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Tambling (merged)

Hancho said:
You're a great observer of the game CJM2005. Tambling is developing slowly and will be a better player in years to come, that's when I'll open and start chewing a few on here who have been bagging Tambling from day one, actually I can't wait.

I thought multiple user names was banned?
 
Disco08 said:
I seem to remember a 79kg Kerr flattening Daniel Cross once after giving him a bath for most of the game. I don't think he was laughing as they stretchered him off.

Glad you used the word 'once' in that sentence.
Like I keep saying....Bling will have his great quarters in the middle and then disappear....or he might even have an excellent game, but then do nothing for the next 3 weeks.
It's CONSISTENCY in the middle that I expect from a top-5 draft pick....and I think (and I hope I am wrong...more than happy to cop it from everyone on here if I am) that Bling is in the same boat as Wells from the Kangas.

Disco08 said:
Yep, it's that easy. That's why there's 100 potential Brownlow and AA players running around every year, not to mention the smokies picked up later in their respective drafts.

If we are drafting top-10 players to play in the midfield and do NOT expect them to be fighting for All-Australian honours (and maybe a Brownlow) in the future, then that to me shows how poor our recruiting is and how mediocrity is excepted at this club from people within the club and so-called supporters.
If we are wasting top picks on elite juniors who we don't expect to reach the elite level in the senior ranks just means we are drafting the wrong player.
ALL top-10 draft picks should be the BEST junior players who we hope will develop into the BEST senior players.....anything else is a failure, from either the club, the player themselves, or both.

Col.W.Kurtz said:
Lets see, there are 22 All Australians a year... Based on a average ten year career for a top ten pick (they don’t average that but you seem to have a lot of faith in high picks) that means there are 100 top 10 picks in the AFL at any one time. That means that even if the All-Australian team is exclusively made up of high picks, only one in five of top picks in the AFL at any one time are all-Australians.

And what is wrong with expecting Richmond top-10 picks to be All-Australians again?
If we really believe we are choosing youngsters that are great at junior level and can be developed into great senior players, then I don't see what the problem with expecting our players in the midfield to start being mentioned in the same breath as Judd, Dal Santo, Cornes, Black, Bartel, etc.

Lidsand said:
not worth arguing with liverpool about tambling. there is something abut bling that liverpool doesn't like and i dont think its got anything to do with his footballing talents

Totally agree....it has nothing to do with his footballing talents.
Obviously you've missed my past 100 posts on the topic... ???

What I do not like is:

* our recruiters drafting a player like Bling so high in the draft when we have more important deficiencies than a 180cm/80kg quick wingman.
* Wallace for playing him in the middle when the middle is not his best position....not now...and maybe never.
 
All Kurtz and I did was point out how stupid your statement that 'a top-10 pick should be someone that we should develop to either be a Brownlow Medal chance in the future or at least an All-Australian chance' was.

Liverpool said:
Glad you used the word 'once' in that sentence.
Like I keep saying....Bling will have his great quarters in the middle and then disappear....or he might even have an excellent game, but then do nothing for the next 3 weeks.

I know you keep saying it, but why do you keep saying it? What makes him any different to other guys his size who at his age were putting up similar performances and who are now consistently good inside mids?
 
Disco08 said:
All Kurtz and I did was point out how stupid your statement that 'a top-10 pick should be someone that we should develop to either be a Brownlow Medal chance in the future or at least an All-Australian chance' was.

What is so stupid about aiming high and demanding the best?
If we aren't drafting top-10 midfield talent at junor level with the expectation that they are going to be developed further into elite midfielders at senior level (and usually with that comes All-Australian and/or Brownlow recognition), then it shows you why we are, have been, and will continue to be mediocre if people have this "aim low" attitude.
 
Harry said:
Personally no. Of course I hope I'm wrong, but if I was a betting man I'd say no. Football smarts, awareness and composure are areas which are difficult to greatly improve IMO. As the old saying goes you either got it or you don't. Let's put more energy and resources into kids that have got it. I'd much rather see we place more focus onto Connors for an inside mid role, cos I think he's definately got it if he can get fully fit.

I'm not writing off Tambling and think he can be servicable on a flank and a deep forward, but don't think he's an answer to our midfield woes.
Agree there. Its kind of embarrasing having Tambling playing as an inside midfielder when he obviously isnt suited to it. He needs to be dished out the ball, and Foley cant do it himself. The recruitment of JON over Nathan Jones is going to kill us for a long time.
 
Liverpool said:
What is so stupid about aiming high and demanding the best?
If we aren't drafting top-10 midfield talent at junor level with the expectation that they are going to be developed further into elite midfielders at senior level (and usually with that comes All-Australian and/or Brownlow recognition), then it shows you why we are, have been, and will continue to be mediocre if people have this "aim low" attitude.

No one has an aim low attitude. You said 'a top-10 pick should be someone that we should develop to either be a Brownlow Medal chance' and we just pointed out that it was a stupid thing to say based on its mathematical impossibility.
 
Liverpool keeps going on about Tambling's size. I thought we'd alread confirmed that height to weight ratio, Tambling is close to the top at Richmond. There is nothing wrong with his size. He just needs the experience. Those who say he has lack of vision, I agree at the moment he does in close but experience will change that. It's a bit like if you drive on a highway and hit 100 km you suddenly feel like your going very fast yet if you've been doing 120 km for the last hour (k you slow down at the speed cameras) and you slow to 100km you feel like you're dawdling. It takes a while to attune to the faster pace of the AFL, Tambling has only played in the middle a few times, give him some time to attune and then make judgement.
 
play him in the forward line



fellas had a thought
i would like to see tambling playing a couple of games in our forward line.. i think he would be a good crumbing forward.. just to see how he goes..
thoughts on this!!

p.s i'm sick to death of people comparing tambling to franklin.. give it up.. it's done.. we can't change it.. in fact grow up
we need to show him faith and belief that he can be a gun.. in fact he will be a gun..
i have this terrible thought of one day getting rid of bling and then he turns out to be one of the champions of the game.

who's to say if we drafted franklin or roughy they would be any good at our club. not to say our club is crap but the belief and confedence with hawthorn is far better then ours is fair to say

thoughts!!!
 
Re: play him in the forward line

nath8855 said:
fellas had a thought
i would like to see tambling playing a couple of games in our forward line.. i think he would be a good crumbing forward.. just to see how he goes..

A very good idea nath, last Saturday at the G we lacked the small crumbers when the ball hit the ground especialy in that 1st half. If Tambling can play this role he could reinvent/find himself and have a new lease of life. Watching him kick that goal from 50 metres out last Saturday his reaction was very ecstatic as if he released a massive load off his shoulders, not to mention his jubilation.

Maybe Tambling can be our replacement for Krakouer.
 
Disco08 said:
No one has an aim low attitude. You said 'a top-10 pick should be someone that we should develop to either be a Brownlow Medal chance' and we just pointed out that it was a stupid thing to say based on its mathematical impossibility.

....and/or an All-Australian was the rest of it.

And it isn't a "mathematical impossibility"......we should be drafting all our top-10 picks based on them being elite junior players and aiming for them to be elite senior players....and along with that comes personal accolades such as All-Australian and Brownlows.

Using top-10 draft picks to get an elite junior midfielder that more than likely won't be an elite senior midfielder is simply wrong.....and why we are in the position we are in.
(see Bling and JON as perfect recent examples)
 
brownlows and all australians are irrelevant. what matters is the four points next week. winning games is what counts, competing in finals. i couldnt give a rats about media/umpire/advertising awards.