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shaun hampson threads [merged]

should We Recruit Him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 106 33.8%
  • No

    Votes: 173 55.1%
  • Cheese Sandwich / Don't Care

    Votes: 35 11.1%

  • Total voters
    314
leon said:
How about you tell us who you'd like to ruck against Mummy next week and how they will go? [Luckily for us, big Mummy is hurt and may not play or play well!].

But, you see, it won't happen because the coaching panel/selectors at RFC for some odd reason do not see it like you do (the fools).
Being the fool I am I'd play ........Hampson! And he'll do what he always does. Get about 8 possessions, 1 or 2 marks, a good lot of hit outs and provide a giggle or 2 ( they should put that on the Stats sheet....)
 
tigertim said:
Being the fool I am I'd play ........Hampson! And he'll do what he always does. Get about 8 possessions, 1 or 2 marks, a good lot of hit outs and provide a giggle or 2 ( they should put that on the Stats sheet....)

So now you see it, Tim. You've come to the same conclusion. Well-done. Knew you'd get there in the end. BTW, given the year we're having, I actually appreciate the giggle; eases the pain slightly. It's all about the deals, trades and draft for next year now; along with whose doing what at RFC.
 
tigertim said:
Hampson: 9 disposals (3k, 6h) @67% DE, 4 contested possessions, 74 metres gained, 1 mark, 1 clearance, 3 tackles, 36 HO (44% HOTA) in 80% game time.

Ceglar: 17 disposals (11 k, 6hb) @ 47% DE, 10 contested possessions, 243 metres gained, 7 marks, 1 clearance, 3 tackles in 22 HO (22% HOTA) in 84% game time.

A side cannot afford to carry a guy who is on the ground for 80% of the game and FOLLOWS the ball but only gets the ball 9 times. Yes, we all know his HO's crap on the others and that's great but when he's not doing anything after that he just becomes a passenger.

Ceg had a rare day out in the Sun.
 
UKTiger said:
In reality, he is all we have in ruck stocks

So lets not worry about the ruck position for the last 5 games.

Develop Cholly for 2018 and try and trade in for a competent ruck next year.

Bring in another runner and ruck Griff Vickery and/or Beanie. If you leave Ty out bring in another runner, Say try Marcon.

We have stuffed up the year again but we now have some time to experiment and get some game time into some kids.

You know what will happen though? Back to the future.
 
axlefoley said:
Is that you Penny spinning crap again :hihi

But whose Penny anyway? Penny Henny? Too late.

The sky has already fallen in on another year at RFC.
 
tigertim said:
Hampson: 9 disposals (3k, 6h) @67% DE, 4 contested possessions, 74 metres gained, 1 mark, 1 clearance, 3 tackles, 36 HO (44% HOTA) in 80% game time.

Ceglar: 17 disposals (11 k, 6hb) @ 47% DE, 10 contested possessions, 243 metres gained, 7 marks, 1 clearance, 3 tackles in 22 HO (22% HOTA) in 84% game time.

A side cannot afford to carry a guy who is on the ground for 80% of the game and FOLLOWS the ball but only gets the ball 9 times. Yes, we all know his HO's crap on the others and that's great but when he's not doing anything after that he just becomes a passenger.

Interesting looking at this again. Hampson was 20% more effective in DE; dominated him in HOs (14+); and doubled him in HOTA%. That's not all bad; on a wettish, blustery day with a slippery surface. However, Ceglar is an improving player, only 25 so just coming into his prime, 98 kgs and 204cm, so even taller than Hampson. His draft history I found interesting:

- 2010 NAB AFL Draft traded by Gold Coast to Collingwood for No. 25 (Patrick Karnezis); 2013 Rookie Draft selection (Hawthorn) No. 15; 2013 NAB AFL Draft rookie elevation (Hawthorn) selection No. 59.

This bears out what Dyer're has put up before - you don't have to give away the world to obtain a decent ruckman. The Dawks prove you don't even have to get a champion. But you need to study the field carefully and select astutely from a club with plentiful supply so someone is under-valued. But we will almost definitely require H for another year as our No.1. Think the club is definitely on the hunt, but clubs are not going to let their best reserve ruckman go easily, anyone in football appreciates their value (though not all expert fans).

Saints have re-signed Longer and Pierce for another 2 years announced today. Don't think there are many easy 'grabs' in top reserve rucks, but it would depend on what you want to pay. Finally, reports are that Soldo played well in the VFL game:

McRae's report - "Ivan Soldo, 32 hit-outs, four disposals, three clearances

Minimal touches, but in the ruck he was really important. He showed that he can dominate around the ground in the hit-outs and was really important for us to stabilise, and in the end win, clearance on the day."

And from VFL thread, Tony B/H posted - "Soldo: he killed the ruck. His taps were like alley-oops and he gave some great contests."

Being mentored and assisted by big EEvan will help him, but sounds too much like another Hammer for some, I'd say!
 
lamb22 said:
So lets not worry about the ruck position for the last 5 games.

Develop Cholly for 2018 and try and trade in for a competent ruck next year.

Bring in another runner and ruck Griff Vickery and/or Beanie. If you leave Ty out bring in another runner, Say try Marcon.

We have stuffed up the year again but we now have some time to experiment and get some game time into some kids.

You know what will happen though? Back to the future.

Fine, seems a valid opinion. Not sure rucking against a beast like Mummy is the best time to experiment. But, heh, he's on one good leg anyway. Brodey got well-beaten by him the other week in the 1stQ, then got right on top and dominated thereafter because he ran him off his dodgy legs. If TV (??) and Griff are prepared to do this, good.

Dimma certainly can try some things now and he is! He is playing Rioli, Short, Markov, Castagna, McBean and now Drummond. That's one-third of a team. So, overall, isn't your main point redundant? Looks like (part of) the future to me.
 
How bad is this bloke? Absolute liability out there today.

Can't possibly get another contract extension.
 
Smoking Aces said:
How bad is this bloke? Absolute liability out there today.

Can't possibly get another contract extension.

Absolute king sized dud. What a *smile* kicker
 
Hammer just proves that BH must go, his the reason we have him......Hammer try's but his just not much chop, not his fault BH got him too the club......sadly best ruck we have
 
3 disposals, 3 clangers. His net worth is through the roof. Mumford's had 10 disposals, 8 contested. Giving Hampson a bath.