starts. However, his most disappointing runs have come against slick opposition. In the Salinger, the Stradbroke and the Oakleigh Plate. He was in the market, everytime, and well beaten... everytime. He was backed like he couldn't get beat in the Goodwood last year and he got done by a rails hugging ride on Velocitea... a smart horse, but critically, a mare. In fairness, Catapulted may still have been a little green, as he was still incredibly lightly raced at that point.

Eagle Falls and Ortensia race against the A graders. I would've thought that qualified them to be very much in the market. But strangely, Eagle Falls has eight horses shorter in the market and Ortensia is the fourth elect. Toorak Toff returns from a throat op, and adds considerable interest. Response is very slick, and a dual G1 winner who ran very well in the Newmarket. Arinos has had the typical Jolly stable failure before his grand final. He was a certainty beaten behind Starspangled Banner in the Oakleigh Plate last year, so you could make a case for him.

Very interesting affair. Ideas still percolating at this point.

Intriguing race eh Gyps. Could make a case for and against every runner.

Pinwheel for leysy. Looks well in at the weights & honest as the day is long. Toorak Toff wouldnt suprise if it brained em.
 
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The Goodwood is an interesting race. It's the nature of the thing - big fields, spread of weights and class, hard racing and recently the odd quirk of luck with rain and better going.

I was not on board the Crystal Lily train early. But I am now. If she were fresh and set for this she would IMO be a knock taking certainty.

I have queries about Eagle Falls at the trip and he is incompetently trained. But he is glamour and overs at $17. Response has been crucified with 56.5. So has Toorak Toff. But he is glamour too and the throat op is interesting.

I have doubts about Crystal Lily's rightness in her prep. But she has got as close to Black Caviar as anything - twice. And I revert to the axia of racing at times like this - a smart speedy filly is too good for all but elite sprinters from the autumn on. $5 is very generous. Maybe she's over the top. But so is her price.

Arinos is a risk at 6f. I want the big price to get involved. BTW D. Jolly hs another runner in Streetcar Magic. Multis for sure. With rain a possibility Doubtful Jack is interesting. And I agree with Gyps that Ortensia is pitched in here. Miss Octopussy meets Response 4.5 kg better for their last encounter. Value.

Good luck punters.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Lets blame jumps racing on the spectators being in hospital. :hihi

Not blaming anything. People can form their own opinions. All of the instances I mentioned happened following incidents in jumps races. Of course all of those situations could have happened in flat races too...or so they like to tell us. Fact is they didn't.
 
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Personally, I think people who like jumps racing better get used to the idea that it will be banned in the not too distant future.

I get the impression that the media has picked up on the negative side of it, and is driving public sentiment to the point where the officials will have no option.
 
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Streak said:
Personally, I think people who like jumps racing better get used to the idea that it will be banned in the not too distant future.
I get the impression that the media has picked up on the negative side of it, and is driving public sentiment to the point where the officials will have no option.
Agree Streak but it's interesting to see Dennis Napthine emphasising that an Investigation will held into how Banna Strand was able to get to that fence "protecting" the spectators.
That incident has given him the chance to divert attention from the other 5 horses and jockeys which didnt complete the course.

Jumping onto a different subject.
My bet for today Remote is :

Flemington Race 3 Number 3 The Chevron. $10 the win.

This is a nostalgic bet bringing back memories of the many ( good and lousy ) bands I saw at this venue in the late 70s and 80s
before it went Disco.

Good luck Streak.
 
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