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The Official "RFC Coaching Position" Discussion Thread

scooty said:
i have new sources and here is what they say
Roos to announce coach this week
Were keen on german but have decided to move from kangaroo blood hence why croker has no chance richmond to name theres to this week
Rawlings according to my sources was fav on saterday but not anymore
Gale furious on his culture statement
Dunstal has been puting togther jades prestation to help him to get us to forget hardwick
Laidley to hawks
Scott to roos and rickhmond he chas no indea who they want
If that is true about Gale then this club is finished. If Gale doesn't believe that there is a culture issue at the RFC club and he has just become our CEO, he might as well appoint Capmbell as senior coach, and recruit Daffy and Tivendale back as his assistants. I don't want Jade the blade to get the gig but his statement about the culture at the RFC and its players was spot on.

God help us. :'(
 
frawleyudud said:
If that is true about Gale then this club is finished. If Gale doesn't believe that there is a culture issue at the RFC club and he has just become our CEO, he might as well appoint Capmbell as senior coach, and recruit Daffy and Tivendale back as his assistants. I don't want Jade the blade to get the gig but his statement about the culture at the RFC and its players was spot on.

God help us. :'(

Totally agree, I'm not overally keen on Benny Gale as the new CEO of Richmond, I happen to think that could be a very big mistake. Gale has never run a major organisation and if you call the AFL Players Association a major organisation, then you've got problems.

Rawlings is ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON WITH THE CULTURE ISSUE, for Gale to come out and say its not a problem, is utter *smile*. Gale should be told quite BLUNTLY keep your nose out of the football department and focus on the off field issues, otherwise we are going to have some real issues develop down at Punt Road, which is not what anyone needs right now.
 
It's down to 2 - Hardwick or Hinkley.

Richardson has admirers but not sure about his profile. The last 2 weeks have cost Jade.

Hardwick wants to coach Richmond, so don't worry about Roos pinching him, he wants the Tigers job ahead of the Roos.

My personal preference is for Hinkley
 
frawleyudud said:
If that is true about Gale then this club is finished. If Gale doesn't believe that there is a culture issue at the RFC club and he has just become our CEO, he might as well appoint Capmbell as senior coach, and recruit Daffy and Tivendale back as his assistants. I don't want Jade the blade to get the gig but his statement about the culture at the RFC and its players was spot on.

Talk about reading something that isn't there. If Gale was angry about it he was probably angry about Rawlings going public with it not that it doesn't exist. Gale has alluded to cultural issues in his statements since his appointment anyway but more obliquely. And I agree with him, to me it smacked of Rawlings deflecting his own responsibility and making excuses.

Massai said:
Rawlings is ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON WITH THE CULTURE ISSUE, for Gale to come out and say its not a problem, is utter *smile*. Gale should be told quite BLUNTLY keep your nose out of the football department and focus on the off field issues, otherwise we are going to have some real issues develop down at Punt Road, which is not what anyone needs right now.

See above, you're making assumptions about a rumour and treating it as the unvarnished truth.
 
rawlings was spot on about our culture and if gale thinks otherwise then we are in big trouble. why did we appoint him anayway, coz he's gat a law degree and worked for the aflpa ? what other experience has he had with running an organisation?
 
IanG said:
Talk about reading something that isn't there. If Gale was angry about it he was probably angry about Rawlings going public with it not that it doesn't exist. Gale has alluded to cultural issues in his statements since his appointment anyway but more obliquely. And I agree with him, to me it smacked of Rawlings deflecting his own responsibility and making excuses.

See above, you're making assumptions about a rumour and treating it as the unvarnished truth.
Which part of If that is true in my opening statement did you not understand Ian?? If Gale has said such words it is a disgrace. If it not true then i have no issues. Problem is considering the history of this club i am more inclined to believe it then dismiss it. I also don't believe for one second it was Rawlings deflecting his own responsibilities. I can't believe you could make that statement after watching Richmond these last couple of years continually fail when the pressure has been on.
 
Benny Gale was spot on, what Jade said in public was for behind closed doors only - why go public? smacks of Terry Wallace and it is no surprise that Rawlings would do exactly as Wallce would as he learnt everything he knows about coaching off Wallace.

I found it interestring that yesterday Jade revealed that he was reading books about changing mindsets!! seriously dont know why he is still in the coaching race and the more disturbing thing is that he was seriously considered at all. Whoever was pushing for Rawlings as coach should be excluded from having any decision making capacity at all at the Tigers ever again.
 
frawleyudud said:
Which part of If that is true in my opening statement did you not understand Ian?? If Gale has said such words it is a disgrace.

Which part of my statement did you not understand "If Gale was angry about it he was probably angry about Rawlings going public with it not that it doesn't exist". Why would you immediately leap to make the worst possible assumption?

frawleyudud said:
I also don't believe for one second it was Rawlings deflecting his own responsibilities. I can't believe you could make that statement after watching Richmond these last couple of years continually fail when the pressure has been on.

I'm not saying the statement wasn't true, I'm saying I don't think Rawling's motives were necessarily pure. I'm saying its the sort iof thing that doesn't need to be broadcast publically because of the negative publicity.
 
IanG said:
Which part of my statement did you not understand "If Gale was angry about it he was probably angry about Rawlings going public with it not that it doesn't exist". Why would you immediately leap to make the worst possible assumption?

I'm not saying the statement wasn't true, I'm saying I don't think Rawling's motives were necessarily pure. I'm saying its the sort iof thing that doesn't need to be broadcast publically because of the negative publicity.
Why not give the players a public baking. I'm sick and tired of protecting them. They need to start listening to the public critiscm and actually responding for once rather than sooking about keeping it in house etc. I believe other things need to be kept in house like March coming out and stating that Richo will play on next year when we haven't even appointed a coach yet. That is just plain stupidity. They are basically keeping a player on regardless of the new coaches decision on Richo.
 
frawleyudud said:
Why not give the players a public baking.

Because Rawlings made some poor selection decisions and some player moves that helped the loss blow out and thus has some degree of responsibility for the result which his statement deflects from. Its the same problem as Wallace just slightly different. I doubt the players like having all the blame heaped on them when the coach bears some responsibility.
 
Tony Braxton-Hicks said:
Wrong. There are more Tiger jumpers at Auskick than other teams. We Tigers fans must be good breeders.

Don't forget that we eat our own. :rofl

Any kid that wants to swap teams will be spat at and have a bucket of manure dumped in their bedroom.
 
Tony Braxton-Hicks said:
This candidate was very confident of his chances. The candidate's surname has an H in it. His first name ends in an N.

Its not Kenneth Hinkley then
 
So what happens from here ? 2 more interviews this week then pick a final 2 to present to the board ?
 
frawleyudud said:
Why not give the players a public baking.

Rawlings knew what he was getting into when he put his hand up for the job. It's ordinary form for him to take it on and then make it fair game as a selling point to win over some supporters who are dying to hear that. You have to have substance behind a spray and be able to do something about it if you are going to go public, otherwise he is just airing dirty laundry for his own benefit.

I also agree with Ian he was doing it for the wrong reasons. Came across as more spin and politics than anything else, which is why it's backfired on him.

Lastly, who is Rawlings to bag the culture that he has been a part of coaching, both on the senior list as an assistant and in developing at Coburg?

He has clearly learnt the art of the spin bowl from Wallace.

You know it's funny. I look at Wallace's assistants and I wonder to myself what has he actually taught them and while I am sure he has taught them other things, the most notable thing to me is how much Rawlings and King have improved with the gift of the gab and politics/spin.

I've had enough of that myself. Time to sweep out the rubbish and get fair dinkum.
 
Rawlings statement showed his immaturity although it sated the ferals' blood lust on this site.

Its great to be honest, but Jade was bitten in the bum in the subsequent game and was running back from it at a million miles an hour at his press conference. The first questions were all - Is there still a culture problem - did the boys give up when it got too hard etc etc. Jade ducked and weaved

He will have learned from it but too late for his immediate coaching aspirations.

Bring on Kennian Hardley!
 
frawleyudud said:
Which part of If that is true in my opening statement did you not understand Ian?? If Gale has said such words it is a disgrace. If it not true then i have no issues. Problem is considering the history of this club i am more inclined to believe it then dismiss it. I also don't believe for one second it was Rawlings deflecting his own responsibilities. I can't believe you could make that statement after watching Richmond these last couple of years continually fail when the pressure has been on.

If its true that you stole from the church poor box it is an absolute disgrace. If its not true I have no issues.
 
Rawlings was dead right to bake the players for their poor culture, where he may have erred is taking it into the public domain at the presser.
He should have saved that one for the coaching interview.
 
French Tiger said:
So what happens from here ? 2 more interviews this week then pick a final 2 to present to the board ?

pretty much.

Rawlings today (I believe) and Hinkley later in the week. Given the 10 days timeline March mentioned, that may then mean final board chat at the weekend or first thing next week.
 
Dyer Disciple said:
Rawlings knew what he was getting into when he put his hand up for the job. It's ordinary form for him to take it on and then make it fair game as a selling point to win over some supporters who are dying to hear that. You have to have substance behind a spray and be able to do something about it if you are going to go public, otherwise he is just airing dirty laundry for his own benefit.

:clap

Your posting just keeps getting better - look out Ruddy!