The Official "RFC Coaching Position" Discussion Thread

[Baloo]

Not too fussed about the North push. While I think Dimma would be a great result, if he scampers off early to take the North money then it's a sign of the man himself. He wasn't fully committed to what will be a life changing event that is the Richmond Coaching role. If he's not fully committed, then he wasn't the right man for the job.

Anyway, North have painted themselves into a position where they will wait if their candidate tells them to wait. They reek of desperation and that's never a good thing.

 

[Tigerbob]

Looks like Hardwick might have a bit of a decision to make over the next couple of days-Shinboner spirit vs the least successful club in recent history. Probably not the gigs he saw himself having to choose from when he decided he wanted to coach, but life goes that way sometimes.

I wonder if he has fallen in love with Richmond yet?

Massive crowds, big games, your picture on the back-page of the Herald-Sun at least once a week. When the fans love you, they really love you but if they should ever happen to turn on you the internet will light up like the Harbour Bridge on New Year's Eve. Wait'll he sees the fear in his players eyes as they run the gauntlet to get off the field after a big loss. Just ask Danny Frawley or Terry Wallace. This ain't no Country Club.

Its the career-breaker. Its the high-risk ride of the AFL. Its Bungee-jumping. Its the adrenaline rush of footy and that's an adrenaline rush in itself. Its Italian coffee, strong, black and never lets you sleep. Its a night of passion with Elle MacPherson. The coach of Richmond will always know that he is alive.

Shin-boner spirit? Hey, I love osso bucco as much as the next guy and can you find better comfort food than slow-cooked lamb shanks on a Winter's Night? One should never lose sight of the fact that it's still the bony bit on the end of the leg. It can't really compete with a nice, juicy 400gram Porterhouse every night.

Has Damien Hardwick fallen in love with Richmond yet?

Brilliant as per usual.

 

[Dyer Disciple]

Looks like Hardwick might have a bit of a decision to make over the next couple of days-Shinboner spirit vs the least successful club in recent history. Probably not the gigs he saw himself having to choose from when he decided he wanted to coach, but life goes that way sometimes.

I wonder if he has fallen in love with Richmond yet?

Massive crowds, big games, your picture on the back-page of the Herald-Sun at least once a week. When the fans love you, they really love you but if they should ever happen to turn on you the internet will light up like the Harbour Bridge on New Year's Eve. Wait'll he sees the fear in his players eyes as they run the gauntlet to get off the field after a big loss. Just ask Danny Frawley or Terry Wallace. This ain't no Country Club.

Its the career-breaker. Its the high-risk ride of the AFL. Its Bungee-jumping. Its the adrenaline rush of footy and that's an adrenaline rush in itself. Its Italian coffee, strong, black and never lets you sleep. Its a night of passion with Elle MacPherson. The coach of Richmond will always know that he is alive.

Shin-boner spirit? Hey, I love osso bucco as much as the next guy and can you find better comfort food than slow-cooked lamb shanks on a Winter's Night? One should never lose sight of the fact that it's still the bony bit on the end of the leg. It can't really compete with a nice, juicy 400gram Porterhouse every night.

Has Damien Hardwick fallen in love with Richmond yet?

Good to see the return of Dyer'ere has made you lift your game to another level, you've gone from always insightful to insightful and entertaining now. :hihi

 

[TOT70]

Good to see the return of Dyer'ere has made you lift your game to another level, you've gone from always insightful to insightful and entertaining now. :hihi

It makes for a welcome change from circular arguments on list management and tanking.

I'm still in awe over that perineum injury.

 

[Col.E.Kurtz]

It’s like buying a used car. There is a flash looking one in the lot that the salesman is telling you loads of other buyers are interested in so you better act fast if you don’t want to miss out.

You could rush in and but the car without a full engine inspection. But this is a big, expensive decision so maybe it’s better to do the full testing. Sure we take the risk that we may be too slow for one car, but when we finally do buy a car we’ll have made a well informed choice and bought a car that suits our needs.

 

[Ocker]

This thread is really becoming pro-Hardwick isn't it?

Rawlings doesn't even get a mention any more.
It's amazing how 1 week (and another insipid performance) can change the landscape.

Whatever happens / Whoever gets the gig - the cattle need to be prodded BIG time.
The coach can only do so much to a point...

 

[IanG]

This thread is really becoming pro-Hardwick isn't it?

Rawlings doesn't even get a mention any more.

With good reason. Hardwick is my favourite but if we determine Hinkley or Richardson will be better then I'd accept that but Rawlings has not done nearly enough and looks out of his depth tactically.

 

[Baloo]

This thread is really becoming pro-Hardwick isn't it?

Rawlings doesn't even get a mention any more.
It's amazing how 1 week (and another insipid performance) can change the landscape.

Surely you're not implying that PREers are a fickle bunch are you ?

 

[Tigers of Old]

This thread is really becoming pro-Hardwick isn't it?

Rawlings doesn't even get a mention any more.
It's amazing how 1 week (and another insipid performance) can change the landscape.

Whatever happens / Whoever gets the gig - the cattle need to be prodded BIG time.
The coach can only do so much to a point...

I am still keeping an open mind on Rawlings.

The process is what is important. Not popularity contests.

 

[Djevv]

This thread is really becoming pro-Hardwick isn't it?

Rawlings doesn't even get a mention any more.
It's amazing how 1 week (and another insipid performance) can change the landscape.

Whatever happens / Whoever gets the gig - the cattle need to be prodded BIG time.
The coach can only do so much to a point...

I like what Rawlings has done so far, I think its exactly what needed to be done but experience wise he is clearly not the best candidate. Most can see that.

 

[Smoking Aces]

With this latest news about North going to offer Hardwick the job and some poeple saying that we should 'speed' up our process, the following is the statement released in June detailing the process. Since the candidates have now gone through their 2nd round of interviews, the next step is for the sub-committee to present to the Board their recommendations. In saying that we too couldnt be more than a week away from making an announcement. Caro speculated that an announcment could be made as early as next week.

So those wanting to speed up the process, we are actually now entering the last phase which is the recommendation to the board.

The process is nearly over!

Tigers announce coach selection plan
Tony Greenberg
10:27 PM Thu 25 June, 2009

Richmond will embark on the most thorough process in its history to find its next senior coach. The Tigers have invited applications, via the AFL Coaches’ Association, for their senior coaching position by July 3, and will start initial interviews with candidates by the middle of that month. There are three key phases in the interview process, with a final decision not expected until September. “It will be a very methodical process and, one of the reasons for this, is that we think there are a lot of excellent coaching candidates out there, and we need to get to know them as well as we can,” said Richmond’s General Manager of Football, Craig Cameron. “The Coaches’ Association already has received quite a few enquiries for the job from coaches. “We’ll also talk to other potential candidates, who may not have formally expressed their interest in the position, if we feel they are suitable.” Before the formal interviews take place, Richmond will speak with several coaching experts about developing a framework for selecting the right person for the job at Tigerland. “We’re not going to make public, who these people are, as they’re just doing it as a favor to us. Suffice to say, however, they are people who have coached premierships at senior AFL level, and have coached teams in other sports to high achievement – Olympic Gold Medals, etc.,” Cameron said. “They’re not going to set the whole agenda, but we’ll tap into their vast coaching knowledge and experience to help us formulate the criteria for what makes a successful coach.” The Tigers’ coaching sub-committee will comprise Cameron, CEO Steven Wright, football director Tony Free, and the Club’s General Manager of Learning and Development, Jeff Bond, along with two external members in Ben Crowe, founding partner of Gemba, one of Australia’s leading consultancy and communications agencies (and a Richmond supporter), and legendary Australian basketball coach Lindsay Gaze. “The stage one process will revolve around examining the applicants’ leadership skills, their other personal qualities and their coaching vision. Obviously, also, we’d like a bit of knowledge at that point of their game plan and overall football vision – both short-term and long-term,” Cameron said. “We’d hope to be in a position by the start of August to filter down the list of candidates who we’ll take to stage two.” At that time, the two external sub-committee members (Crowe and Gaze) will be replaced by two former Richmond players in Emmett Dunne and Greg Stafford. Dunne, a Richmond Life Member, played 115 games for the Tigers from 1976-83 and was a member of the Club’s last premiership side, in 1980. He also coached Richmond’s reserve-grade team from 1988-91 and had a stint as playing coach of Footscray’s reserves. Since 1996, he has served on the AFL tribunal and he is a prominent member of the Victoria Police Force, having worked his way through the ranks, to the role of Acting Assistant Commissioner. Stafford played 74 games with Richmond from 2002-06 and was highly regarded throughout his time at Tigerland for his leadership qualities and astute football brain. Previous to that, he played 130 games for Sydney from 1993-01, and was a member of the Swans’ 1996 Grand Final side. Richmond president Gary March also will join the coaching sub-committee at stage two of the interview process. “It will be a much more rigorous, football-based, interview process from that point on. Football-situation analysis will be the focus, along with some psychological profiling,” Cameron said. “Given the thorough nature of the testing period at stage two, I’d anticipate each interview could take up to three hours. “From there, we’d be in a position to take a short list of candidates to the board for the final recommendation. Ultimately, it’s a board decision, but they will receive a recommendation from the coaching sub-committee.” The Club is open-minded on whether to select an experienced or inexperienced coach. “We’re going to pick the coach, who we believe is the best fit for the Richmond Football Club, and the best fit for where our playing list is at,” Cameron said. “We have a firm belief that the AFL system is good at producing the next level of senior coaches. The various coaching courses the AFL run, having people involved at the AIS level, and bringing them through the TAC Cup and the under-18 National Championships, combine to help create this next batch of coaches.
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/79427/default.aspx

 

[Dyer Disciple]

The process is what is important. Not popularity contests.

Too right.

 

[gustiger12]

Hardwick was at the club on Monday, one assumes for his second round Interview. You would think the others would have followed closely there after so the sub committee must be pretty close to making a recommendation to the board, which should be pretty straight forward, otherwise the hole process would have been a waste of time.

I'm pretty confident we wouldn't be sitting on our hands over this, as we would want to be able to give the successful candidate an option if he is also Norths preferred option.

 

[JR8]

Looks like Hardwick might have a bit of a decision to make over the next couple of days-Shinboner spirit vs the least successful club in recent history. Probably not the gigs he saw himself having to choose from when he decided he wanted to coach, but life goes that way sometimes.

I wonder if he has fallen in love with Richmond yet?

Massive crowds, big games, your picture on the back-page of the Herald-Sun at least once a week. When the fans love you, they really love you but if they should ever happen to turn on you the internet will light up like the Harbour Bridge on New Year's Eve. Wait'll he sees the fear in his players eyes as they run the gauntlet to get off the field after a big loss. Just ask Danny Frawley or Terry Wallace. This ain't no Country Club.

Its the career-breaker. Its the high-risk ride of the AFL. Its Bungee-jumping. Its the adrenaline rush of footy and that's an adrenaline rush in itself. Its Italian coffee, strong, black and never lets you sleep. Its a night of passion with Elle MacPherson. The coach of Richmond will always know that he is alive.

Shin-boner spirit? Hey, I love osso bucco as much as the next guy and can you find better comfort food than slow-cooked lamb shanks on a Winter's Night? One should never lose sight of the fact that it's still the bony bit on the end of the leg. It can't really compete with a nice, juicy 400gram Porterhouse every night.

Has Damien Hardwick fallen in love with Richmond yet?

That's a ripper Goldsmith!! ;D

 

[Tigerdog]

My initial preference was for Hardwick. But over the journey I have warmed a little to Hinkley getting the gig.
Either of those 2 would be fine by me. If the process identifies Richardson or Laidley as the best candidates for the job then so be it.
Personally I would prefer Laidley in a director of coaching role with Rawlings staying on as Coburg coach.
Mind you if we have McRae contracted and want Campbell to stick around, plus have promised K Johnson a gig... where do we stand??

I wouldnt be surprised if Hinkley or Hardwick are our current first choices... with Richardson a close 3rd.

 

[cmarkidis]

I like what Rawlings has done so far, I think its exactly what needed to be done but experience wise he is clearly not the best candidate. Most can see that.

What Rawlings has done so far any Tom, *smile* or Harry could have done. It doesn't take much when you have nothing to lose to drop big names. You might get an initial filip if things work out, but sooner or later you will be found out.

Ask yourself does Rawlings have the character, experience, tactical nous, and touch of cunning to rebuild this list from here forward. From what I have seen, I say a resounding NO.

 

[Ian4]

You cant believe everything sheehan writes, this may or may not be true.

Regardless, I think richmond should let Damien know that we will fast forward the interviews with the others and the club will be making an appointment by the end of next week.

If Damien cant wait till that time then he shows he only wants north job then fine let him go.

Keep the process, just speed it up !!!

doesn't matter how much you speed it up, methinks north will offer hardwick the job well before we do (if we do). the ball will be in his court now. if he accepts it, so be it. viva la process.

process is too slow... yep we don't want another wallace rush job, but FFS, get on with it.

why are you panicking? settel pettle. viva la process.

 

[TIGEREXTRA]

Process is a virtue, umah I mean patience. ;D

 

[Freezer]

Richmond won't be rushed
Jake Niall | August 14, 2009

RICHMOND will not cut short its exhaustive search for the next coach in the event that Hawthorn assistant Damien Hardwick is offered the coaching position by North Melbourne.

While Hardwick is a leading candidate to coach the Roos, who could offer him the job to cut Richmond off at the pass, the Tigers last night indicated that they would continue with their process - which involves interviewing two more candidates - regardless of whether North made Hardwick an offer.

The Tigers, thus, could risk losing Hardwick before they have completed their second round of interviews if North jumps in and makes him an offer.

If North Melbourne decides that Hardwick is its priority - it completed two interviews yesterday - then it will act quickly early next week and offer him the job.

The Tigers have interviewed Hardwick and Alan Richardson in the demanding phase two of their coach-search this week, and have to put Geelong assistant Ken Hinkley and caretaker Jade Rawlings through the same extensive interview next week - a schedule the Tigers say they will stick with, resisting the temptation to cut it short if Hardwick is made an offer by North.

North Melbourne, meanwhile, interviewed two of its final three candidates yesterday - caretaker Darren Crocker and then Collingwood assistant Brad Scott - with Hardwick, the favourite, having spoken to the Roos on Wednesday, when the club's fourth contender, John Longmire, withdrew after Sydney named him as Paul Roos' successor as senior coach in 2011.

Richmond football operations manager Craig Cameron, who is running the club's coach-search, said last night that the Tigers would stick with their process, despite the speculation about Hardwick and North.

''We've still got two people to interview, and they're good candidates,'' Cameron said, when asked whether the Tigers would consider shortening their process.

The only other possibility for the Tigers is former North Melbourne coach Dean Laidley, who hasn't decided whether he will pursue the Richmond job, but will chat to the Tigers about where he sits within the next two or three days.

Crocker and Scott are vying with Hardwick for the North position. The Roos' process is expected to have a shorter time-frame than Richmond's coach-search.

Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson has again strongly backed Hardwick's credentials for a senior coaching job. ''He has been in our system for five years and our view is he's ready to coach senior football,'' Clarkson said.

Laidley, meanwhile, met Hawthorn officials on Wednesday in a meeting that was downplayed by the former North coach, despite the strong possibility that the Hawks will be in the market for an assistant coach to replace Hardwick.

Laidley said last night that he had visited the Hawks at Waverley, meeting football operations chief Mark Evans and head of coaching development Chris Fagan. Laidley looked at their facilities in what was an education for him.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Viva la process.