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shaun hampson threads [merged]

should We Recruit Him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 106 33.8%
  • No

    Votes: 173 55.1%
  • Cheese Sandwich / Don't Care

    Votes: 35 11.1%

  • Total voters
    314
Once again, no one wants Hampson to fail and I for one will be more than happy to admit I was wrong with my opinion of Hampson just like I was more than willing to admit I was wrong about Jackson.

One issue is the price we paid and how quickly we paid it. Carlton needed to free some cap space for Thomas our offer should have been third round. Trade period is three weeks the longer we held out the more desperate they would have become. Obviously we saw a need and he filled that need but there is still getting the best result for the club. If Hawthorn and Longer deal fell through and they started sniffing around then we sign but we had to try. I haven't seen to many say that we paid a fair price for Hampson.

Come round 1 and if he runs out I will be supporting him and every other Richmond player.
 
brigadiertiger said:
Once again, no one wants Hampson to fail and I for one will be more than happy to admit I was wrong with my opinion of Hampson just like I was more than willing to admit I was wrong about Jackson.

One issue is the price we paid and how quickly we paid it. Carlton needed to free some cap space for Thomas our offer should have been third round. Trade period is three weeks the longer we held out the more desperate they would have become. Obviously we saw a need and he filled that need but there is still getting the best result for the club. If Hawthorn and Longer deal fell through and they started sniffing around then we sign but we had to try. I haven't seen to many say that we paid a fair price for Hampson.

Come round 1 and if he runs out I will be supporting him and every other Richmond player.

Would've had to give a 1st round for longer was a top 10 pick I think?
 
brigadiertiger said:
Once again, no one wants Hampson to fail and I for one will be more than happy to admit I was wrong with my opinion of Hampson just like I was more than willing to admit I was wrong about Jackson.

One issue is the price we paid and how quickly we paid it. Carlton needed to free some cap space for Thomas our offer should have been third round. Trade period is three weeks the longer we held out the more desperate they would have become. Obviously we saw a need and he filled that need but there is still getting the best result for the club. If Hawthorn and Longer deal fell through and they started sniffing around then we sign but we had to try. I haven't seen to many say that we paid a fair price for Hampson.

Come round 1 and if he runs out I will be supporting him and every other Richmond player.

I think we paid a fair price for Hampson.
I'm glad we struck early and got the deal done and out of the way, removing competition while others mulled their options.
A glaring weakness has been plugged.
You and I don't know what negotiations preceded the outcome, but in my view we have a positive outcome and on the reported salary, potentially an outrageous bargain.
 
I suppose, reluctantly, I agree with the price. IIRC he was pick 17 in his draft year and rucks attract premium deals. The lad has some tools we can work with.
 
GEDS1 said:
I suppose, reluctantly, I agree with the price. IIRC he was pick 17 in his draft year and rucks attract premium deals. The lad has some tools we can work with.

Good to see GEDS, pertinent point there is he has some tools & now it's up to us to make the most of it.

Confident that, barring injury, we will bring out the best of Shaun.
 
Yes it's true, you always pay overs for ruckmen. I don't know how well Hampson will go but I'd prefer to pick up mature age ruckmen than raw 18 year olds that you have to keep on the list for 6-8 years before knowing if they'll make it. Many of the premiership clubs have done just this with their rucking stocks.
 
tigertim said:
McEvoy to the Hawks........ :help

We already had a McEvoy "type" in Maric, so unless Richmond wanted to and were able to trade out Maric (no thanks), I don't think we should have pursued this player.
 
17 said:
We already had a McEvoy "type" in Maric, so unless Richmond wanted to and were able to trade out Maric (no thanks), I don't think we should have pursued this player.

How is Mcevoy a "Maric" type? And why would it bad to have 2 "Marics"? What type is Hampson?
 
Hayfever said:
I've closely reviewed three different highlight videos of Hampson and am amazed at the attitude of some posters towards him. For mine he is the ideal big man fit for the Tigers in terms of age, size, athletic ability, versatility and experience.

One only has to go back to Brad Ottens to see how much we mismanaged him. A big, mobile ruckman who could also dominate a forward line. IIRC correctly there are still some here on PRE with the same doubts on Hampson as they once had on Ottens. I guess Geelong proved otherwise when Brad was instrumental in helping them win 3 flags at ages 27, 29 and 31!

In all seriousness we need to go way back to the days of David Cloke to get an idea what Hampson can provide us with. Back then Cloke paid ruck/CHF and, at times, a kick behind the play. Roach was the gun forward(as Riewoldt is now) with Cloke crashing packs around CHF. He took heaps of marks, kicked plenty of goals and sprayed plenty, and our crumbers had a field day around him. We haven't won a flag since he left to go to Collingwood. Has to be a message there somewhere!

Tye Vickery should develop into an enormous asset for us. At this stage though he is not a ruckman in my opinion. Relying on him and Maric for at least the next 12 months is too big an ask. Tye is not yet ready and the work load is too big for Ivan alone. Many times this year he played injured because we could not do without him. Manage him better, use Hampson as the main ruck back-up, develop Tyrone more gradually and use Orren Stephenson as a very solid reliable stop-gap.

In summary I reckon we can now give a top 4 finish a big shake in 2014. Without Hampson we would struggle to stay in the 8. Time will tell!

Well said old chap!!
 
tigertim said:
How is Mcevoy a "Maric" type? And why would it bad to have 2 "Marics"? What type is Hampson?

Old style, bash and crash type ruckman, unable to get much elevation, not fast around the ground.
Hampson is the opposite.
 
17 said:
Old style, bash and crash type ruckman, unable to get much elevation, not fast around the ground.
Hampson is the opposite.

Yep both Maric and McEvoy get jumped on by Nic Nat and Minson types, McEvoy is good old style kick behind the play ruckman
 
McEvoy 11th in their B&F from 22 games, is quite a poor result

I didn't watch much of St K this year but I thought he was better than that in a poor team
 
Shane Savage alone is worth a draft pick around 30-40. McEvoy has moved for the equivalent of a late 1st rounder and a late 2nd rounder/early 3rd.

If we were to have had any chance of getting him, the trade would have been our pick 11 and a player such as Helbig/Astbury/Dea/Batchelor/Griffiths. The Saints gave up pick 13 for Hickey last year. The Hawks gave up an end-of-round 1 compo pick for Hale a couple of years ago. Mumford was traded for pick 28 and he was only a rookie at the time. Longer was top 10 pick and I'll bet the Lions are after something similar or they will back themselves to talk him into another contract.

Rucks are expensive. That's why I keep harping on about using the rookie list to develop a number of young ruckmen. You can always sell the ones you don't want.

Otherwise, you are trading first and second-rounders for the likes of Maric and Hampson, and counting yourself lucky to get them.
 
17 said:
Old style, bash and crash type ruckman, unable to get much elevation, not fast around the ground.
Hampson is the opposite.

How many games has Hampson played in the last 3 years compared to Mac?
 
se7en said:
How many games has Hampson played in the last 3 years compared to Mac?

Is that a trick question?
People have short memories, if you want see McEvoy watch the game against us. He was BOG bya mile.
 
zippadeee said:
Is that a trick question?
People have short memories, if you want see McEvoy watch the game against us. He was BOG bya mile.

Did he get the 3 votes in the Brownlow, or even 1 vote! Remember, BOG by a mile you said.