Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins
AstuteTiger said:
it is for some, look im more in nature as a positive person always looking for the best outcome but i tell ya ive had enough of not playing finals year after year missing out, watching the finals series without us playing, i go every week and i just hate losing all the time...Something has to give and late season wins will not benefit us...
Imagine pic 1 deledio and pic 2 Cotchin and priority pic 18 rance not coming our way, meaning we made a charge at seasons end and won enough games to move us up the ladder but also move us up the pecking order of the draft....no doubt those 3 would not be at punt road now, sure u can find good players later in the draft but u dont find quality like a deledio or a cotchin or a gibbs or Kreuzer or Cooney at pic 6 or 7 onwards (yep cats lucky with Joel Selwood but clubs wont make that mistake again).
Theres a real chance here to enhance the list, 3 pics within the top 20 is something that we wont see for perhaps another 5 years, ahh some say whats 1 pic, well one pic could be a A.Selwood, a pears, a callan ward etc, in our position we should not be discounting even 1 player to help our player ranks...
We do have some real talent coming through but can u imagine adding to this with 'early" pics in this coming draft, it will be the last for a while.
theres nothing that isnt positive in your stance on this issue. its perception you have an outlook and system that enables the club to have the best possible chance of improving its playing stocks and ultimately its chances of playing finals. nothing negative about that at all you have a feel for what has to be done it may be a recognition of where the list is at but its a positive that you see what is wrong and you see we need to go thru some pain. if the club never comes to terms with this it will never improve how big a negative is that.
the cost of not realising where we are at and what needs to be done has cost us enormously, no more. we cant keep on making the same mistake over and over.
how long should wallace have been allowed to try and make finals with the oldies one yr two yrs surely no more than two.
at the end of 06 the list overhaul should have begun and it should have continued thru to this day.
there was no excuse or justification for wallace and just as importantly the footy dept and the board to continue down the path wallace set out on. someone at that club had to draw a line in the sand and say no its time to adopt a full on rebuild strategy and go into it.
its never happened.
even if you gave wallace 3 yrs to make finals with the oldies a spoon at the end of 07 surely meant someone would say enough.
they are all guilty they all need to put their hand up and say yep i got this wrong and by crickey im going to learn from it and never allow it to happen again. the question i have to ask is this happenenig.
if we had gone into tank at the end of 07 and prioritised kids we would be looking at 2007 picks 2 18 19 35 51 67 psd pick 2. 6 rookies.
with bottoming out a priority 2008 would have gone picks 1 3 19 35 51 67 psd pick 2 or 3.. with what has happened this yr we should have been aiming at pick 1 pick 4 20 36 52 68 and psd pick 2.
we have had the opportunity but refused to go thru the process. we continue to refuse to go thru the process.
if we had bit the bullet since 2007 we could have had something like this 2 cotchin, 18 rance, 19 selwood. 1 watts 3 rich 19 post and this yr 1, 4, 20, if as a club we had the honesty balls and integrity to call it as it is and the fortitude to do the hard yards we would be on the way to sustained finals finals exploits in two yrs time. instead we now have to go thru another rebuild in an ad hock way and hope rather than plan we get very good or elite players. just look at the cost not bottoming out has killed us not utiliseing the system properly has killed us.
if people want sustained success and that does not neccesarily mean a premiership they had better get their heads around the way the current system works. we cant have our cake and eat it to. go without the cake and you will get something better down the track. eat it now and stay mired in mediocrity.
