The Official "RFC Coaching Position" Discussion Thread

[TigerMasochist]

Unsure what the North process is though Percies!

Figgy is still trying to find a calculator big enough to count North's process.
Saw him the other day at Komatsu getting a quote on a front end loader to help him shovel up the loot.

 

[Ian4]

Bucks mentioned tonight in 3AW that he is going through the North and RFC processes.

Unsure what the North process is though Percies!

get down on your knees and beg for bucks :hihi

 

[btoz_01]

North has a process?
I thought they just keep throwing money at Buck$ till he says yes.

 

[momentai]

Bucks also mentioned in response to a Tiger supporter that he had no contol over the (RFC) process.
Never surer that Eddie is squirming bigtime and that unless Collingwood offer him the pie job Bucks will be a Tiger. ;D

 

[Freezer]

No doubt there's an element of nervousness from Bucks. Don't really think he wants to go to the Pies as an assistant but it's always there to fall back on.

It doesn't seem he really wants to coach North, but he has to guage how he's going with the Tigers before he tells them yes or no. I reckon the spanner in Buckley's works is how stringent we're being with our process.

And good on us I say!

 

[TigerPaul.71]

No doubt there's an element of nervousness from Bucks. Don't really think he wants to go to the Pies as an assistant but it's always there to fall back on.

It doesn't seem he really wants to coach North, but he has to guage how he's going with the Tigers before he tells them yes or no. I reckon the spanner in Buckley's works is how stringent we're being with our process.

And good on us I say!

Yes good on us :clap :clap
We need to do this right and make sure we tick the right boxes

 

[Ian4]

if i can just change tack for one minute... prior to this coaching position being advertised, the club did allegedly undergo a review of the footy department. there have been all sorts of discussions in regards to what coaching structure we should adopt moving forward. one we have discussed and one i believe has merit, is to employ a director of coaching... but i'm gonna go on another tangent here by suggesting something else...

would we at all consider thinking outside the square by employing a coach from another sport or another code of football? It has been done before with Charlie Walsh at Adelaide and Ric Charlesworth at Fremantle, although im thinking we should consider someone from a sport that would help us tactically and technically as per examples below:

Tactically: a lot of modern footy incorporates tactics such as zoning, flooding, maintaining posseson, etc, which has a lot of similarities to soccer. would we benefit by considering employing a former soccer coach as an assistant? someone like Gary Van Egmond? GVE has a reputation of being a very good tactical soccer coach, and he won the A-League championship at Newcastle 18 months ago. he resigned last month to fill a position at the AIS that has since fallen through... so he's available.

Technically: one of our biggest deficiencies is tackling. should we also seriously consider employing a former rugby league player as tackling coach? someone like Melbourne Storn assistant Stephen Kearny or Matthew Johns? i'm not talking about a one off training session, but an ongoing position. It is interesting to note that rugby league has been employing former AFL players as skills coaches. I believe Troy Luff has been at Manly for years.

Sidenote: Apparently Lindsay Gaze is part of our coaching sub-committee. i'm sure it's more of a consulting role, but an interesting choice as some would argue basketball tactics have some similarities to modern footy...

 

[Uncle]

When I first heard Laidley would be meeting with The RFC I automatically thought perfect right hand man for Buckley a'la Voss & Britton.
But seeing Ken Hinkley & Leigh Tudor both in the running I salivate at the thought of what these two lower profiled candidates could do if both were appointed.
I really dont think Bomber Thompson got Geelong to where they are now by himself.

 

[thisistigerland]

I am trying to be objective here, however, I find it absurd (as reported in the media) that North is the more favoured club for Buckley. That club is a basket case off the field and live on AFL handouts. What is the appeal over us? Yes I know our last 30 years have been atrocious but the thought of coaching a powerhouse like the RFC should clearly be more appealing than North (i.e read articles by Lynch, J.Brown, Hird et al).

I think North have handled this cleverly. They were aware we were going to stick to this rigid process and have got on the front foot and said the job is yours - get back to us in a week. They know Buckley can knock the job back however, Buckley is no certainty to land the job at punt road if he goes through with the process. If you were Buckley would you take take the job that has been handed to you or take the risk getting the richmond job. I wonder what Norths position would be if Buckley rejected their initial offer and then missed out on the richmond job. Would the north job still be Buckley's.

For mine, if we can not land Buckley, leave Jade in the chair for 2 years.

 

[Ripplestick]

For mine, if we can not land Buckley, leave Jade in the chair for 2 years.

The lack of structure and gameplan in the St Kilda game rang massive warning bells for me in terms of Rawlings being coach.

The capitulation on the weekend against the Roos didnt help either.

Happy for Jade to go back to Coburg, would much prefer Alan Richardson or Brad Scott.

 

[hutstar]

if i can just change tack for one minute... prior to this coaching position being advertised, the club did allegedly undergo a review of the footy department. there have been all sorts of discussions in regards to what coaching structure we should adopt moving forward. one we have discussed and one i believe has merit, is to employ a director of coaching... but i'm gonna go on another tangent here by suggesting something else...

would we at all consider thinking outside the square by employing a coach from another sport or another code of football? It has been done before with Charlie Walsh at Adelaide and Ric Charlesworth at Fremantle, although im thinking we should consider someone from a sport that would help us tactically and technically as per examples below:

Tactically: a lot of modern footy incorporates tactics such as zoning, flooding, maintaining posseson, etc, which has a lot of similarities to soccer. would we benefit by considering employing a former soccer coach as an assistant? someone like Gary Van Egmond? GVE has a reputation of being a very good tactical soccer coach, and he won the A-League championship at Newcastle 18 months ago. he resigned last month to fill a position at the AIS that has since fallen through... so he's available.

Technically: one of our biggest deficiencies is tackling. should we also seriously consider employing a former rugby league player as tackling coach? someone like Melbourne Storn assistant Stephen Kearny or Matthew Johns? i'm not talking about a one off training session, but an ongoing position. It is interesting to note that rugby league has been employing former AFL players as skills coaches. I believe Troy Luff has been at Manly for years.

Sidenote: Apparently Lindsay Gaze is part of our coaching sub-committee. i'm sure it's more of a consulting role, but an interesting choice as some would argue basketball tactics have some similarities to modern footy...

Great suggestion this one and a top post there mate. Why not, especially if there are good people available. Hopefully the new coach gives all options some thought.

 

[davidrodan]

I am trying to be objective here, however, I find it absurd (as reported in the media) that North is the more favoured club for Buckley. That club is a basket case off the field and live on AFL handouts. What is the appeal over us? Yes I know our last 30 years have been atrocious but the thought of coaching a powerhouse like the RFC should clearly be more appealing than North (i.e read articles by Lynch, J.Brown, Hird et al).

I think North have handled this cleverly. They were aware we were going to stick to this rigid process and have got on the front foot and said the job is yours - get back to us in a week. They know Buckley can knock the job back however, Buckley is no certainty to land the job at punt road if he goes through with the process. If you were Buckley would you take take the job that has been handed to you or take the risk getting the richmond job. I wonder what Norths position would be if Buckley rejected their initial offer and then missed out on the richmond job. Would the north job still be Buckley's.

For mine, if we can not land Buckley, leave Jade in the chair for 2 years.

I think your second part might be the answer to the first

The idea of Figgy being favoured to go to North might be more bout the ease of getting the job rather than the better list/club/finances etc.

 

[IanG]

I think North have handled this cleverly. They were aware we were going to stick to this rigid process and have got on the front foot and said the job is yours - get back to us in a week. They know Buckley can knock the job back however, Buckley is no certainty to land the job at punt road if he goes through with the process. If you were Buckley would you take take the job that has been handed to you or take the risk getting the richmond job.

The thing is though he will always have the Collingwood option to fall back on if he doesn't get the Richmond job. He really can't lose.

Re North they won't look too clever if Buckley rejects them.

 

[WesternTiger]

Reported on SEN that Bucks has been offered the coaching job of Collingwoods VFL side for next year.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Yes I know our last 30 years have been atrocious but the thought of coaching a powerhouse like the RFC should clearly be more appealing than North (i.e read articles by Lynch, J.Brown, Hird et al).

Anyone know when/where the Lynch & Brown articles are as I would like to read them, I saw the Hird one.

The thing is though he will always have the Collingwood option to fall back on if he doesn't get the Richmond job. He really can't lose.

Re North they won't look too clever if Buckley rejects them.

I see it similar. The way I see it, from day one, Buckley is in the driver seat here. Not only does he have the Collingwood assistant position to fall back on reportedly, but also offers from WCE and Hawthorn as an assistant I have heard.

I can still see him in yellow and black myself.

Reported on SEN that Bucks has been offered the coaching job of Collingwoods VFL side for next year.

That would be a bad move, I'd laugh if Collingwood accepted him that.

 

[davidrodan]

Reported on SEN that Bucks has been offered the coaching job of Collingwoods VFL side for next year.

Eddie's starting to look like North

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Some interesting discussion on Mark Doran's show today (did I just say that? ???)

- Heard Buckley was offered VFL job (I find this laughable myself if true)

- Eddie denied it and said "nothing was happening" it will in due course..(sounded SUPER irritable)

- Gary pert would not comment. However another rumour is all of collingwoods football department is out of contract this year other than Geoff walsh they later found out. Gary did say not all were out of contract (was he playing with words and referring to Geoff or is that a indication there is a very minimum amount not out of contract, the conspiracy theory being colonscum were preparing for a clean of house/coach this year in ushering Buckley in. Of course Malthouses recent success might have made that hard or changed their mind)

- Daicos was on and the two discussed Buckley was not out of running for the Tiges job by any stretch and intimated he might be intrigued/interested in our job because of the fact we are so strong on a process and he likes that aspect of being compared and going through a professional system and both parties can really pick each other apart in such a process. (Interesting thought that I am not sure was pure speculation or something the two or one of them had a inkling of)

- Doran loosely mentioned having a few interesting discussions in the last few days and all the while kept putting Buckley back in the frame for our job or not ruling it out, even strongly stating he wasn't ruled out for it yet.

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Nothing earth shattering but some interesting thoughts there.

Personally I've heard Malthouse met with Collingwood heavyweights with his manager last week and not sure why that would be the case if he was being told not required.

Who knows but I really think Bucks is a strong chance to go through our process myself, it's all about whether he will take a easy/safe offer from North I believe.

I've heard some say he stands to loose a lot if he went through our process but got knocked back but a) if he thinks like that we don't want him and b) he can always shrug his shoulders and say, "Meh, that's Richmond, when did they last get a process right?" >

Make no mistake, if Bucks doesn't get a senior job, whether he applies for one fully or not, he will have at least 3 lucrative assistant coach offers on his desk by the end of the season.
s R

 

[davidrodan]

Some interesting stuff there DD

But my first question to you is
Do you still listen to Doran?

Maybe we should be sounding out some of the Scum staff
Any worth poaching?

 

[IanG]

I've heard some say he stands to loose a lot if he went through our process but got knocked back but a) if he thinks like that we don't want him and b) he can always shrug his shoulders and say, "Meh, that's Richmond, when did they last get a process right?" >

What really does he stand to lose? His rep? That doesn't seem to matter if its only 1 club. Like I said elsewhere he's still got Collingwood to fall back on and he would be coach one day if he went back there.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Some interesting stuff there DD

But my first question to you is
Do you still listen to Doran?

Maybe we should be sounding out some of the Scum staff
Any worth poaching?

Heh Heh was just listening to Doran by accident today. I escaped my cage later than normal today.

In answer to your question I'm a Brad Scott fan, if he didn't make a senior role would like to see someone of his calibre at our club in a assistant role. I've heard he is very sharp on opposition analysis and while he would not come cheap he would be a cheaper option than Laidley and possibly more attainable (if we were looking at a strategic role rather than head coach role I am meaning).

One area I believe our club is VERY poor in, and has been for a long time, that does not get mentioned much on here (as opposed to kicking skills, fitness/conditioning etc etc) is opposition analysis. Other clubs are miles ahead of us on that front and I'd like to see us appoint someone specifically in that role who is elite level at it and not just has is paper inked over a old task in their job description.

What really does he stand to lose? His rep? That doesn't seem to matter if its only 1 club. Like I said elsewhere he's still got Collingwood to fall back on and he would be coach one day if he went back there.

Totally agree, but I bet he wouldn't do that either. I bet he would end up at Hawthorn or WCE as an Assistant (or possibly another club, but my money would be on either of them).