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Thoroughbred racing
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Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
I picked out Precedence for the Melbourne Cup months ago. My confidence went "bang" with my PRE selection.....I apologise.
I picked out Precedence for the Melbourne Cup months ago. My confidence went "bang" with my PRE selection.....I apologise.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
I am the same - thought the Cummings factor - but I took the wrong Cummings horse on the day - should've had Allez Wonder????????
Blood_17 said:
I am the same - thought the Cummings factor - but I took the wrong Cummings horse on the day - should've had Allez Wonder????????
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Remote, now that Precedence has failed so badly, I don't fancy anything, strongly, in the Melbourne Cup. I was sure Bart was timing Precedence for the big race. Maybe the 2010 Cup?
Remote, now that Precedence has failed so badly, I don't fancy anything, strongly, in the Melbourne Cup. I was sure Bart was timing Precedence for the big race. Maybe the 2010 Cup?
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
I use the ol' rule of thumb - 1st three placegetters in the Caulfield Cup unless one of them is a 3yo then I also take the 4th placegetter - first three place getters in the Moonee Valley Cup (which is overdue to produce the Melbourne Cup winner), 1st three placegetters in the LKS MacKinnon unless one of them is a 3yo then I also take the 4th placegetter, the winner of the ol' Hotham Handicap and the winner of the Geelong Cup
Usually finish with 4 or 5 possibly 6 horses and the winner more often than not..........
Turnbull Stakes, The ol' Craiglee Stakes and the Herbert Power over the years has also been a good early pointers - Efficient is back and on target for another tilt - Vigor did look the goods in the Craiglee and that Alcipop did win well yesterday - but they will all perform in other lead ups to the big one (Caulfield, Moonee Valley, Geelong or even a race on Derby Day......)
Blood_17 said:
I use the ol' rule of thumb - 1st three placegetters in the Caulfield Cup unless one of them is a 3yo then I also take the 4th placegetter - first three place getters in the Moonee Valley Cup (which is overdue to produce the Melbourne Cup winner), 1st three placegetters in the LKS MacKinnon unless one of them is a 3yo then I also take the 4th placegetter, the winner of the ol' Hotham Handicap and the winner of the Geelong Cup
Usually finish with 4 or 5 possibly 6 horses and the winner more often than not..........
Turnbull Stakes, The ol' Craiglee Stakes and the Herbert Power over the years has also been a good early pointers - Efficient is back and on target for another tilt - Vigor did look the goods in the Craiglee and that Alcipop did win well yesterday - but they will all perform in other lead ups to the big one (Caulfield, Moonee Valley, Geelong or even a race on Derby Day......)
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
I agree with your "rule of thumb" comments, RT. I think Efficient, Viewed and Alcopop have been the most impressive so far, but maybe one of the overseas arrivals will be a real chance this year. I'm stunned after Precedence's bad run. :
I agree with your "rule of thumb" comments, RT. I think Efficient, Viewed and Alcopop have been the most impressive so far, but maybe one of the overseas arrivals will be a real chance this year. I'm stunned after Precedence's bad run. :
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Good to see tall poppy syndrome alive & well on PRE.
They've been waiting all spring to nab leysy on this thread.
Going to spec a couple e/w at the Heath today -
race 4 - At the Crease
Race 5 - El Mandon (small)
& in the Guineas - Melito. Will also pay to have a saver on gun trainer Michael Kents My Emotion at a big price.
Also See the field & barrier draw for the Cup is out -
$2.5 million Group 1 BMW Caulfield Cup (2400m)
1 VIEWED Bart Cummings Brad Rawiller 15 57
2 KIRKLEES (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor Kerrin McEvoy 7 56
3 C'EST LA GUERRE (NZ) John Sadler Steven Arnold 13 55.5
4 CIMA DE TRIOMPHE (IRE) Luca Cumani Damien Oliver 11 55.5
5 FIUMICINO (NZ) Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Dwayne Dunn 20 55.5
6 MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) Danny O'Brien Vlad Duric 18 55
7 ROMAN EMPEROR (NZ) Bart Cummings Hugh Bowman 5 54
8 SARRERA Michael Moroney Nicholas Hall 10 54
9 PREDATORY PRICER Paul Murray Steven King 16 53.5
10 RED RULER (NZ) John Sargent Danny Nikolic 14 53.5
11 ZAVITE (NZ) Anthony Cummings Mark Zahra 8 53
12 HARRIS TWEED (NZ) Murray & Bjorn Baker Craig Newitt 2 52.5
13 LIGHT VISION (NZ) Robert Smerdon Luke Nolen 19 52.5
14 DAFFODIL (NZ) Kevin Gray Chris Munce 4 51.5
15 READY TO LIFT Gerald Ryan Glen Boss 12 51.5
16 RED LORD Anthony Cummings Glyn Schofield 3 51.5
17 VIGOR (NZ) Danny O'Brien Corey Brown 22 51
18 ALLEZ WONDER Bart Cummings Michelle Payne 6 50
19e BAUGHURST Bill & Symon Wilde 21 52.5
20e SHOCKING Mark Kavanagh 17 51
21e NEWPORT Paul Perry Peter Wells 1 52.5
22e MISS DARCEY Anthony Cummings 9 50
Getting keener & keener on the two imports Kirklees & Cima de Triomphe after that.
Good to see tall poppy syndrome alive & well on PRE.
They've been waiting all spring to nab leysy on this thread.
Going to spec a couple e/w at the Heath today -
race 4 - At the Crease
Race 5 - El Mandon (small)
& in the Guineas - Melito. Will also pay to have a saver on gun trainer Michael Kents My Emotion at a big price.
Also See the field & barrier draw for the Cup is out -
$2.5 million Group 1 BMW Caulfield Cup (2400m)
1 VIEWED Bart Cummings Brad Rawiller 15 57
2 KIRKLEES (IRE) Saeed Bin Suroor Kerrin McEvoy 7 56
3 C'EST LA GUERRE (NZ) John Sadler Steven Arnold 13 55.5
4 CIMA DE TRIOMPHE (IRE) Luca Cumani Damien Oliver 11 55.5
5 FIUMICINO (NZ) Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes Dwayne Dunn 20 55.5
6 MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) Danny O'Brien Vlad Duric 18 55
7 ROMAN EMPEROR (NZ) Bart Cummings Hugh Bowman 5 54
8 SARRERA Michael Moroney Nicholas Hall 10 54
9 PREDATORY PRICER Paul Murray Steven King 16 53.5
10 RED RULER (NZ) John Sargent Danny Nikolic 14 53.5
11 ZAVITE (NZ) Anthony Cummings Mark Zahra 8 53
12 HARRIS TWEED (NZ) Murray & Bjorn Baker Craig Newitt 2 52.5
13 LIGHT VISION (NZ) Robert Smerdon Luke Nolen 19 52.5
14 DAFFODIL (NZ) Kevin Gray Chris Munce 4 51.5
15 READY TO LIFT Gerald Ryan Glen Boss 12 51.5
16 RED LORD Anthony Cummings Glyn Schofield 3 51.5
17 VIGOR (NZ) Danny O'Brien Corey Brown 22 51
18 ALLEZ WONDER Bart Cummings Michelle Payne 6 50
19e BAUGHURST Bill & Symon Wilde 21 52.5
20e SHOCKING Mark Kavanagh 17 51
21e NEWPORT Paul Perry Peter Wells 1 52.5
22e MISS DARCEY Anthony Cummings 9 50
Getting keener & keener on the two imports Kirklees & Cima de Triomphe after that.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
I agree Kirklees and Cima de Triomphe will take beating. Vigor has drawn the carpark but I think he'll run his usual honest race. He's been checked at his last two runs.
I agree Kirklees and Cima de Triomphe will take beating. Vigor has drawn the carpark but I think he'll run his usual honest race. He's been checked at his last two runs.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Ok lads, let's see if I can do this.
In the Carsales classic get on Purple each way but if you've got the extra readies don't look past Clandon.
And in the last O'Tobefamous each way is a beauty.
Good punting lads!
Ok lads, let's see if I can do this.
In the Carsales classic get on Purple each way but if you've got the extra readies don't look past Clandon.
And in the last O'Tobefamous each way is a beauty.
Good punting lads!
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
I think Lamarr will go close in the carsales.com.au Classic.
I think Lamarr will go close in the carsales.com.au Classic.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
Leysy's has a 2nd & 3rd e/w so no damage done.
On the Carsales. Tough race. Prima Nova e/w at odds maybe. One of us should get it.
Mate, Good horse. The barrier really worries leysy. reckon he more than nearly every other needed to draw well.
He's a Bull who hasn't been settling properly all campaign whilst still running very well. If they give him a dig to use his tactical speed leysy doubts he will come back underneath King & settle. It will quell his finish if he does. He may have to go back & come late.
But His forms certainly up to it & is well weighted for a horse running well at WFA so dont let leysy talk you out of it if you like it.
Leysy's has a 2nd & 3rd e/w so no damage done.
On the Carsales. Tough race. Prima Nova e/w at odds maybe. One of us should get it.
mk33 said:
Mate, Good horse. The barrier really worries leysy. reckon he more than nearly every other needed to draw well.
He's a Bull who hasn't been settling properly all campaign whilst still running very well. If they give him a dig to use his tactical speed leysy doubts he will come back underneath King & settle. It will quell his finish if he does. He may have to go back & come late.
But His forms certainly up to it & is well weighted for a horse running well at WFA so dont let leysy talk you out of it if you like it.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
I like O'Tobefamous each-way as well. Should enjoy the 2000m. My only bet of the day.
tigertim said:
I like O'Tobefamous each-way as well. Should enjoy the 2000m. My only bet of the day.
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
So be it, indeed.
Wonder when this carnival is going to turn for me?
tigertim said:
So be it, indeed.
Wonder when this carnival is going to turn for me?
Re: Thoroughbred Horse Racing [Merged]
CC can be a bit of a farce with only half the field out to win it. Looks a very tough year to pick the winner.
If C'est Le Guerre is trying i reckon he'll win it. Also, if Shocking can sneak a run he has to be a huge chance... I've watched the Herbert Power a dozen times, and if you take Alcopop out of it Shocking demolished the rest... he would've been installed favourite for the CC in those hypothetical circumstances. But instead he looms as a 20-1 shot.
In terms of the speed map... I would've thought that Zavite would be certain to lead with Fiumicino moving across to sit outside him with Light Vision and potentially Vigor trying to get the drop on them both. Leysy is bang on the money regarding Predatory Pricer, he has raced fiercely pretty much all campaign and his only convincing finish was when he was snagged back first up over 1400 at Caulfield. Should settle back in the field on Saturday.
Anyone know anything about the racing patterns from these internationals (I include Daffodil and Harris Tweed in that) ?
CC can be a bit of a farce with only half the field out to win it. Looks a very tough year to pick the winner.
If C'est Le Guerre is trying i reckon he'll win it. Also, if Shocking can sneak a run he has to be a huge chance... I've watched the Herbert Power a dozen times, and if you take Alcopop out of it Shocking demolished the rest... he would've been installed favourite for the CC in those hypothetical circumstances. But instead he looms as a 20-1 shot.
In terms of the speed map... I would've thought that Zavite would be certain to lead with Fiumicino moving across to sit outside him with Light Vision and potentially Vigor trying to get the drop on them both. Leysy is bang on the money regarding Predatory Pricer, he has raced fiercely pretty much all campaign and his only convincing finish was when he was snagged back first up over 1400 at Caulfield. Should settle back in the field on Saturday.
Anyone know anything about the racing patterns from these internationals (I include Daffodil and Harris Tweed in that) ?
