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Tambling (merged)

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bigwow said:
Even Buddy and Roughhead didn't play a lot in their first year.

Buddy played 20 games in his first year, Roughhead 16, Tambling 12 (off an injury from memory). Deledio played 22, Griffen 17. That's the top 5 for 2004.
 
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GoodOne said:
We've had this argument before. I dont agree in a number of those games that his primary role was HFF at all.

Tell me which ones and where you think he played then.

GoodOne said:
Bottom line as I said, regardless of voting, is to be successful as a HFF you need to also kick goals. He is not a damaging half forward flanker in my opinion.

Not if you're simply starting on the flank and then joining the on ballers.

Would you say Ryan O'Keefe (and his 20 goals in the last 30 games) is a damaging HFF? I would.

PRE voting is a great way to guage what people other than yourself thought of players' games. It's a good objective measurement IMO.


GoodOne said:
There's no arguing he had a good run of games last year, but I would argue that his best games were running out of defense.

Go on then. Give me reasoning rather than just making assertions.

Barnzy said:
If only we could come in here and say, what a great game on the weekend by Tambling! Instead we have people still making excuses for him after 100+ games. Not a fan of SP but he was spot on when he said this the other week.

Why is it such a big deal for people to posit possible reasons for his sudden decline in form? This type of thinking is far from excuse making IMO.
 
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Disco08 said:
Not if you're simply starting on the flank and then joining the on ballers.
Hmm then you're not a half forward flanker then are you?

Disco08 said:
Would you say Ryan O'Keefe (and his 20 goals in the last 30 games) is a damaging HFF? I would.

O'Keefe has been playing alot of midfield and also gets alot of stopping jobs (like his failed job on Ablett in the 1st quarter on the weekend). In the last 2 years O'Keefe has average around 24 possessions a game. What does that tell you? Does it maybe explain why he has kicked less goals compared to some of his earlier seasons. One could only hope that Tambling becomes as a consistent player as O'Keefe. Personally I am not expecting that much from him.

Disco08 said:
PRE voting is a great way to guage what people other than yourself thought of players' games. It's a good objective measurement IMO.

I presume you didn't finish this paragraph. I've never said he hadn't played any good games. In fact I think you will find I may have voted for him more than once myself. In particular that West COast game was one of the best games I have seen him play.

Disco08 said:
Go on then. Give me reasoning rather than just making assertions.

Not sure what reasoning you want. I base it on the games I have seen, and based on my discussions with other supporters, and as far as I understand, many others here think backline would be his best position.

He's simply not a forward. He doesn't have that opportunistic flair of the more successful small forwards. Surely you can understand my point of view, even if you don't agree with it.
 
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Disco is right regarding where Tambling played when he had his good games. Basically a roaming mid starting from half forward. Its his best position.

Whether its best for the team is the question.
 
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lamb22 said:
Disco is right regarding where Tambling played when he had his good games. Basically a roaming mid starting from half forward. Its his best position.

Would it make a difference if he was a roaming mid starting from half back? Whats the significance of starting a centre bounce fro half forward?
 
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Personally been dissapointed with Richie in 2010, looks to be moving well and doing some good things, just IMHO looks to be really lacking intensity, he is of course getting games under Dimma so Im happy if Dimma says his pulling his weight
 
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Over 100 games and its still being debated where his best position is.
It seems as if some are still trying to find a position for him.
Pity he hasn't made a position "his own". Its not as if he hasn't had ample opportunity.
 
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willo said:
Over 100 games and its still being debated where his best position is.
It seems as if some are still trying to find a position for him.
Pity he hasn't made a position "his own". Its not as if he hasn't had ample opportunity.
Well put Willo, no doubt played his best footy at the easiest position in the AFL of half back, personally love to see him work hard at becoming an impacting wingman
 
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Leysy Days said:
As you know leysy totally agree's with that. No time for snoozing nor not going hard enough back there & it suits his attributes. i,e overhead marking & run.

I think you'll find that Hardwick will wake up to this fact and play Tambling in the back half. This will also release Deledio into the middle where he needs to play if we are to improve. Tambling, Connors, Newman and Webberly as running backs and Deledio, Martin, Cotchin and Foley as core on-ballers is a solid group.

Leysey, don't forget Cuthbertson.
 
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GoodOne said:
He's simply not a forward. He doesn't have that opportunistic flair of the more successful small forwards. Surely you can understand my point of view, even if you don't agree with it.

I don't remember saying he should be a forward. I said I (and others) thought his best games have been playing the roaming HFF role, which is the one I described before.

GoodOne said:
O'Keefe has been playing alot of midfield and also gets alot of stopping jobs (like his failed job on Ablett in the 1st quarter on the weekend). In the last 2 years O'Keefe has average around 24 possessions a game. What does that tell you? Does it maybe explain why he has kicked less goals compared to some of his earlier seasons. One could only hope that Tambling becomes as a consistent player as O'Keefe. Personally I am not expecting that much from him.

Me either.

Tambling did average 21 touches last year (basic stats are OK to use ATM?) and more than that after Rawlings found his spot, which IMO was similar to the one O'Keefe plays.

GoodOne said:
Not sure what reasoning you want. I base it on the games I have seen, and based on my discussions with other supporters, and as far as I understand, many others here think backline would be his best position.

Maybe it is. I'm only disagreeing with you over which games he actually played that role.

CC TIGER said:
Personally been dissapointed with Richie in 2010, looks to be moving well and doing some good things, just IMHO looks to be really lacking intensity, he is of course getting games under Dimma so Im happy if Dimma says his pulling his weight

That's it.

If it is intensity then he really needs to have a run in the 2's and needs to go. The club's showed good faith in him and that's no way to reward it.

I also agree with whoever said he hasn't made any position his own. He's been moved around willy nilly even this year but you could forgive Beavis for having a play around. The year's obviously a write off anyway.
 
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Disco08 said:
The year's obviously a write off anyway.

I don't think it has to be Disco, like you said Hardwick is having a play around and that he is. No one knows what Hardwick is thinking and what he'll do with Richard, I think there will be two options, either keep him where he may see him as an asset for the future or plan to trade him and use him as a stepping stone for probably recruiting a ruckman or a key defender.

With 15 games to go Tambling still has time to redeem himself, it's up to him.
 
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Harry said:
I think you'll find that Hardwick will wake up to this fact and play Tambling in the back half. This will also release Deledio into the middle where he needs to play if we are to improve. Tambling, Connors, Newman and Webberly as running backs and Deledio, Martin, Cotchin and Foley as core on-ballers is a solid group.

Leysey, don't forget Cuthbertson.

He He Cuthbertson. Didnt he come on the scene with a bang.
 
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Being a former star junior player who was highly rated in the 2004 draft and given Richmonds diabolical record in developing young talent, some Clubs may believe that there is upside to Richie.

Any chance that we can convince Sheeds over the next 12 months that he is worth a first rounder for GWS. Sheeds loves young quick exciting Aboriginal footballers.
 
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Richard Tambling is the Bermuda Triangle of Senior AFL Footballers.

"Send out the search party, WE THINK something of importance has disappeared!"

:police: :police: :police: :police: :police:
 
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geoffryprettyboy said:
I don't think it has to be Disco, like you said Hardwick is having a play around and that he is.

I mean it's a lost cause finals wise mate. If ever there was a time to experiment it's now.
 
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surely we are done with him now. I don't care what number he was drafted - would he get a game at Geelong, Collingwood, St Kilda, Sydney - not a chance. Trade this year while he has some tiny bit of currency left
 
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goose said:
surely we are done with him now. I don't care what number he was drafted - would he get a game at Geelong, Collingwood, St Kilda, Sydney - not a chance. Trade this year while he has some tiny bit of currency left

Yep maybe Geelong, Collingwood, St Kilda or Sydney will take him.