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Steve Morris F/S

Carter said:
Cannot possibly play back as we near September.

Disposal either created a 50/50 or he dinked it 13 m and killed forward momentum.

No confidence in a position where it's needed.

Gotta make way as soon as possible.

Yep, sometimes people need to look at the actual result a player's disposal rather than looking at the efficiency/clangers columns.
 
Carter said:
Cannot possibly play back as we near September.

Disposal either created a 50/50 or he dinked it 13 m and killed forward momentum.

No confidence in a position where it's needed.

Gotta make way as soon as possible.

Agree.

Hopefully Grimes is good to go this week or next.
 
Chimptastic said:
Yep, sometimes people need to look at the actual result a player's disposal rather than looking at the efficiency/clangers columns.
I find this comment confusing , can you please elaborate or give examples? Ta
 
tigertim said:
I find this comment confusing , can you please elaborate or give examples? Ta

Think of the change in Cotchin's game, from those dinky one-two, high possession games, to his far more effective 'take on the game', high metres gained style that he's playing now.

Morris' game had no forward momentum or speed, and allowed their forwards time to cover/fill space.
 
evo said:
Kamden HB, Morris out Shank in.

This. Morris is a sideways footballer and good sides will pin him to the goal line and make his mistakes hurt.

Would anyone be comfortable with Morris in a final in the goal isolated against Cyril/Walters/Dahlhaus/Steven Motlop? Yikes.
 
Actually one on one as a negating defender is one of his strengths I would have said. He's got other deficiencies, pick one of those.

Yikes.
 
antman said:
Actually one on one as a negating defender is one of his strengths I would have said. He's got other deficiencies, pick one of those.

Yikes.

Cool, good luck with that.

Curious as to why you think we tried him forward if being a one on one negating defender is one of his strengths?

If it was workng so well why change it?
 
SCOOP said:
Cool, good luck with that.

Curious as to why you think we tried him forward if being a one on one negating defender is one of his strengths?

If it was workng so well why change it?

Silly question Scooper, but I'll give you an honest answer.

Dimma tried him as a defensive forward - maybe one reason for that was a back six that didn't require him given the form of Batch/Grimes/Houli. It also suited the lock-it in the forward fifty strategy Dimma was keen to use at certain times. You'd have to ask the selection panel but that's my reading of it.

We all know how that experiment turned out - one good game and plenty of bad. So back to the VFL he went. Now Grimes is out, Morris is in to do a job. We all know he's got serious limitations. But it's an honest assessment - his pressure and intensity is good one-out, given it's not a mismatch. Not perfect, but it's a strength he has.

You might disagree, that's fine. But the argument that because Dimma tried him forward therefore he can't defend one-out doesn't add up.
Oh, by the way, when Grimes or someone better is available, back the VFL he should go. But lets not make him out to be worse than he actually is.
 
antman said:
Silly question Scooper, but I'll give you an honest answer.

Dimma tried him as a defensive forward - maybe one reason for that was a back six that didn't require him given the form of Batch/Grimes/Houli. It also suited the lock-it in the forward fifty strategy Dimma was keen to use at certain times. You'd have to ask the selection panel but that's my reading of it.

We all know how that experiment turned out - one good game and plenty of bad. So back to the VFL he went. Now Grimes is out, Morris is in to do a job. We all know he's got serious limitations. But it's an honest assessment - his pressure and intensity is good one-out, given it's not a mismatch. Not perfect, but it's a strength he has.

You might disagree, that's fine. But the argument that because Dimma tried him forward therefore he can't defend one-out doesn't add up.
Oh, by the way, when Grimes or someone better is available, back the VFL he should go. But lets not make him out to be worse than he actually is.

Gee a lot of words to say "Ludicrous Brain Fart"
 
Dimma was wanting a small forward to replace Jake. Morris was worth a try and was given every opportunity, but wasn't up to it.

I like his hardness as a defender but we have a couple of tough nuts in Batch and Flossy who have gone well past him.
 
antman said:
But lets not make him out to be worse than he actually is.

If we delisted him, do you honestly think another club would take him in the draft?

He was dropped to VFL, did nothing to suggest a recall, while others put their hands up with consistent performances and were not rewarded.


I'm not blaming him for being picked, I just cannot understand why.
 
Tames said:
If we delisted him, do you honestly think another club would take him in the draft?

He was dropped to VFL, did nothing to suggest a recall, while others put their hands up with consistent performances and were not rewarded.


I'm not blaming him for being picked, I just cannot understand why.

Agreed
Doubt many could understand why
 
asian tetley said:
Agreed
Doubt many could understand why

I can, it's not rocket science boys. . Here's how it played out, pay close attention.

Grimes got injured. Dimma needed a replacement. He also wanted some grunt in the team after the Adelaide debacle. Picked Morris.

Hope that clears up the mystery.
 
antman said:
Silly question Scooper, but I'll give you an honest answer.

Dimma tried him as a defensive forward - maybe one reason for that was a back six that didn't require him given the form of Batch/Grimes/Houli. It also suited the lock-it in the forward fifty strategy Dimma was keen to use at certain times. You'd have to ask the selection panel but that's my reading of it.

We all know how that experiment turned out - one good game and plenty of bad. So back to the VFL he went. Now Grimes is out, Morris is in to do a job. We all know he's got serious limitations. But it's an honest assessment - his pressure and intensity is good one-out, given it's not a mismatch. Not perfect, but it's a strength he has.

You might disagree, that's fine. But the argument that because Dimma tried him forward therefore he can't defend one-out doesn't add up.
Oh, by the way, when Grimes or someone better is available, back the VFL he should go. But lets not make him out to be worse than he actually is.

I'm ok with that. He got squeezed out of the backline for being headless and a liability close to goal. Tried forward failed miserably and now he is nothing more than a depth footballer who is a on a long term deal.
 
SCOOP said:
I'm ok with that. He got squeezed out of the backline for being headless and a liability close to goal. Tried forward failed miserably and now he is nothing more than a depth footballer who is a on a long term deal.

Thats how i see it also...
 
Tenacious said:
Not allowed - might be deemed racist.

I listened to the game on the radio. Was surprised at the volume of booing by Richmond people.