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shaun hampson threads [merged]

should We Recruit Him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 106 33.8%
  • No

    Votes: 173 55.1%
  • Cheese Sandwich / Don't Care

    Votes: 35 11.1%

  • Total voters
    314
SAF said:
I'd expect Big Boy to be a much better player at Haw than he was at StK, just like Guerra, Gibson, Hale, Gunston and Lake before him. Haw has done extremely well in this trade, I can't understand what StK is thinking - who is going to play ruck for them next year? Wooden spoon is their future I reckon.

Agree on the Hawk's they have done well.
By the same token Grigg, Houli, Maric, Chaplin, Knights (before injury) & to a lesser degree Azza & Pettard have done OK as well.

On a side note I'm hoping SAF has something to do with Sth Africa not what I'm afraid it stands for? ;)
 
This Is Anfield said:
On a side note I'm hoping SAF has something to do with Sth Africa not what I'm afraid it stands for? ;)

Thumbs up ...if its what i think it is :spin
 
Skills said:
Four years into a rebuild & Hampson hey? Big mistake!
You were a mistake.......... And they gave you a chance.
Let Shaun have a crack before we try to abort him... Will be #2 at the Tigs as opposed to trying to force him to play KP
 
I just had a peak at Hampson's ruck highlights and he looks like a fairly accomplished tap ruckman. The stats also show he knows how to give the onballers first use so this has to bode well for our engine room. Even if his kicking is a bit dicey from time to time, I think we have a player who can contribute to the cause.
 
This Is Anfield said:
Agree on the Hawk's they have done well.
By the same token Grigg, Houli, Maric, Chaplin, Knights (before injury) & to a lesser degree Azza & Pettard have done OK as well.

On a side note I'm hoping SAF has something to do with Sth Africa not what I'm afraid it stands for? ;)

Not sure what u think SAF stands for, so safe to say u have nothing to be afraid of. And no it has nothing to do with south Africa
 
SAF said:
Not sure what u think SAF stands for, so safe to say u have nothing to be afraid of. And no it has nothing to do with south Africa

Sir Alex Ferguson, SAF is used by a lot of Utd supporters.

I like to refer him as the "Drunken Old Govan Tramp"

So, if it's not too rude to ask, what does SAF stand for?
 
bullus_hit said:
I just had a peak at Hampson's ruck highlights and he looks like a fairly accomplished tap ruckman. The stats also show he knows how to give the onballers first use so this has to bode well for our engine room. Even if his kicking is a bit dicey from time to time, I think we have a player who can contribute to the cause.

Yep.
I know you originally felt like a mouth watering prezzy got nicked out of the Chrissy stocking bullus when we traded pick 28 for Megan, but i reckon the recruitment strategy, benefits for team structure and the individual upside is pretty clear.
 
bullus_hit said:
I just had a peak at Hampson's ruck highlights and he looks like a fairly accomplished tap ruckman. The stats also show he knows how to give the onballers first use so this has to bode well for our engine room. Even if his kicking is a bit dicey from time to time, I think we have a player who can contribute to the cause.

Yep. A bit of the Greg Stafford type. Kicking won't be too much of priority for him.
 
17 said:
Yep.
I know you originally felt like a mouth watering prezzy got nicked out of the Chrissy stocking bullus when we traded pick 28 for Megan, but i reckon the recruitment strategy, benefits for team structure and the individual upside is pretty clear.

Yeah 17, I'm definitely starting to see some method behind the madness. Losing a high pick isn't ideal but as you suggest, he's perfect for our structure - more so than either McEvoy & Longer. If he can start to clunk a few more grabs and play within his limitations on the kicking front, I believe he can become a valuable contributor and provide a bit of flexibility. Potentially having Vickery, Hampson, Riewoldt & McBean all playing together will be nightmarish for opposition coaches, and all these guys are mobile types as well.

Now we need to focus on snaring a 40 goal crumbing forward.
 
This Is Anfield said:
Sir Alex Ferguson, SAF is used by a lot of Utd supporters.

I like to refer him as the "Drunken Old Govan Tramp"

So, if it's not too rude to ask, what does SAF stand for?

Just call me Sir
 
I like this Hampson trade. Now.

When we took Chaplin I posted that we'd taken a bloke who most of his career had been a HBF pretending to be a HFF. And I vividly remember a game in 2011 where I said to a fellow student that I would give him $50 is Chaplin touched the ball above chest height for the entire game. He didn't.

But in 2012 Chaplin had a break out year. He was rested for the last four rounds(?) and but for that would have gone close to Port's B&F. In 2013 Chaplin demonstrated that he had emerged as a key back. Still not strong overhead he positions himself beautifully and but for the odd blooper gave us much needed structure and quick positive use. He had grown into his paws, largely. (Except for that final - ouch. Very bad. I put it down to immaturity.)

Shaun Hampson. He's been injured for 2012 and 2013. Crucial years as a 24yo and 25yo. So his development has been stymied.

One of the hallmarks of his game as a young ruck was his Gumpus. Luke McGun would guffaw at the worst of young Shaun Hampson. I had concluded, a couple of years ago, that he was an athlete (possibly blind or *smile*) playing the game.

Another drawback, Shaun Hampson is not built for the game. Sure, he's massive but he's broad-shouldered, lean hipped and a bit leggy. He's a diver not a footballer. (I wonder what Megan Gale sees in him.)

But. The bloke can clunk. And moves to the holes well, using his body naturally to protect his passage to the ball. Sometimes.

This is something I didn't know about him - he jumps off the right or of both (basketball) and is totally amby when palming. He makes brilliant decisions in a nano and can be very effective.

Costs us 250k for three(?) years and may yet bloom.

And pick 28.

We approached them. Blair wants Hampson. You don't poach a borderline senior ruck for much less. And here's the thing - Carlton poached Warnock (the bloke who maimed Ivan in that final). Warnock is on a big long contract. They can't trade Warnock. He has to play next year. So does Kreuzer. Hampster can't. Just 250K? And our panel thinks he has it. 28 was fine if they're right.

Structurally, Ivan is factored in as I see it. I'm onboard with the two rucks makes us better school. The thing I want to say about the structural importance of this recruit is that IMO Richmond was aerially weak in 2013. We need men in the air. A contest is a lot. Maybe Hampson will give us what we need.

One more thing, Hampson gets air.

Next year, if we're bleeding at the ruck contests, we can send in someone who can jump (high) with the single instruction - he must not influence the ball.
 
Dyer'ere said:
I like this Hampson trade. Now.

When we took Chaplin I posted that we'd taken a bloke who most of his career had been a HBF pretending to be a HFF. And I vividly remember a game in 2011 where I said to a fellow student that I would give him $50 is Chaplin touched the ball above chest height for the entire game. He didn't.

But in 2012 Chaplin had a break out year. He was rested for the last four rounds(?) and but for that would have gone close to Port's B&F. In 2013 Chaplin demonstrated that he had emerged as a key back. Still not strong overhead he positions himself beautifully and but for the odd blooper gave us much needed structure and quick positive use. He had grown into his paws, largely. (Except for that final - ouch. Very bad. I put it down to immaturity.)

Shaun Hampson. He's been injured for 2012 and 2013. Crucial years as a 24yo and 25yo. So his development has been stymied.

One of the hallmarks of his game as a young ruck was his Gumpus. Luke McGun would guffaw at the worst of young Shaun Hampson. I had concluded, a couple of years ago, that he was an athlete (possibly blind or *smile*) playing the game.

Another drawback, Shaun Hampson is not built for the game. Sure, he's massive but he's broad-shouldered, lean hipped and a bit leggy. He's a diver not a footballer. (I wonder what Megan Gale sees in him.)

But. The bloke can clunk. And moves to the holes well, using his body naturally to protect his passage to the ball. Sometimes.

This is something I didn't know about him - he jumps off the right or of both (basketball) and is totally amby when palming. He makes brilliant decisions in a nano and can be very effective.

Costs us 250k for three(?) years and may yet bloom.

And pick 28.

We approached them. Blair wants Hampson. You don't poach a borderline senior ruck for much less. And here's the thing - Carlton poached Warnock (the bloke who maimed Ivan in that final). Warnock is on a big long contract. They can't trade Warnock. He has to play next year. So does Kreuzer. Hampster can't. Just 250K? And our panel thinks he has it. 28 was fine if they're right.

Structurally, Ivan is factored in as I see it. I'm onboard with the two rucks makes us better school. The thing I want to say about the structural importance of this recruit is that IMO Richmond was aerially weak in 2013. We need men in the air. A contest is a lot. Maybe Hampson will give us what we need.

One more thing, Hampson gets air.

Next year, if we're bleeding at the ruck contests, we can send in someone who can jump (high) with the single instruction - he must not influence the ball.

*edit* look I hope I'm wrong but I think I'm in the minority who doesn't rate Hampson's arial ability. I see a top heavy athlete who doesn't read the ball well in flight. He only takes a contested grab when he gets on the train tacks a mile out and the ball has no choice but to go to him.
 
Col.W.Kurtz said:
*edit* look I hope I'm wrong but I think I'm in the minority who doesn't rate Hampson's arial ability. I see a top heavy athlete who doesn't read the ball well in flight. He only takes a contested grab when he gets on the train tacks a mile out and the ball has no choice but to go to him.


Different issues, Colonel, IMO. Forward and ruck.

As a foward SH's job is Luke McGuane's - first hands to the ball when it comes in. McGuane could do that. Hampster can too. What McCarey couldn't do is maim blokes who got in his way. HampsCarey can.

Getting air at a ruck contest is about leap and will. Ivan can't. Vickery won't. Hampson can and will if we can get him right.

Ya gotta get air at a crucial bounce. The two we've got can't/won't. Let's see if Blair's right.

BTW at the beginning of 2013 nobody knew how Vickery would turn out. Griffiths played R1 but not again. Elton improved but not quantum and took fifteen games to stop going backwards. And Ivan was injured, sure, but he didn't deal with it. Our ruck stucks did not deliver on a single unknown. Then became known. Derrickx? Nah.

Hampson is a bit of a reach. But every ruck we had in 2013 let us down IMO.
 
I think the major driver for the so called over-reaching is the fact that he compliments Ivan (and Orren) as a more athletic, high-leaping ruckman, exactly the sort that Ivan has struggled to contain this year. Will give more flexibility at selection based on who we are playing.

While clearly McEvoy is a much better ruckman than Hampson, I can accept that he is similar to Ivan and no need for two lumbering ruckman running around the same field.
 
i really hope we pick up someone else as this Hampson thread is getting tired..
 
Tiger17 said:
i really hope we pick up someone else as this Hampson thread is getting tired..
700+ posts and 50 pages in a week is a pretty healthy start to a career at tigerland.

Personally, I don't think there has been anywhere near enough analysis as to what Meagan brings to the club.
 
Dangerous to speculate on what Meaghan brings to the club.

Might get labelled as a misogynist!!!! :rofl