You're making a lot of sense here, bully, but you're talking to crickets. Once you're in the gun here, it's very hard to get out of it.bullus_hit said:
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shaun hampson threads [merged]
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evo said:
He started well but was awful towards the end, so bad that he was subbed out of the game on one occasion. McEvoy also has one of the worst tap to advantage records of all the first rucks, it was part of the reason St Kilda let him go.
People need to cut Hampson some slack, sure there's room for improvement but there's also plenty to work with. His marking is nowhere near as bad as some are claiming, granted he's had a quiet few weeks but he could just as easily turn it around against Geelong.
McEvoy averaged nearly 5 marks per game in this so-called terrible season and has done so his entire career. Hampson hasn't taken even one mark in weeks. Maybe he will come good, but the exposed form thus far is very poor by any measure other than raw tap numbers.bullus_hit said:
Whilst playing for Carlscum Hampson in 2012 & 2013 averaged around 4 marks a game... I know thats not a huge result
Coming to play for us and being our 1st ruck hes averaging just over 1 mark a game. Clearly Hampsons main focus at training should marking the ball
Coming to play for us and being our 1st ruck hes averaging just over 1 mark a game. Clearly Hampsons main focus at training should marking the ball
evo said:
You're comparing apples with oranges here, McEvoy is noted for his work around the ground not for his tap work. If you don't place a premium on taps to advantage then McEvoy is your man but as far as Hampson's marking ability is concerned, I think many here are placing way too much emphasis on a couple of quiet matches. It's almost as though some are not expecting him to take another mark for the rest of the season. We got completely outclassed by Hawthorn on many levels, singling out one player when the whole team were poor is scapegoating IMO, let's just wait and see how he goes over the next couple of matches.
Last week in his edits Hardwick quoted it as 37%, at the time it was the best in the league.tigertim said:
tigertim said:
It was mentioned in the article you posted.
"This year, he wins a hitout-to-advantage at 20.7 per cent of ruck contests he attends, which is ranked second only to Fremantle’s Aaron Sandilands, who achieves that feat at 21.4 per cent."
I'm not a fan but, wasn't Hampson in doubt last week due injury?
Is he playing with a slight injury?
He definitely wasn't moving too well...
Is he playing with a slight injury?
He definitely wasn't moving too well...
Worst mark I've ever seen for a ruckman. Even worse than Angus Graham (and he was dreadful overhead).
Can't be played purely on ruck hitouts alone. Needs to make some impact around the ground. Skills are non-existent.
Can't be played purely on ruck hitouts alone. Needs to make some impact around the ground. Skills are non-existent.
Tigers2011 said:
I can see this thread is about to descend into a whipping boy frenzy, maybe we should just sack Hampson and play Stephenson for the next 5 years. :spin
bullus_hit said:
So he is averaging 35 hit outs of which 21% go to adv. So about 7 per game.
Stephenson averages 19 Hitouts of which say 15% go to adv - about 3 per game. And he offers little more around the ground than Hampson.
Would a Vickery/Griffiths combo be that much worse?
I understand that Hampson is a better ruckman and would possibly offer better resistance to being dominated by the opposition ruckman but is 2 HTA per quarter enough when you have never really offered much else?
