The Official "RFC Coaching Position" Discussion Thread

[Mr Brightside]

Some interesting discussion on Mark Doran's show today (did I just say that? ???)

- Heard Buckley was offered VFL job (I find this laughable myself if true)

- Eddie denied it and said "nothing was happening" it will in due course..(sounded SUPER irritable)

- Gary pert would not comment. However another rumour is all of collingwoods football department is out of contract this year other than Geoff walsh they later found out. Gary did say not all were out of contract (was he playing with words and referring to Geoff or is that a indication there is a very minimum amount not out of contract, the conspiracy theory being colonscum were preparing for a clean of house/coach this year in ushering Buckley in. Of course Malthouses recent success might have made that hard or changed their mind)

- Daicos was on and the two discussed Buckley was not out of running for the Tiges job by any stretch and intimated he might be intrigued/interested in our job because of the fact we are so strong on a process and he likes that aspect of being compared and going through a professional system and both parties can really pick each other apart in such a process. (Interesting thought that I am not sure was pure speculation or something the two or one of them had a inkling of)

- Doran loosely mentioned having a few interesting discussions in the last few days and all the while kept putting Buckley back in the frame for our job or not ruling it out, even strongly stating he wasn't ruled out for it yet.

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Nothing earth shattering but some interesting thoughts there.

Personally I've heard Malthouse met with Collingwood heavyweights with his manager last week and not sure why that would be the case if he was being told not required.

Who knows but I really think Bucks is a strong chance to go through our process myself, it's all about whether he will take a easy/safe offer from North I believe.

I've heard some say he stands to loose a lot if he went through our process but got knocked back but a) if he thinks like that we don't want him and b) he can always shrug his shoulders and say, "Meh, that's Richmond, when did they last get a process right?" >

Make no mistake, if Bucks doesn't get a senior job, whether he applies for one fully or not, he will have at least 3 lucrative assistant coach offers on his desk by the end of the season.
s R

Thanks for that Double Diamond, some reson couldnt pick up SEN today :spin

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

I bet he would end up at Hawthorn or WCE as an Assistant (or possibly another club, but my money would be on either of them).

I believe Kennett may have ruled this out as he doesn't want NB learning all the Hawks' secrets then leaving after a year.

 

[GoodOne]

I believe Kennett may have ruled this out as he doesn't want NB learning all the Hawks' secrets then leaving after a year.

Kennett's never kept a secret in his life.

 

[thisistigerland]

Anyone know when/where the Lynch & Brown articles are as I would like to read them, I saw the Hird one.

This is the Lynch one from the Courier. Im still trying to find the Brown article on google, but I did read it.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25800835-10389,00.html

 

[Smoking Aces]

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This is the Lynch one from the Courier. Im still trying to find the Brown article on google, but I did read it.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25800835-10389,00.html

There are few reporters jumping on the Tiger bandwagon. I wonder if Buckley is reading their articles and taking note.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

I believe Kennett may have ruled this out as he doesn't want NB learning all the Hawks' secrets then leaving after a year.

:rofl

That man cracks me up.

This is the Lynch one from the Courier. Im still trying to find the Brown article on google, but I did read it.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25800835-10389,00.html

Very much appreciated, cheers mate.

 

[Ian4]

This is the Lynch one from the Courier. Im still trying to find the Brown article on google, but I did read it.
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25800835-10389,00.html

good article :fing32

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Hmmm if the rumours are true my interest in Buckley being part of the process is rapidly dropping.

If Crutchy is accurate he is tossing up betyween North and Collingwood and he wants assurance that in 2 years he will be given the top job at Collingwood.

If we know that as fact I would be putting a big red line through his name and moving on. Buckley was only ever attractive if he was hungry to be challenged by our position, if he wants a job on a silver platter like at North or wants to stay in collscum land, a big pass thanks.

I suspect Malthouse will take a 2 year extension regardless of what happens with Buckley. Ah well, on with the process, less with the circus.

 

[Tiger74]

Hmmm if the rumours are true my interest in Buckley being part of the process is rapidly dropping.

If Crutchy is accurate he is tossing up betyween North and Collingwood and he wants assurance that in 2 years he will be given the top job at Collingwood.

If we know that as fact I would be putting a big red line through his name and moving on. Buckley was only ever attractive if he was hungry to be challenged by our position, if he wants a job on a silver platter like at North or wants to stay in collscum land, a big pass thanks.

I suspect Malthouse will take a 2 year extension regardless of what happens with Buckley. Ah well, on with the process, less with the circus.

agree. for all those who said he would want the process because he loves to be challenged, IF the rumours are right, its his ego and the want to be guaranteed the win is getting priority here.

 

[TOT70]

This is getting interesting now.

Buckely to North looks like it might be falling off the agenda. Buckley to the Northlands Magpies as an assistant is looking more likely. His mate, Brenton Sanderson might find himself back at Northland next year as well.

I wonder how Mick Malthouse feels about this? I wonder how Brad Scott, Mark Neeld, Blake Caracella and Gavin Brown are feeling? There's nothing quite like having a new anointed one and his hotshot-offsider around the place. The danish pastries at those early morning meetings just don't taste as good any more, esp when you have to listen to their crap all the time.

I reckon the pool of potential coaches and even assistants has just got a little bigger.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

This is getting interesting now.

Buckely to North looks like it might be falling off the agenda. Buckley to the Northlands Magpies as an assistant is looking more likely. His mate, Brenton Sanderson might find himself back at Northland next year as well.

I wonder how Mick Malthouse feels about this? I wonder how Brad Scott, Mark Neeld, Blake Caracella and Gavin Brown are feeling? There's nothing quite like having a new anointed one and his hotshot-offsider around the place. The danish pastries at those early morning meetings just don't taste as good any more, esp when you have to listen to their crap all the time.

I reckon the pool of potential coaches and even assistants has just got a little bigger.

Of the Rookies we are very keen on this bloke

 

[Baloo]

Also agree. he would have had far more respect from me, and I'm sure many others following the AFL if he allowed himself to go through a thorough process. Even if not successful I think he would have learnt a lot about what he needed to improve on.

But in saying that, I can understand the temptation of the two birds in hand especially if they are paying significantly more than the unguaranteed process role. I'd like to think RFC would have indicated our proposed salary for an untried coach to be about half of what North have reportedly offered. if that is the case then it makes Bucks' decision easier to understand.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Of the Rookies we are very keen on this bloke

For good reason.

Also agree. he would have had far more respect from me, and I'm sure many others following the AFL if he allowed himself to go through a thorough process. Even if not successful I think he would have learnt a lot about what he needed to improve on.

But in saying that, I can understand the temptation of the two birds in hand especially if they are paying significantly more than the unguaranteed process role. I'd like to think RFC would have indicated our proposed salary for an untried coach to be about half of what North have reportedly offered. if that is the case then it makes Bucks' decision easier to understand.

Well put. All I care about though is our prospective. >

We have to be single minded in our pursuit for someone HUNGRY for the CHALLENGE of making the Tigers great again, we need someone who brings substantial Intellectual Property and a great team/contacts with him.

If that's not Buckley we should move on in a heartbeat. Plenty of well credentialled *coughs*better*coughs* alternatives for us.

 

[MalenyTiger]

In my work we have a saying "If you have a good process you will more often than not get a good outcome". The RFC has chosen a process (hopefully it is a good one) and it looks like they're sticking to it. If they persist they will get a good outcome, whoever it is.
Personally I dont understand what all the fuss is about with Buckley (he is actually unproven as a coach at ANY level). i think it is a huge risk for any team to take him. Would be far happier with someone who has done the hard yards and knows the coaching caper from a bit of real experience, not analysing from a media box.

 

[TOT70]

In my work we have a saying "If you have a good process you will more often than not get a good outcome". The RFC has chosen a process (hopefully it is a good one) and it looks like they're sticking to it. If they persist they will get a good outcome, whoever it is.
Personally I dont understand what all the fuss is about with Buckley (he is actually unproven as a coach at ANY level). i think it is a huge risk for any team to take him. Would be far happier with someone who has done the hard yards and knows the coaching caper from a bit of real experience, not analysing from a media box.

Sometimes people stand out from the pack though. Buckley is one of those. It is still no guarantee of success. The bright, shiny light could end up burning for the longest time or it could blaze fiercely and burn out quickly.

Our club needs experience, esp winning experience, more than it needs anything else.

Buckley has his own agenda and is pursuing it very skilfully. His advisers have their own agenda as well and will keep him on the track that they want him to go on. At this stage, it is clear what he wants and he has established a fine Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement. He will force Collingwood's hand, in the end.

Best to leave him to it.

 

[Freezer]

Hmmm if the rumours are true my interest in Buckley being part of the process is rapidly dropping.

If Crutchy is accurate he is tossing up betyween North and Collingwood and he wants assurance that in 2 years he will be given the top job at Collingwood.

If we know that as fact I would be putting a big red line through his name and moving on. Buckley was only ever attractive if he was hungry to be challenged by our position, if he wants a job on a silver platter like at North or wants to stay in collscum land, a big pass thanks.

I suspect Malthouse will take a 2 year extension regardless of what happens with Buckley. Ah well, on with the process, less with the circus.

Absolutely. My heels have cooled on Buckley big time.

I'm liking the idea of a coach without the baggage - Hardwick, Tudor, Rawlings, Scott, et al, will hopefully present good cases and leave us with someone who actually wants to coach us and not feather his own nest.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

My personal opinion is the RFC has not chased Buckley hard enough, North got on the front foot and pushed the process book aside to chase Bucks, we did not make enough noise. Now that Bucks is out of the equation the RFC needs to grow a spine and call Malthouse over and entice him back to Punt Road with a 4 year deal.

 

[Tiger74]

My personal opinion is the RFC has not chased Buckley hard enough, North got on the front foot and pushed the process book aside to chase Bucks, we did not make enough noise. Now that Bucks is out of the equation the RFC needs to grow a spine and call Malthouse over and entice him back to Punt Road with a 4 year deal.

if Malthouse wants to go through our interview process only

we need the best available coach, not the one you and Mike Sheehan tell us is best, and you can only find this out through proper analysis of the candidates

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

if Malthouse wants to go through our interview process only

we need the best available coach, not the one you and Mike Sheehan tell us is best, and you can only find this out through proper analysis of the candidates

Are you for real? Malthouse to go through the process? LMFAO.

 

[mb64]

My personal opinion is the RFC has not chased Buckley hard enough, North got on the front foot and pushed the process book aside to chase Bucks, we did not make enough noise. Now that Bucks is out of the equation the RFC needs to grow a spine and call Malthouse over and entice him back to Punt Road with a 4 year deal.

Would be happy with that