The Official "RFC Coaching Position" Discussion Thread

[Tiger74]

Are things actually close?

If I were on the board/sub-committee, and was asked by Hutchinson or Denham how things are going, I'm sure the party line would be: "It's very close", "Too close to call", "All excellent candidates" etc, etc, even if there was a clear favourite.

It gives the committee/board breathing space should not everything go to plan (e.g., the favourite stays at Geelong, or decides to go to Port), and provides all candidates with credibility.

Although I suspect they are all great candidates, I hope there is one clear best-fit for Tigerland.

So far Denham has been one of the few journo's on the money with this process. While Caro, Sheehan, Hutchy, and co have made a bundle of errors, he's been pretty good. At this stage if he's saying its close, its about as credible a voice as any out there.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Actually I rate Denham in general as having the most accurate information in the mainstream media when it comes to the RFC. He or his paper is generally spot on.

 

[TOT70]

Here's an interesting stat on Hinkley's and Hardwick's Assisstant coaching records.

Geelong 2000 to 2003: Thompson coach, no Hinkley. 89 games for 39 wins and 2 draws, 45% winning record
Geelong 2004-2009 so far: Thompson coach, Hinkley Assistant: 142 games, 100 wins, 1 draw, 70% winning record
HAwthorn 2005-2009 so far: Clardson coach, HArdwick Assistant, 113 games, 56 wins, 49% winning record.

Hawthorn has made finals 2 times, and missed 2 times, with this year another likely miss. One Flag
Geelong has made finals 5 times in Hinkley's 6 years. 1 flag, 1 runners-up.

Is it just coincidence that Geelong became a powerhouse when Hinkley got there?

 

[The Boss]

So essentially, now that the interviews are concluded, for the first time the sub-committee/club know who the next coach will likely be.

For the first time, rumours from here on in will have some weight! What was that the Boss said this morning about Hardwick...

Can tell you also that there is abit of angst at the Hawks between Clarkson & Hardwick.
They know that he's a good chance for the Richmond job and are concerned that he will take some of their staff with him.
Close call between Hardwick and Hinkley as i said earlier in the week, Hardwick a nose ahead.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Here's an interesting stat on Hinkley's and Hardwick's Assisstant coaching records.

Geelong 2000 to 2003: Thompson coach, no Hinkley. 89 games for 39 wins and 2 draws, 45% winning record
Geelong 2004-2009 so far: Thompson coach, Hinkley Assistant: 142 games, 100 wins, 1 draw, 70% winning record
HAwthorn 2005-2009 so far: Clardson coach, HArdwick Assistant, 113 games, 56 wins, 49% winning record.

Hawthorn has made finals 2 times, and missed 2 times, with this year another likely miss. One Flag
Geelong has made finals 5 times in Hinkley's 6 years. 1 flag, 1 runners-up.

Is it just coincidence that Geelong became a powerhouse when Hinkley got there?

Nice one.

Can tell you also that there is abit of angst at the Hawks between Clarkson & Hardwick.
They know that he's a good chance for the Richmond job and are concerned that he will take some of their staff with him.
Close call between Hardwick and Hinkley as i said earlier in the week, Hardwick a nose ahead.

Heard the same about Clarkson/Hardwick.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Can tell you also that there is abit of angst at the Hawks between Clarkson & Hardwick.
They know that he's a good chance for the Richmond job and are concerned that he will take some of their staff with him.
Close call between Hardwick and Hinkley as i said earlier in the week, Hardwick a nose ahead.

Good info Boss.

Begs the question which current staff from Hawthorn would we want to obtain from them?

 

[tigertime2]

Can tell you also that there is abit of angst at the Hawks between Clarkson & Hardwick.
They know that he's a good chance for the Richmond job and are concerned that he will take some of their staff with him.
Close call between Hardwick and Hinkley as i said earlier in the week, Hardwick a nose ahead.

If he can bring Roughead - he's got the job!

 

[IanG]

Good info Boss.

Begs the question which current staff from Hawthorn would we want to obtain from them?

Pelchen. How are their fitness and conditioning staff?

 

[Lidsand]

hodge
roughead
rioli

that'll do for now

 

[GoodOne]

hodge
roughead
rioli

that'll do for now

we have to be fair and give them something in return though

I say

JON for Roughhead (similar age),
Krakouer for Rioli (I know he's no longer with us but he owes us big time)
Jackson for Hodge (both tough nuts but one has disposal skills)

 

[Ian4]

I didn't hear him initially, did he say how he knew? How the hell would a golf person get this sort of information footy journo's haven't.

yep, and a golf person who hates the RFC to boot :rofl

its the only part of the process i do not like because it does seem to be a waste of time. this presentation to the board will not be as formal as the last round of interviews so it should not sway the sub committee's thoughts unless the 2 coaches have different 'ways' of re building the club and the sub committee wants the boards thoughts on which way to go.

wouldn't suprise me if just the seleted candidate and the sub committee presents to the board.

well the senior coach makes presentations to the board all the time, so it why not make the candidates do it too, even if it's informal? or can you gve a reason as to why it would be counter productive?

On AFL Teams last night at the end of the segment BT said the same thing.

and he was spot on with brad scott, so why not with richo?

 

[tigertough12]

Even if your right, even if you have a so called contact, your credibility is zero after your Buckley charade, which you now admit was BS, or is it just a case of trying to save face, after all if you guess long enough, throw enough names around often enough, your bound to have a post somewhere you can fall back on to try and give the impression you actually are somehow in the know.

Ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf.

i've only ever said K.H will be the senior coach after the bucks prank so not sure where you're coming from with your above quote in the bold....get your facts right before you start talking crap

 

[Ripplestick]

the bucks prank

Now I've heard it all innochio :brickwall

attention seeking poster of the highest order.

Is there an ignore option on this forum so we can choose to ignore this moth?

 

[Tiger74]

Now I've heard it all innochio :brickwall

attention seeking poster of the highest order.

Is there an ignore option on this forum so we can choose to ignore this moth?

he used the mate - don't doubt him....after all look at his track record to date (now where is Bucks.....)

 

[gustiger12]

i've only ever said K.H will be the senior coach after the bucks prank so not sure where you're coming from with your above quote in the bold....get your facts right before you start talking crap

facts are all here for everyone to see. You stated it as fact, now you claim it was BS, a prank, whatever. You have a lot of work to do to regain any credibility on here I'd suggest.

But if your right then we can all enjoy the moment.

 

[Mr Richmond]

well the senior coach makes presentations to the board all the time, so it why not make the candidates do it too, even if it's informal? or can you gve a reason as to why it would be counter productive?

your right no harm can come from it (I think), even if its just to erase any doubts or double check something VIVA LA PROCESS.

I suppose my real question is what is the criteria for this stage of the process? every other stage has had criteria (gameplans, direction, psychological etc) what is the criteria for this stage? i can't recall reading anything, is it simply a summary presentation to the board?

 

[Willo]

Channel 7 (Adel) reporting that Hardwick is close to signing a 2 year deal as Senior Assistant at PP.
Hardwick "apparently" citing Richmond's "poor playing list" as the main reason for not taking the job.???

 

[Ripplestick]

Stage 3 was always about the panel submitting 2 applicants to the board and listing one of them as a recommendation.

Not sure it has deviated from this, has the club come out and actually changed the process and said 2 applicants will have to present to the board as well?... I havent heard it but it may have been said.

Would seem overkill.

The panel need to submit the pros/cons and recommendations, simple as that.

Unless the board is vehemently oppossed to the recommendation, that will be all she wrote.

 

[Freezer]

Channel 7 (Adel) reporting that Hardwick is close to signing a 2 year deal as Senior Assistant at PP.
Hardwick "apparently" citing Richmond's "poor playing list" as the main reason for not taking the job.???

Sounds like he's getting a bit bitter. North's process and our list are the reasons he didn't want those jobs.

Essendon, Melbourne, North and Richmond have all seen something they didn't like and I think he's starting to make excuses.

 

[Tiger74]

Sounds like he's getting a bit bitter. North's process and our list are the reasons he didn't want those jobs.

Essendon, Melbourne, North and Richmond have all seen something they didn't like and I think he's starting to make excuses.

Agreed (if the 7 report is right).

IF IF IF channel 7 is right, lets move forward with Hinkley and Richo