Tambling (merged)

[Abe Simpson]

I'm sick of this Tambling bashing too. He's making good progress and it's only when he plateau's should we finalise our opinion about him. His inside work is nearly up to scratch for an AFL midfielder and he's using his pace and run well. His biggest problem IMO was his kicking and that has also improved. Bagging Tambling now is like saying a kid's not going to make it through high school because they can't past VCE when they're in yr 10!!!

He is a struggling player in his fourth year. Right now he would not even be considered by Collingwood or Hawthorn in their first 18s - and they started rebuilding at the same time!

He shows no creativity and has a questionable work ethic. His disposal is below par and he doesn't kick anywhere near enough goals.

In short he is a below par footballer.

I was devestated that he was not dropped this week. Maybe three weeks at Coburg would help him. I doubt it - but it is about all we have left to try with him.

Nothing against the man - I am sure he is a lovely guy. But right now he isn't a pick number 4's boot lace.

Sorry folks...

 

[jb03]

Nothing against the man - I am sure he is a lovely guy. But right now he isn't a pick number 4's boot lace.

Sorry folks...

What about Luke Livingston's.

 

[Abe Simpson]

What about Luke Livingston's.

Gee that's a great measurement of success.

Let's not take the comment too literally. I am sure players like Pendlebury, and dare I say it, Buddy Franklin would grin...

 

[GoodOne]

He is a struggling player in his fourth year. Right now he would not even be considered by Collingwood or Hawthorn in their first 18s - and they started rebuilding at the same time!

He shows no creativity and has a questionable work ethic. His disposal is below par and he doesn't kick anywhere near enough goals.

In short he is a below par footballer.

I was devestated that he was not dropped this week. Maybe three weeks at Coburg would help him. I doubt it - but it is about all we have left to try with him.

Nothing against the man - I am sure he is a lovely guy. But right now he isn't a pick number 4's boot lace.

Sorry folks...

I'm sure you'll get over your devastation.

 

[jb03]

Gee that's a great measurement of success.

Let's not take the comment too literally. I am sure players like Pendlebury, and dare I say it, Buddy Franklin would grin...

OK, if Luke Livingstone is the extreme for one case, why then compare Tambling to the extreme the other way? I suppose all pick 3's are cr@p because they aren't as good as Judd.

 

[GoodOne]

OK, if Luke Livingstone is the extreme for one case, why then compare Tambling to the extreme the other way? I suppose all pick 3's are cr@p because they aren't as good as Judd.

It's obvious jb, because Tambling isn't living up to his 4th pick expectations he should be dropped. If he was 78th pick it'd be fine because he's performing above expectations. It's silly but unfortunately that's how the simpleton human mind works.

 

[Tigerbob]

It's obvious jb, because Tambling isn't living up to his 4th pick expectations he should be dropped. If he was 78th pick it'd be fine because he's performing above expectations. It's silly but unfortunately that's how the simpleton human mind works.

Oh please, whether we like it or not Richard Tambling cost us a number 4 pick in the National Draft.

He is not showing anything to suggest he deserved to be anywhere near that pick. Directly after him a superstar has emerged in Franklin.

The problem with Richard is his lack of workrate, especcially defensively and he doesn't get involved in games. He has been a major disapointment. You cannot deny that. We have seen Cyril Rioli come in and show more in three bloody games than Tambling has shown in four seasons!

Take off your bloody blinkers and watch the game closely, he doesn't WANT it enough and his attitude in the game stinks. His workrate is non existant, and for "the best junior to come out of Darwin" his skills are shabby unlike 99% of players out of Darwin.

Please, defend him if there was a cause, but he has deserved nothing, NOTHING to have people defending him.

Deledio is getting bloody close too to the spotlight being well and truly on him. Both need a kick up the you know what and start being men and putting their body on the line and play FOOTBALL.

Cut the crap, get real and realise this football club is going backwards, sorry, is staying where it is as we cant go any further back and people that defend the mediocre play of our players, accept the mediocrity this club produces.

Please dont compare players like Lewis, Pendlebury and Thomas - ie. Players who have consistantly shown talent and a will to win, to our squib Richard Tambling. I'm sorry but I am sick of being let down and our supporters (including me) overrating our players.

 

[tigertim]

It's obvious jb, because Tambling isn't living up to his 4th pick expectations he should be dropped. If he was 78th pick it'd be fine because he's performing above expectations. It's silly but unfortunately that's how the simpleton human mind works.

Maybe your simpleton mind but a true "footy" mind would simply say he should be dropped because he's underperforming, regardless of what draft pick he was taken.

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

Oh please, whether we like it or not Richard Tambling cost us a number 4 pick in the National Draft.

He is not showing anything to suggest he deserved to be anywhere near that pick. Directly after him a superstar has emerged in Franklin.

The problem with Richard is his lack of workrate, especcially defensively and he doesn't get involved in games. He has been a major disapointment. You cannot deny that. We have seen Cyril Rioli come in and show more in three bloody games than Tambling has shown in four seasons!

Take off your bloody blinkers and watch the game closely, he doesn't WANT it enough and his attitude in the game stinks. His workrate is non existant, and for "the best junior to come out of Darwin" his skills are shabby unlike 99% of players out of Darwin.

Please, defend him if there was a cause, but he has deserved nothing, NOTHING to have people defending him.

Deledio is getting bloody close too to the spotlight being well and truly on him. Both need a kick up the you know what and start being men and putting their body on the line and play FOOTBALL.

Cut the crap, get real and realise this football club is going backwards, sorry, is staying where it is as we cant go any further back and people that defend the mediocre play of our players, accept the mediocrity this club produces.

Please dont compare players like Lewis, Pendlebury and Thomas - ie. Players who have consistantly shown talent and a will to win, to our squib Richard Tambling. I'm sorry but I am sick of being let down and our supporters (including me) overrating our players.

A great piece of work TB, an absolute masterpeace telling it exactly as it is.

On Cyril, that's exactly what I thought when he burst on the scene. If anyone has the time to compare Ricardo's 56 games and Cyril's 3 games STATS so far they are very comparable. Oh, and while people are at, they might as well compare Ricky & A. Lovett.

What a spew they don't measure Gut Running!

 

[itsintheblood]

Hate to say it but our FIVE picks in the 2005 draft are all turning out to be a bitter disappointment so far. You see so many other early picks absolutely creaming it with other clubs yet right now we really don't have anything to be excited about.

Says a lot about our recruiting and player development.

 

[Tiger44]

The problem is that our kids when played have to have an impact because they are surrounded by players not up to standard. I could imagine kids like Tambling and Deledio slotting into teams like Geelong and Hawthorn that have a high possession rate and high standards, this makes it easier for them to get a kick and they do not have to have an impact. They can just play their role, quietly gather the expereince required to become a very good player and two to three years later mature into just that.

Our kids on the other hand have to stand up by themselves, get little or no support and eventually fall back as they are neither seasoned or developed enough at the time. This is the difference. If Tambling was in Rioli's shoes at Hawthorn he too would be looking impressive.

The answer is difficult, no clear cut way of getting that balance due to our very poor list in the 23-28 age group. For the time being we are going to have to suffer the kids having a crack and hopefully getting the maturity and development to make them long term players who are significant contributors to our team.

 

[Lidsand]

Oh please, whether we like it or not Richard Tambling cost us a number 4 pick in the National Draft.

He is not showing anything to suggest he deserved to be anywhere near that pick. Directly after him a superstar has emerged in Franklin.

The problem with Richard is his lack of workrate, especcially defensively and he doesn't get involved in games. He has been a major disapointment. You cannot deny that. We have seen Cyril Rioli come in and show more in three bloody games than Tambling has shown in four seasons!

Take off your bloody blinkers and watch the game closely, he doesn't WANT it enough and his attitude in the game stinks. His workrate is non existant, and for "the best junior to come out of Darwin" his skills are shabby unlike 99% of players out of Darwin.

Please, defend him if there was a cause, but he has deserved nothing, NOTHING to have people defending him.

Deledio is getting bloody close too to the spotlight being well and truly on him. Both need a kick up the you know what and start being men and putting their body on the line and play FOOTBALL.

Cut the crap, get real and realise this football club is going backwards, sorry, is staying where it is as we cant go any further back and people that defend the mediocre play of our players, accept the mediocrity this club produces.

Please dont compare players like Lewis, Pendlebury and Thomas - ie. Players who have consistantly shown talent and a will to win, to our squib Richard Tambling. I'm sorry but I am sick of being let down and our supporters (including me) overrating our players.

whats it like waking up every morning with that horrible burden and inconvenience of the joys and happiness of life?

 

[Djevv]

"the best junior to come out of Darwin" his skills are shabby unlike 99% of players out of Darwin.

Hmm, I take issue with this comment. Players to come out of Darwin:

MacLeod
Bugoynes
Rioli M & D and now Cyril
'Magic' MacLean
D. Motlop
Hentschell
Corrie
Davey Boys
Clarke boys

Sorry, I don't think the common denominator here being poor skills. Tambling isn't poorly skilled either.

Must say I got tired of defending Ritchie a while ago. To me he is a confidence player, and he has never had much while at Richmond, sadly.

The best comparison I can find with why Ritchie has never really made his mark on the game, is his mate Deledio. How talented is Deledio? Fast, elite kick, strong overhead, freakish skills etc etc. I would back him in terms is pure ability with any other comparable player in the league. But is he dominating and setting the world on fire? Nope! Why?

 

[Abe Simpson]

The problem with Richard is his lack of workrate, especcially defensively and he doesn't get involved in games. He has been a major disapointment. You cannot deny that. We have seen Cyril Rioli come in and show more in three bloody games than Tambling has shown in four seasons!

I think the key thing is that Cyril has worked harder (in total) in his three AFL games than Tambling has in his entire football career!

That is so upsetting...

 

[tha8ball]

Exactly Djevv. Who becomes responsible for the fact Deledio and Tambling are playing nowhere near their capabilities? Why Dean Polo (a no.20 pick) is playing in the reserves week after week? Why Danny Meyer (until his injury) couldnt even cut it at Coburg? Why JON looks like one of the worst first round picks ever? Why Casserly is yet to debut?

....its unbelievable. What are the answers? Is it the coach? Is it player development? WHAT?

It seems we cannot, as a club, develop young draftees.

 

[Djevv]

Exactly Djevv. Who becomes responsible for the fact Deledio and Tambling are playing nowhere near their capabilities? Why Dean Polo (a no.20 pick) is playing in the reserves week after week? Why Danny Meyer (until his injury) couldnt even cut it at Coburg? Why JON looks like one of the worst first round picks ever? Why Casserly is yet to debut?

....its unbelievable. What are the answers? Is it the coach? Is it player development? WHAT?

It seems we cannot, as a club, develop young draftees.

I think a giant broom needs to sweep through the place. Our current broom, it seems, has failed. The coach is ultimately responsible for the culture of a club. Admittedly it is a tough job at Richmond, but if you're not up to the job..........

To me the young blokes need to be played and given serious responsibility. Tambling has that and seems to be improving (albeit slowly). Thursfield has plenty and is thriving, likewise Foley. Deledio needs some. So does Polak, Cleve and many others. The age of these guys is no longer an excuse for them.

 

[Mr Pumblechook]

Tambling so far in 2008

Tackles - Equal 1st with Newman (13)
Inside 50's - Equal 1st with Brown (13)
Centre clearances - Equal 3rd behind Foley (12) and Johnson (9)

but also

Clangers - Equal 1st with Richo (12)

Source: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2008/Statistics/tabid/6315/Default.aspx

I finally found something worthwhile on the RFC website!!!

 

[GoodOne]

I think the key thing is that Cyril has worked harder (in total) in his three AFL games than Tambling has in his entire football career!

That is so upsetting...

You know what's more upsetting? That we have idiots as Richmond supporters to make stupid comments like the above. I'm embarrassed.

 

[Knighter]

Amen Brother, you should have to pass an exam to be allowed to use the internet imo.

 

[GoodOne]

Amen Brother, you should have to pass an exam to be allowed to use the internet imo.

Just have a registration IQ test on PRE. Unfortunately we'd halve our posters immediately.