Tambling (merged)

[Skills]

My point is simple , i just want to knowof all games played how many time has RT finished in the tops 5 best players on that day

I'm not sure, but he did manage 2 brownlow votes last year.

Anyway, found this during a "feeling lucky" google search search of RT:

Richmond coach Terry Wallace has big wraps on Tambling. He told Channel 10 that he and the Richmond coaching staff were very happy with their first-round selections.

"Realistically, we believe that these two (Tambling and the Tigers' No. 1 pick, Brett Deledio) are the best two young players in Australia," he said.

The Hawks, meanwhile, are equally excited with their selection of Franklin, regarding his height and mobility a key to his selection and their needs.

http://www.aboriginalfootball.com.au/november.html

 

[Disco08]

I'd say last year somewhere around 6-8 times.

 

[Rockster]

I'd say last year somewhere around 6-8 times.

well in the best 6-8 times , this tells me that at least RT is putting in and having a go , you cant ask any more than that i say .

 

[geoffryprettyboy]

My point is simple , i just want to knowof all games played how many time has RT finished in the tops 5 best players on that day

When you say 'best' voted by whom? PRE, HS, The Age, the guy next door. Means jack Rocky.

Tambling should play a good game on the weekend, the weather should suit him.

 

[Skills]

I'd say last year somewhere around 6-8 times.

Interesting. That shut rocky up very quickly.
Be interesting to know which games and source please.

 

[Disco08]

I went off PRE voting skills, but just on stats performance I'd say rounds 3, 5, 9 ,11, 12, 14, 18, 19, 20 & 22 would all have been roughly top 5.

 

[Bunnerz]

isnt the poor boy married with two kids?

sorry if im wrong

but that would be hard at his age wouldnt it.?
what would he be 21?

 

[jb03]

I'm confused as to how you can say Cloke, Pendlebury and Cloke still have a lot to prove but say Lewis is a gun? Based on what?

Thomas: debut 2006, 44 games, 35 goals (ave 0.79), Collingwoods best first year player 2006. 6th in the Copeland 2007

Cloke: debut 2005, 58 games, 60 goals (ave 1.03), 2007 Copeland trophy winner, best finals player for Collingwood 2007

Pendlebury: debut 2006, 35 games, 25 goals (ave 0.71), runner up Rising star 2007, Copeland 2007 runner up

Lewis: debut 2005, 64 games, 22 goals (ave 0.34), best first year player 2005, 2007 4th b&f,

...and how exactly is Tambling progressing well? What's he doing in the 3 games in 2008 that he hasn't done in the 3 seasons prior?

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Good info, thanks tim. They say Judd is an exception but there are plenty of other juniors who start with an immedite impact.

 

[IanG]

...and how exactly is Tambling progressing well? What's he doing in the 3 games in 2008 that he hasn't done in the 3 seasons prior?

Backed himself more, been in and under a lot more, gone in harder than he has done previously.

 

[Leysy Days]

Good info, thanks tim. They say Judd is an exception but there are plenty of other juniors who start with an immedite impact.

Sure leysy's posted somewhere that there were 4 players (Boak, Edwards, Selwood, Gibbs) that played more than 10 games season in there 1st season last year. Not many really out of what was reputed to be the strongest draft ever.

 

[jb03]

Sure leysy's posted somewhere that there were 4 players (Boak, Edwards, Selwood, Gibbs) that played more than 10 games season in there 1st season last year. Not many really out of what was reputed to be the strongest draft ever.

I don't read leysy's posts, they're rubbish.

 

[IrockZ]

Sure leysy's posted somewhere that there were 4 players (Boak, Edwards, Selwood, Gibbs) that played more than 10 games season in there 1st season last year. Not many really out of what was reputed to be the strongest draft ever.

lots of kpp/rucks in that draft and they generally dont play first year

now your starting to see the likes of Brown, Tippett etc getting games and having an impact

 

[Leysy Days]

I don't read leysy's posts, they're rubbish.

I'll pass it on.

 

[GoodOne]

I'm confused as to how you can say Cloke, Pendlebury and Cloke still have a lot to prove but say Lewis is a gun? Based on what?

Thomas: debut 2006, 44 games, 35 goals (ave 0.79), Collingwoods best first year player 2006. 6th in the Copeland 2007

Cloke: debut 2005, 58 games, 60 goals (ave 1.03), 2007 Copeland trophy winner, best finals player for Collingwood 2007

Pendlebury: debut 2006, 35 games, 25 goals (ave 0.71), runner up Rising star 2007, Copeland 2007 runner up

Lewis: debut 2005, 64 games, 22 goals (ave 0.34), best first year player 2005, 2007 4th b&f,

...and how exactly is Tambling progressing well? What's he doing in the 3 games in 2008 that he hasn't done in the 3 seasons prior?

I'm starting to wonder whether some of you are acutally closet Collingwood supporters. You've just used alot of awards within the Collingwood football club to argue your point. Have you ever watched Lewis play? I don't give a rats what players do in their B&F, I mean Johnson won Richmond's, does that mean he's proved everything he needs to? Lewis is an excelent player, not a hard get-the-ball sort of player but good linking player with great skill. He knows where to be and has been a ball magnet from very early on. He has been averaging 20 possessions+ since the start of his 2nd season and regularly racks up 30 possessions plus (in fact 28 possessions plus in 6 of his last 9 games). And managed 31 possessions in the pressure cooker atmosphere of finals footy 1st semi. Of course stats arent everything but these ae pretty damning compared to the other mentioned players.

Thomas is a flashy player who does some exciting things at time. If he was at Richmond, he would be bagged non-stop for his inconsistency and inaccuracy (last year). Ironically against the Tigers he scored 3 goals, only the second time he's scored more than 2 goals in a match. So does he still need to prove himself? I believe so.

Cloke, well he's easily the best of all the Cloke's no doubt about that, and his last year was promising but gee I wouldn't have thought he has nothing to prove. 39 goals from 25 games in his 3rd season was a great result but from what I've seen of Cloke his committment needs to improve in the 1%ers such as tackling and contested possession, again one thing that everyone harps on with players like Pettifer. So does he have anything to prove still? Yes.

Pendlebury is an interesting player. Is he a midfielder? I've seen him play back alot more. He had a great 2007 for a second year player but his form before the Richmond game has been poor. Doesn't seem to get alot of contested possession So yes to say he has nothing to prove or is anywhere near the level that Lewis is at is simply poor judgement in my opinion.

As for what has Tambling done this year that he hasn't done in the previous 3 years (well 2 as he was injured first year and played most of the latter part of the season under an injury cloud), well if you haven't seen anything then you're really not looking hard enough. Won't go through it all again we've already discussed that at length in this thread.

 

[tigertim]

I'm starting to wonder whether some of you are acutally closet Collingwood supporters. You've just used alot of awards within the Collingwood football club to argue your point. Have you ever watched Lewis play? I don't give a rats what players do in their B&F, I mean Johnson won Richmond's, does that mean he's proved everything he needs to? Lewis is an excelent player, not a hard get-the-ball sort of player but good linking player with great skill. He knows where to be and has been a ball magnet from very early on. He has been averaging 20 possessions+ since the start of his 2nd season and regularly racks up 30 possessions plus (in fact 28 possessions plus in 6 of his last 9 games). And managed 31 possessions in the pressure cooker atmosphere of finals footy 1st semi. Of course stats arent everything but these ae pretty damning compared to the other mentioned players.

Thomas is a flashy player who does some exciting things at time. If he was at Richmond, he would be bagged non-stop for his inconsistency and inaccuracy (last year). Ironically against the Tigers he scored 3 goals, only the second time he's scored more than 2 goals in a match. So does he still need to prove himself? I believe so.

Cloke, well he's easily the best of all the Cloke's no doubt about that, and his last year was promising but gee I wouldn't have thought he has nothing to prove. 39 goals from 25 games in his 3rd season was a great result but from what I've seen of Cloke his committment needs to improve in the 1%ers such as tackling and contested possession, again one thing that everyone harps on with players like Pettifer. So does he have anything to prove still? Yes.

Pendlebury is an interesting player. Is he a midfielder? I've seen him play back alot more. He had a great 2007 for a second year player but his form before the Richmond game has been poor. Doesn't seem to get alot of contested possession So yes to say he has nothing to prove or is anywhere near the level that Lewis is at is simply poor judgement in my opinion.

So yes to say he has nothing to prove or is anywhere near the level that Lewis is at is simply poor judgement in my opinion Won't go through it all again we've already discussed that at length in this thread.

Geez Goofone, having a bad day? You're a bit testy there. All I asked was how you could say Lewis was a gun compared to the other players mentioned.
I'm starting to wonder whether some of you are acutally closet Collingwood supporters
YOU bought up the Collingwood players! I could ask are you a closet Hawks supporter?
"I don't give a rats what players do in their B&F," Well, if you don't give a rats about industry standard of how the clubs judge their best players then that says more about you than anything else!
I mean Johnson won Richmond's, does that mean he's proved everything he needs to? Well that and he's played in 2 flags will just about do it!
So yes to say he has nothing to prove or is anywhere near the level that Lewis is at is simply poor judgement in my opinion I fully agree. Who said Pendlebury had nothing to prove?

So finally, if you think Tambling has improved in his 3 2008 games compared to 2005-2007 then thanks for the conversation but your beyond reasoning with.

 

[GoodOne]

Geez Goofone, having a bad day? You're a bit testy there. All I asked was how you could say Lewis was a gun compared to the other players mentioned.
I'm starting to wonder whether some of you are acutally closet Collingwood supporters
YOU bought up the Collingwood players! I could ask are you a closet Hawks supporter?
"I don't give a rats what players do in their B&F," Well, if you don't give a rats about industry standard of how the clubs judge their best players then that says more about you than anything else!
I mean Johnson won Richmond's, does that mean he's proved everything he needs to? Well that and he's played in 2 flags will just about do it!
So yes to say he has nothing to prove or is anywhere near the level that Lewis is at is simply poor judgement in my opinion I fully agree. Who said Pendlebury had nothing to prove?

So finally, if you think Tambling has improved in his 3 2008 games compared to 2005-2007 then thanks for the conversation but your beyond reasoning with.

I didn't bring up the Collingwood players, it was brought up by someone else in an earlier post.

B&F is just an opinion, not of all players but of a select few who get to vote. If you seriously think Kane Johnson deserved the B&F for that year then you've got to wonder. You use a 6th in the B&F to highlight a player's worth, that's all I was commenting on. As for playing in two flags, well that means jack at a new struggling club. It is well known that Johnson was surrounded by quality midfielders in his time at Adelaide. Not saying he wasn't a good player however.

I'm not sure how I'm beyond reasoning with in terms of Tambling. A few here would agree that his intensity has been much higher this year ad the statistics back that up. He's for the first time spending time in the middle and he's racking up more games of consistent possessions and finding his own hard ball. He is also on top at the Tigers for tackles when we're just discussing on other threads our poor tackling. I think you are beyond reasoning if you can blindly state Tambling is not progressing well in light of the above facts.

And sorry for being testy

 

[Backbone]

I'm not sure how I'm beyond reasoning with in terms of Tambling. A few here would agree that his intensity has been much higher this year ad the statistics back that up. He's for the first time spending time in the middle and he's racking up more games of consistent possessions and finding his own hard ball. He is also on top at the Tigers for tackles when we're just discussing on other threads our poor tackling. I think you are beyond reasoning if you can blindly state Tambling is not progressing well in light of the above facts.

I'm sick of this Tambling bashing too. He's making good progress and it's only when he plateau's should we finalise our opinion about him. His inside work is nearly up to scratch for an AFL midfielder and he's using his pace and run well. His biggest problem IMO was his kicking and that has also improved. Bagging Tambling now is like saying a kid's not going to make it through high school because they can't past VCE when they're in yr 10!!!

 

[Lidsand]

I'm sick of this Tambling bashing too. He's making good progress and it's only when he plateau's should we finalise our opinion about him. His inside work is nearly up to scratch for an AFL midfielder and he's using his pace and run well. His biggest problem IMO was his kicking and that has also improved. Bagging Tambling now is like saying a kid's not going to make it through high school because they can't past VCE when they're in yr 10!!!

year 8 actually

 

[checkside]

isnt the poor boy married with two kids?

sorry if im wrong

but that would be hard at his age wouldnt it.?
what would he be 21?

Dont think he is married.
He has a 2 year old son.

 

[checkside]

Bagging Tambling now is like saying a kid's not going to make it through high school because they can't past VCE when they're in yr 10!!!

Trust me it happens.