Disco08 said:Even that makes little sense. Hardwick gave Tambling a spot in the leadership group this year and, according to this article also told him his future is at the RFC.
New coach Damien Hardwick gave Tambling a leadership role and, at the same time, told him his future was at Richmond.
"He pretty much told me I was needed in the team and everything we were going to do within the next 12 months, however long it takes, was geared towards winning a premiership," he said.
"We are working on, how do I say this, we are working on winning behaviours. It doesn't matter how long it takes as long as it improves each other ... and we play as a team and win as a team."
Disco08 said:Rubbish. How stupid do you think Hardwick and his team are, honestly?
I agree his performances this year don't warrant selection, but that doesn't make me assume these guys are dumb enough to select a player because of their draft position. That's beyond idiocy IMO.
Disco08 said:Maybe. As Baloo correctly pointed out, giving him a leadership role doesn't seem like lip service.
I don't think they're looking at trading him either (I understand who makes these calls). If they were surely they'd be playing him in one of the roles he's done well in previously and not one he's never seemed comfortable in. Makes far more sense doesn't it?
Harry said:whichever way you look at it, he has been hopeless this year. even if his role has been to apply pressure in the forward line, and occupy certain positions on the field where his posession count isn't that impoprtant - he has been terrible imo. runs to the wrong spots, tackles easily brushed off, jogs and pretends to chase, is happy to be near enough to the action to look like he's trying. if his role has been to witness the play around him then he's been brilliant.
Disco08 said:I don't disagree that BP might suit him, but what about the role he played consistently well for 12 rounds to end last year? Given that's the role he wants to play and the role he's most recently performed well, wouldn't it make sense
Disco08 said:Maybe. As Baloo correctly pointed out, giving him a leadership role doesn't seem like lip service.
I don't think they're looking at trading him either (I understand who makes these calls). If they were surely they'd be playing him in one of the roles he's done well in previously and not one he's never seemed comfortable in. Makes far more sense doesn't it?
Disco08 said:Who said anything about running wherever he wants? Midfielders don't basically follow the ball around all over the field from stoppage to stoppage? This is essentially what Tambling was doing after starting on a flank.
SAF said:You must have been under a rock in the lead up to that draft. All the talk was that Deledio, Griffen and Tambling were the top 3 prospects.
Roughhead was the one that was expected to go later than he did and it was a shock than Hawthorn overlooked Griffen, certainly looks like that was a big mistake at this stage of their careers.
Franklin was the one that a lot of clubs had big concerns about this work ethic and attitude. Some clubs were shocked by how arrogant Franklin was in draft camp interviews and would not have drafted him at all. Personally I'm not sure I could bear to watch Franklin play for Richmond, I have seen more than enough bad goal kicking and enigmatic play during Richo's career. As poor as Tambling has been, Richmond made the same decision that all clubs would have made if they were faced with the same choice at Pick 4 at that time. In hindsight they would all have picked Franklin but the same can be said about James Hird.
Disco08 said:Yet he sends him to the occasional centre bounce when others are resting or injured. Surely he could find someone else if Tambling is so useless at a stoppage.
You stand by your opinion if you like. I prefer to look at something more tangible, like actual performance. In that regard, Tambling showed very clearly his ability to play that role. To me it'd make sense to see him play it again before writing those performances (where he displayed above average vision and awareness) off as flukes.
tigertim said:I seem to recall the expected choices were Deledio and Roughead with our picks 1 and 4?
We were so confident of getting Roughead that I believe he was invited to the BBQ at Uncle Clinton's place.Mr Pumblechook said:Yep, that's my recollection. I think the expected order was Lids, Tambling, Griffin, Roughead. The Hawks 'swooped' on Roughead @ 2, and we picked up Tambling at 4.
Leysy Days said:Tambling has been running between half back to half forward most of the year, with a slight propensity to be winning slightly more ball forward of centre. Simply his shortcomings have found him out.
Leysy Days said:& He is occasionally around stoppages as you say. Just said Hardwick doesnt like it. If he did like him in that role he would be given more time than the little he has there dont you think?
Disco08 said:Yet he sends him to the occasional centre bounce when others are resting or injured. Surely he could find someone else if Tambling is so useless at a stoppage.
You stand by your opinion if you like. I prefer to look at something more tangible, like actual performance. In that regard, Tambling showed very clearly his ability to play that role. To me it'd make sense to see him play it again before writing those performances (where he displayed above average vision and awareness) off as flukes.