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struggletown3121 said:
Its the problem for anyone who has alighned with any political camp IMO.

You may agree with its views and directions some of the time, but to blindly defend each and every stance of a political party or its leader is close minded nonsense and laughable.

Still, its made for some entertaining reading on this thread so, as you were................
I would agree with that.
 
Gypsy__Jazz said:
ssstone said:
undrull and gypsy what is your take on little kevvys opinion of appendages ??????????????????????? what about greg combets offering of "we just should move on" ? jeez i would love to see the outrage if janet howard owned this business . where is the outrage hypocrites ?? :rotfl very quiet on the left front ;D

I'm not a fan of Rudd, SSStone. I don't like most of what he does or says. Has to be a better alternative to johhny though.
[/quote give me a reason why gypsum? i asked you what you thought on mr garrisons opinion on women because if it was one of the libs let alone little jonny who who said this the outrage would have been felt on mars
 
tigersnake said:
Rosy, and anyone who thinks Rudds appendage comment was a slur on women are missing the point. The point he was trying to make was that our society has moved on from a time when women were seen ONLY as appendages to professional men, or any men for that matter. That’s how things used to be. He meant that now its valid for women to be A) just as professional/ entrepreneurial/ capable etc as their husbands or b) if they do stay home, society now values this role far higher than it used to and sees it as valid.

I’m not a massive fan of Rudd to be honest, but its ludicrous to interpret his comments as meaning he thinks women who don’t run businesses or work as appendages, the broad point is actually based on the opposite.
:spin :spin :spin :spin :spin
 
Anduril said:
"Refresh" as in reanimate, reinvigorate the debate on the status of women.

rosy23 said:
Both are personal judgements on another person's private way of life and I don't think either is acceptable to voice in the public arena. It makes no difference to me which party they came from. They are both equally abhorrent and unacceptable.

I thought my post was saying the same, obviously I wasn't clear enough.
more :spin :spin :spin :spin
 
struggletown3121 said:
Its the problem for anyone who has alighned with any political camp IMO.

You may agree with its views and directions some of the time, but to blindly defend each and every stance of a political party or its leader is close minded nonsense and laughable.

CF Doublethink
 
Getting away from Rudd and his slurs for a moment....how's the gay-rights lobby going?
We hear all this "treat us the same as heterosexual couples" line....and then they go ahead, and segregate themselves by this:

Gay pub can out straight patrons
Matt Doran
May 28, 2007 12:00am

A MELBOURNE pub catering for gay men has won the right to refuse entry to heterosexuals in a landmark ruling at the state planning tribunal.
The owners of Collingwood's Peel Hotel applied to ban straight men and women to try to prevent "sexually based insults and violence" towards its gay patrons.
The Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal last week granted the pub an exemption to the Equal Opportunity Act, effectively prohibiting entry to non-homosexuals.


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21804219-2862,00.html

Now, not that I would frequent such an establishment anyway, but it does highlight the hypocrisy of such a group.
They have been supported by the left-lobby for a long time by protesting how they are treated differently on some issues, yet here we have them now conducting bans, where if the shoe was on the other foot, and it was a heterosexual club (are any clubs called that anyway?) banning homosexuals, there would massive outcries about discrimination and the like, as well as class-actions, and compensation.

Secondly, how are they going to police this anyway?
Are gays branded with special tattoos, or do they give a secret handshake at the door, to distinguish themselves apart from heterosexuals?

Thirdly...interesting that lesbians are banned also, meaning it is a "male only" club....surely this is not only discrimination based on the sexual persuasion of patrons, but also, gender discrimination against females?

Finally....if any heterosexual people do go to this pub....why would they go there, unless they are mates with gays who go there?

As far as I am concerned, this is VCAT being hypocritical, and surely now, this has given other establishments the right to ban people on such matters also.
So much for "equal rights".

We can add this discrimination by a minority group to the list along with the "Indigenous Round" of footy (looking forward to a round celebrating the achievements of white players)...and pool bans for people who aren't Islam.


[/quote] livers i am about to buy a pub. in this pub unless you are white,male ,can prove you have employment,dont take drugs,pay taxes,drive a v8 ute,or have a desire to purchase one,drink australian beer,get up early to attend your local R.S.L dawn service on anzac day,enjoy ogleing women with nice tits,arse and legs ,call a spade a spade(thou these days its probably a shovel) own and can use a fishing rod,back a 6x4 trailer useing mirrors only ,know and be able to adjust the points on a 308(whoops sorry 5.0 litre) you will be denied entry.do ya reckon VCAT will back me?? :hihi
 
Curtis E Bear said:
struggletown3121 said:
Its the problem for anyone who has alighned with any political camp IMO.

You may agree with its views and directions some of the time, but to blindly defend each and every stance of a political party or its leader is close minded nonsense and laughable.

CF Doublethink
good read curtis .just about describes taxy bracksys entire philosophy the past 8 years
 
Doublethink.

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Orwell did good work.It's a neo-con call to arms.

Again the dancing milk is on fire!
 
ssstone said:
livers i am about to buy a pub. in this pub unless you are white,male ,can prove you have employment,dont take drugs,pay taxes,drive a v8 ute,or have a desire to purchase one,drink australian beer,get up early to attend your local R.S.L dawn service on anzac day,enjoy ogleing women with nice tits,arse and legs ,call a spade a spade(thou these days its probably a shovel) own and can use a fishing rod,back a 6x4 trailer useing mirrors only ,know and be able to adjust the points on a 308(whoops sorry 5.0 litre) you will be denied entry.do ya reckon VCAT will back me?? :hihi

Probably not Stony, as you're not part of a hypocritical minority group supported by leftist, vegan-eating, tree-hugging hippies.......but it sounds like a ripper of pub and I'd be there in a heart-beat! 8)

The funniest thing is mate....this same group(s) wanting gays to have the same rights as heterosexuals, are the same one who protest against the "war on terror" against the extreme Islams....yet the extreme Islams are the ones who punish homosexuals with the death penalty.....a penalty that civil-libertarians and human-rights activist are totally against, as they are against violence.......yet then they use violence at G20/S11........ :rofl

They have no bloody idea! ::)
 
Liverpool said:
Probably not Stony, as you're not part of a hypocritical minority group supported by leftist, vegan-eating, tree-hugging hippies.......but it sounds like a ripper of pub and I'd be there in a heart-beat! 8)

The funniest thing is mate....this same group(s) wanting gays to have the same rights as heterosexuals, are the same one who protest against the "war on terror" against the extreme Islams....yet the extreme Islams are the ones who punish homosexuals with the death penalty.....a penalty that civil-libertarians and human-rights activist are totally against, as they are against violence.......yet then they use violence at G20/S11........ :rofl

They have no bloody idea! ::)
dont worry livers the pub isnt far off :hihi but i think you could guess it wont be located in fitzroy ;D
 
poppa x said:
You won't get into my pub stony. A 308? That's a bloody Holden!
:rofl dont fret poppa.amongst the holdens i also own a nissan that cross dresses as a ford .and it is masculine :hihi
 
ssstone said:
livers i am about to buy a pub. in this pub unless you are white,male ,can prove you have employment,dont take drugs,pay taxes,drive a v8 ute,or have a desire to purchase one,drink australian beer,get up early to attend your local R.S.L dawn service on anzac day,enjoy ogleing women with nice tits,arse and legs ,call a spade a spade(thou these days its probably a shovel) own and can use a fishing rod,back a 6x4 trailer useing mirrors only ,know and be able to adjust the points on a 308(whoops sorry 5.0 litre) you will be denied entry.do ya reckon VCAT will back me?? :hihi

A pub full of bogans and no chicks. Sounds great.
 
Disco08 said:
ssstone said:
livers i am about to buy a pub. in this pub unless you are white,male ,can prove you have employment,dont take drugs,pay taxes,drive a v8 ute,or have a desire to purchase one,drink australian beer,get up early to attend your local R.S.L dawn service on anzac day,enjoy ogleing women with nice tits,arse and legs ,call a spade a spade(thou these days its probably a shovel) own and can use a fishing rod,back a 6x4 trailer useing mirrors only ,know and be able to adjust the points on a 308(whoops sorry 5.0 litre) you will be denied entry.do ya reckon VCAT will back me?? :hihi

A pub full of bogans and no chicks. Sounds great.

the chicks are brought in on the back of the ute at closing time.
 
Disco08 said:
ssstone said:
livers i am about to buy a pub. in this pub unless you are white,male ,can prove you have employment,dont take drugs,pay taxes,drive a v8 ute,or have a desire to purchase one,drink australian beer,get up early to attend your local R.S.L dawn service on anzac day,enjoy ogleing women with nice tits,arse and legs ,call a spade a spade(thou these days its probably a shovel) own and can use a fishing rod,back a 6x4 trailer useing mirrors only ,know and be able to adjust the points on a 308(whoops sorry 5.0 litre) you will be denied entry.do ya reckon VCAT will back me?? :hihi

A pub full of bogans and no chicks. Sounds great.
glad you think so :hihi but seriously disco what is a bogan ? and what is the cause of bigotry towards them ? ::)