geoffryprettyboy said:
of course - how do you know Hardwick, Scott, Richardson, or Hinkley are not a better candidate?
your type of thinking (give it to the guy with the big name) got us Wallace
we need to review ALL candidates properly this time
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The Official "RFC Coaching Position" Discussion Thread
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of course - how do you know Hardwick, Scott, Richardson, or Hinkley are not a better candidate?
your type of thinking (give it to the guy with the big name) got us Wallace
we need to review ALL candidates properly this time
Tiger74 said:
Agree, candidates need to reviewed by our proctologist.
Malthouse can conduct his own process and find the club as a basket case compared to Collingwood. He is more qualified than your candidates you have mentioned.
An embarrasment for the club if they put Malthouse through a process.
settle petal. Mick needs to do no such thing, and wallace is a *smile* coach!!Tiger74 said:
imagine this.....
"mr ferguson, pls fill out this form" "yae canna stik the fooorrrm up your rse!!"
geoffryprettyboy said:
how do you know though?
Ayres, Wallace, and Eade were the best candidates for the Hawks job, but Clarko got the gig.
Hardwick was a lock for the Essendon job, Knights was the polite invite because he coached Bendigo so you at least have to listen to him.
Likewise Longmire, Bond, and one other (forget who) were the three fighting out the Saints gig, but the absolute outsider in Lyon won (and he only made the short list because Walls recommended him).
I want a full review of all candidates because the above shows you get a better outcome than relying on the media spin
Don't worry T74, Malthouse will not be coming to Punt Road.
Last time around when we had a selection committee they went for Wallace. Wallace failed miserably and the club came out and said they didn't conduct a thorough process. What's to say this time around it's going to be right? What is right and what is wrong? There is no process that is rock solid or fool proof. It comes down to recruiting, it comes down to development and so forth. I'm still waiting for them to complete Craigieburn, I'm still waiting for them to stick a shovel in the dirt at Punt Road and start redeveloping. Carlton and North are nearly finished theirs and we were first to announce it before those two.
The club needs to grow a spine and some balls and headhunt Malthouse and go guns blazing after him and put him through the 'process' to make people like you happy.
Last time around when we had a selection committee they went for Wallace. Wallace failed miserably and the club came out and said they didn't conduct a thorough process. What's to say this time around it's going to be right? What is right and what is wrong? There is no process that is rock solid or fool proof. It comes down to recruiting, it comes down to development and so forth. I'm still waiting for them to complete Craigieburn, I'm still waiting for them to stick a shovel in the dirt at Punt Road and start redeveloping. Carlton and North are nearly finished theirs and we were first to announce it before those two.
The club needs to grow a spine and some balls and headhunt Malthouse and go guns blazing after him and put him through the 'process' to make people like you happy.
geoffryprettyboy said:
agree with the first part - Malthouse is just pulling a Sheeds trying to get the Pies to bite. I'd love to have Malthouse, but I don't think he'll leave
on the rest, we have never done a proper review, and it worked well for the Hawks, Dons, and Saints. Last time our "committee" was Casey and Miller and that is hardly a thorough review
going half cocked over the available coaching options is what we have done again and again and again (except in the years when no-one answered our phone, and we were stuck with Geisch and Spud) - lets act like professionals and make sure we pick the best available candidate now we have a list of 10+ applying (and most are quality)
Take the blinkers off. Last time we never did it right, last time we had Casey, Miller, last time we had Frawley, last time we had Geisch, last time Daphne, they have all made mistakes. No process is right or wrong. I hope they get it right this time around.
North aren't stupid for making every effort to recruit a professional in Bucks, that's why the the RFC needs to snatch Mick from under McGuires nose.
North aren't stupid for making every effort to recruit a professional in Bucks, that's why the the RFC needs to snatch Mick from under McGuires nose.
geoffryprettyboy said:
Don't be too sure about that. One thing (amongst others) I give credit to Buckley for is his insistance all the way through that his coaching aspirations will not be played out through the media. D!ckheads like Hutchy have to speculate because there is newspaper space to fill, radio air time to fill, television showtime to fill.
Assuming Collingwood don't move Malthouse, Buckley's options are obvious. I still maintain our coaching gig is far more attractive than North's (and their desparate behaviour confirms this). So if Buckley wants to coach at senior level next year, there is no need for RFC to bend over backwards for him, other than to indicate our real interest in him. My money's on him as our next coach.
geoffryprettyboy said:
North have other reasons to chase Bucks, they need a media star to rebuild their club. This is much higher stakes for them off-field than it is for us on-field, and if their gamble doesn't work..... :-\
Tiger74 said:
No amount of spin doctoring will save the Kangawho's. They should have taken the GC carrot. Why on earth would someone like Buckley waste their time with those no-hopers? Just read James Hird's article in the HS last week and you'll get the answer.
Agree totally.Tiger74 said:
Sheeds got stale at Esserdum so Esserdum finally changed it's jocks and got Knighter.
Sheeds failed at the selection process for Melb. Yet some wanted him paraded into the Tigers job.
MnM under pressure from Figgy looming is coaching his arse off at Scumwood, has the strut and intensity ramped up to the maximum.
I've got a sneaky feeling in my waters that this may be MnM's last big shot at premiership coaching glory. This year and maybe next just might snuff the fire burning regardless of final result.
I would hate to grab MnM without a rigorous interview process and find he's deflated and just going through the motions like Blighty at the Aints.
I actually like MM, but my big concern with him is after having coached at two of the AFL's richest clubs, and being gifted resources to burn, can he thrive in an environment that is a fair degree behind that? Granted the days of running off the fumes of an oily rag are behind us, but we don't have annual trips to Arizona, altitude chambers, and assistant coaches coming out your backside.
Alot of people are warming to Jade Rawlings.
While I am impressed with what he has done, for me he is just a little too inexperienced.
Buckley would be my number one candidate (yes he doesn't have any experience as a coach but I believe he would be an exceptional tactician and developer of youth), but it is looking more and more that he will be going back to the mugpies.
I think Hardwick should be next in line, unless Malthouse walks out on the wobbles.
Gees I wish this season would hurry up and finish.
Put me out of my bloody misery please!
While I am impressed with what he has done, for me he is just a little too inexperienced.
Buckley would be my number one candidate (yes he doesn't have any experience as a coach but I believe he would be an exceptional tactician and developer of youth), but it is looking more and more that he will be going back to the mugpies.
I think Hardwick should be next in line, unless Malthouse walks out on the wobbles.
Gees I wish this season would hurry up and finish.
Put me out of my bloody misery please!
I think Hardwick as senior coach with mentoring/guidance from Sheedy would be worth considering. A mixture of both young & old, both have been successful as players & coaches and have considerable experiences to draw upon. Would be a good balance.
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Lets give Jade a bit more time while the "process" continues. I have seen major improvement in just a few weeks. A lot will be put off by the previous "unleash the geish" experience, but I see a lot is different now. The parallel is Knighter - developed the Bendigo Bombers list. Also compare Coburg under Rawlings versus McRae. Next week or two will tell us a lot, so people, keep an open mind !!
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tigerjoe said:
Lets give Jade a bit more time while the "process" continues. I have seen major improvement in just a few weeks. A lot will be put off by the previous "unleash the geish" experience, but I see a lot is different now. The parallel is Knighter - developed the Bendigo Bombers list. Also compare Coburg under Rawlings versus McRae. Next week or two will tell us a lot, so people, keep an open mind !!
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TigerMasochist said:
Agree, a Guantanamo Bay type interview process wouldn't go astray at Punt Road to weed out the pretenders.
Would be keen to hear views on whether it would make sense to go for a lesser known head coach (who we obviously will pay less) and put the savings into player development which has sorely been lacking in recent years... It would be great to be able to do both but we don't have the resources of a Collingwood or Adelaide at our disposal.
