Typical Moggies *smile*.
Jaaack 305 games, 715 goals, 422 behinds, 3 Colemans, 3 flags.
Tommyhawk 302 games, 665 goals, 371 behinds, 1 Coleman, 2 flags.
Obviously Jaaack has the mangy Moggie covered in all aspects of the game.
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Jaaack 305 games, 715 goals, 422 behinds, 3 Colemans, 3 flags.
Tommyhawk 302 games, 665 goals, 371 behinds, 1 Coleman, 2 flags.
Obviously Jaaack has the mangy Moggie covered in all aspects of the game.
I think, without checking, Carlton have 8 in that period too. I like to use the "premierships in my lifetime" measure when talking to most people, especially Collingwood supporters. Hawthorn supporters are just irritating on this score, 1 flag when I was born, 13 now, bastards.
DS
I'd rather be kicked in the nuts for eternity, have my eyes eaten out by rats and have to listen to Grammy winning artists on 10 than have anyone associated with a Scott come within 5 train stations of PRO.
I'll also add here that having someone on the inside making rule changes that just happen to suit the way you choose to play as another factor.
You have more or less confirmed my point here, i'll give an example, they retired Bartel & recruited Ablett who was older & he was never going to be around long enough to "win a flag within 5 years". As someone else said previously you are either contending for a flag or rebuilding towards that stage.
To find the answer to your question, have a look at how our Club reacted to it & how Lambert spoke about it at the '18 B&F. I agree it was a great season but it all amounts to nothing given we didn't take home the prize. Also consider how we all felt after it, this is what Geelong has been doing on repeat for a decade now.
Another way is look at the "success" topic like Cats fans did when they spoke to us post '18. They laughed at us because we "didn't go back to back so it's not going to be a dynasty/era" which is rather ironic, yet they defend their last decade like their lives depend on it. Can't have it both ways, if ours isn't a dynasty then neither is theirs...
See I could take the kicking in the nuts and the rat induced blindness, but you lost me at the Grammys. You must be stark, raving mad.
And my point is that it shouldn't be 'considered' nothing. Granted it's not a flag, but finishing first after nearly half a years worth of games means a lot and should be celebrated more.
i suspect a lot of it is because Chris Scott is a *smile*.
What does Buckley have in common with every other coach who hasnt won a premiership in 10 consecutive years of coaching- he was given the boot.
Except Chris Scott.
Sure. In a purely analytic data based review, you would say Geelong have been a successful team in comparison to others. But Footy is a very emotional thing for most supporters. Plenty of, if not most, Cats fans are not happy that they've not won a flag in recent years despite making the finals so many times.
If the Cats fans themselves don't see their club as successful, for once I am happy to agree with them.
Context, context, context!
The AFL Comp is about winning GFs/Premiership cups, it's a competition focused solely on that Cup!
That's it!!!
That's why they give Premiership medallions to the winners! That's why their are no second prizes for the runner ups!
The AFL Comp is not about who are the also rans, the runner up, best side at the end of the playing season, best side in the last decade,
cos when all said and done, that's just noise, for footy pundits to argue about and split footy statistic hairs, and also to keep the other Teams supporters interested!
But, but, Geelong...it's not about Geelong...it's about the Premiership winners!
2018 we had a great year and were arguably the best side that year, but we did not win the GF!
Yep, and who was it, Len Thompson I think, who threw a runners-up medal into the crowd after Collingwood lost a Grand Final many years ago. That sums up the attitude and they don't hand out the participants award which was the runners-up medal any more.
Geelong have performed well, but they have not delivered on the goal of winning a flag in the last 10 seasons. Yes contenders, yes a very good team, yes they were in a position to win so hard to criticise, but, they will pay a price for not quite making it. Will that price be a period in the wilderness? Who knows, but of all the people who are aware they have not achieved what they wanted, the Geelong people will be feeling this the most. Just like the way Collingwood felt back in the 60s and 70s, they contended, they did not win - it is hardly seen as a successful era down at South Richmond, it is seen as an era of failure.
DS
They made a Grand Final 2 years ago, led at half time and have every chance to win it. Forgive me if I don't feel a hell of a lot of sympathy for these 'not happy' Geelong supporters. Their club has been probably the best performed (alongside West Coast and Hawthorn) in the 'AFL era'. By any definition, they have been successful. Would their supporters like more flags? Sure, but I'd have liked to win 4 in a row and not lose to Collingwood in 2018.
The irony is you seem to be preaching context, yet approaching this with absolute none of it.
I think it's because:
1. They perennially belted us prior to 2017.
2. Scott comes across as a prick, and has said things that may be construed as 'dissing' Richmond which left him with egg on his face (he can say whatever he likes by the way, Dimma certainly has).
3. Their key players come across as unlikeable.
Malthouse had a very long time between drinks from West Coast to Collingwood.
Malthouse had a state squad between 1991-1995.
Scott has the media in his corner that's why he has lasted sooo long.
