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Talking Politics

Bigotry?
I'm sick of people calling me a bigot or racist. I'm not.
Except for White South Africens.
And arabs
Possibly people from the balkans
Don't much like Americans either.
Or Kiwis - but the maoris are ok.
Can't stand whinging poms.

Now that I think about it (briefly) I really only like West Indians and Asians. And Aussies, white and black.
 
Disco08 said:
ssstone said:
every time i hear it used it s derogatory

You're kidding right? It's one of the most widely used terms of identification in Australia.
yes i know that disco but where i come from it is a derogartory description of a dole bludgeing. drug taking moccie wearin inbred ,think cletus the slack jawed yokel,or bylinda murphy .and i clearly stated you must be employed and paying taxes to gain entry :hihi
 
Curtis E Bear said:
struggletown3121 said:
Its the problem for anyone who has alighned with any political camp IMO.

You may agree with its views and directions some of the time, but to blindly defend each and every stance of a political party or its leader is close minded nonsense and laughable.

CF Doublethink


Barnstorming stuff Curt....that sums it up perfectly.
 
I find it a bit unsettling that I'd be waved straight into your pub by the bouncers s s s single bed. Not sure of how much fun I'd have once ensconced though. I reckon me'd have a fairly different view of what a spade was.
 
tigersnake said:
I find it a bit unsettling that I'd be waved straight into your pub by the bouncers s s s single bed. Not sure of how much fun I'd have once ensconced though. I reckon me'd have a fairly different view of what a spade was.
ahh you would make your own fun snake :hihi its a shovel these days i tell ya
 
tigersnake said:
jayfox said:
Also, it's all relative, isn't it. Houses are more expensive than they've ever been but wages are also higher than they've ever been.

but pound for pound, they are more expesive, even taking into account higher wages, thats the point, housing affordability is lower. Hence Howard's 'interest rate scaremongering doesn't wash.


Housing pain at 20-year high

Karen Collier

May 29, 2007 12:05pm
Article from: Herald-Sun


SOARING house prices have put the home ownership dream further out of reach with affordability at its worst level in 20 years.
Typical mortgage monthly repayments have jumped to $2387 for those trying to get their first foothold in the market, according to a report.



These now swallow a staggering 30.7 per cent of average first homebuyers' income, the Housing Industry Association says.

HIA managing director Ron Silberberg said the financial burden was the heaviest since its affordability index was established in 1984.

"This is a massive economic and social challenge for Australia," Mr Silberberg said.

............more of the article here...


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21813411-661,00.html
 
Tigerdog said:
tigersnake said:
jayfox said:
Also, it's all relative, isn't it. Houses are more expensive than they've ever been but wages are also higher than they've ever been.

but pound for pound, they are more expesive, even taking into account higher wages, thats the point, housing affordability is lower. Hence Howard's 'interest rate scaremongering doesn't wash.


Housing pain at 20-year high

Karen Collier

May 29, 2007 12:05pm
Article from: Herald-Sun


SOARING house prices have put the home ownership dream further out of reach with affordability at its worst level in 20 years.
Typical mortgage monthly repayments have jumped to $2387 for those trying to get their first foothold in the market, according to a report.



These now swallow a staggering 30.7 per cent of average first homebuyers' income, the Housing Industry Association says.

HIA managing director Ron Silberberg said the financial burden was the heaviest since its affordability index was established in 1984.

"This is a massive economic and social challenge for Australia," Mr Silberberg said.

............more of the article here...


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21813411-661,00.html
on those figures td that is $600 per week on a $415000 home. :spin new home buyers should get over the fact that $400000 buys nothing in the inner suburbs but $250000 to 275000 will get you into the market in the outer burbs.just like generations before ....move further out to make a start and i would like to ask ms collier what is typical ?does she mean a weatherboard in kew? or a parking space in malvern ?
 
Hmm, slagging off a segment of the market is a convenient way to distract from the problem that housing prices are artificially high. Of course some people will be willing to pay a premium to live where they want, be it an apartment in the inner suburbs or a McMansion in the outer suburbs. That is the free market. If you want to dictate to the opoulation how they spend their money and where they are allowed to live, you would be best off voting for a party like the Greens.

There are two factors at play here, prices are artificially high and transport from the outer suburbs, especially those that have developed post WW2, is woefully inadequate. The reason for the first factor is simple, it is a supply and demand problem caused by restriction on zoning approval. This is a council problem first and foremost. There needs to be less restriction on development.

The second problem is more complicated. For many people it is impractical or impossible to live somewhere where there is inadequate public transport. This is a problem that needs to be considered in the review of privatised public transport. There needs to be incentive for Connex or whoever takes up the franchise to build new lines to service the newer suburbs.

I'd also like to see more businesses migrate to the outer suburbs. I'm not sure how this can be achieved, but increasing population density in the suburbs may go some way to encouraging it.
 
The governments desire to contain urban sprawl has been a significant contributer.It's a double edge sword.They save charging us extra taxes by having to provide less services to the outer reaches but housing prices where most of us live(urban and rural centres) are artificially inflated.

Personal, non-housing debt is a more significant concern however,people are living beyond their means like never before.If the ALP do win this election,they are inheriting a poisoned chalice.I have serious doubts they have the means to cope sensibly with this problem.

Interesting times ahead.
 
Interesting development today regarding Dean Mighell, the boss of the ETU who was cuaght on tape of boasting about tricking employers into pay rises. Rudd has demanded and received his resignation from the ALP.
 
Who'd wanna be a political leader eh.

Every new day brings a new spot fire to extinguish.
 
Rudd would have loved this opportunity to demonstrate that he is 'tough on unions'. A little-too-perfect opportunity for the party to distance itself from the thuggish union image.

I must admit that the delightfully politically-incorrect, Latham-esque description of Howard as "a skidmark on the bedsheet of Australian politics" was amusing.
 
That's the beauty of unreconstructed union heavies though, they are unprofessional and irritating. Good to see there is still a place for the uncouth in our sanitised political world, even if that place is to be sacrificed on the altar.