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shaun hampson threads [merged]
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If Hammer keeps improving at this rate we will all be very happy, abd I will owe many apologies.
I already do
Go hammo!!
I already do
Go hammo!!
Better today against the Suns.
Mark and goal had me shaking my head in disbelief.
HOTA quota very high too.
Mark and goal had me shaking my head in disbelief.
HOTA quota very high too.
Dyer'ere said:
I laughed too Jack but not as much as I did for Batchelor's attempted shot at goal from 50m.
Ooooh! How embarrassment was that. Even though it happened to us n we were seriously hanging out for something halfway competent, Batch's effort was sinus clearing choke on the drink standard.Tigers of Old said:
From an extremely low base. For me he is still not good enough overall. To many minuses against too few plusses so will never be the answer to our woes. We need to draft an accomplished ruckman and not rely on a ruckman who is very limitedCC TIGER said:
Prefer Hampson who killed him in the hitouts today, but then has beaten the majority of his opponents all year in this respect. However, he is harshly judged here by those who, like Lambshanks, think he is responsible for both - the ruck-work and the clearance too - as if the rest of the supposed highly-trained, paid and coached midfield should have it hit them on the chest 5m in the clear continually. As if Hampson should be Superman - one moment flying through the air, cape-out, palming the ball down successfully from 3m high, next at ground level in and under collecting the pill, then sprinting goal-ward away from enemy tackling speedsters!
Look at how they get beaten frequently because better mids from the opposition read, position and move better to intercept and takeaway his hitouts, like Ablett* today, or Norf's team, or the other top quality mids who leave our crew for dead. It's a tricky area but I always want a ruck who can win the HOs. It should mean a winning game when your midfield team is high calibre like the top 5 teams.
*Ablett nearly doubled the no. of clearances of our best today, Dusty, because he read Hammer's ruck-work better than our bunch of ordinaries. And Miles had a poor game.
Look at how they get beaten frequently because better mids from the opposition read, position and move better to intercept and takeaway his hitouts, like Ablett* today, or Norf's team, or the other top quality mids who leave our crew for dead. It's a tricky area but I always want a ruck who can win the HOs. It should mean a winning game when your midfield team is high calibre like the top 5 teams.
*Ablett nearly doubled the no. of clearances of our best today, Dusty, because he read Hammer's ruck-work better than our bunch of ordinaries. And Miles had a poor game.
If Hampson taps to us, we are still down 4-3 in clearance players at centre contests. If Hampson taps to them we are effectively playing 3 to their 5 in centre contests.
Asolutely horrible player. We got beaten about 14 -10 in centre clearances and they usually got a run on when Hampson went in there.
If we cant get a benefit in clearances there is absolutely no reason to play Hampson.
Hardwick reckons he goes alright though so lets await the extension.
Asolutely horrible player. We got beaten about 14 -10 in centre clearances and they usually got a run on when Hampson went in there.
If we cant get a benefit in clearances there is absolutely no reason to play Hampson.
Hardwick reckons he goes alright though so lets await the extension.
lamb22 said:
And you simply reverse that logic and those numbers when we intercept a tap from their opposing ruckman. You keep twisting logic - Hampson does not deliberately tap to the opposition. He is attempting to knock it where our guys are meant to be. But players like Ablett, Selwood, Mitchell, Swallow read the play so much better they often beat our guys to the drop. Top mids do this for virtually all rucks. The ruckman cannot totally control this. He is not operating solo in a vacuum. A clearance is not the automatic outcome of a winning HO - there are multiple other variables. But I want a winning ruck at CBs to have the best opportunity of winning the clearance. When the midfield loses a clearance it may be due to movements and factors at ground level, not the fault of tapping the ball down - e.g. smarts and toughness is a big factor, along with great anticipation and hands.
You make out that Hampson does absolutely nothing else because you are so in denial about him. You have backed yourself into a corner where you refuse to concede he is an excellent tap ruckman and we certainly have none better. Although Griff is a very handy back-up and developing; but as I have stated way back, he is also a strong forward option too.
I am the first to agree H is a limited player: clumsy, unco and makes some errors so bad you don't know whether to laugh or cry. But he did some good things today, as he has in other games, besides HOs. You just have to be so right about it, you're blind. He can improve and I actually think Hammer is showing signs of it from just getting continuity as No.1 ruck, not missing from injury etc. He does some bullocking, shepherding and tackles (or attempts because not quick enough to catch many). Marking is unreliable to awful but not without hope. He was beaten around the ground by Daw, but most of the side had a shocker.
You've had the wrong player in the gun all along - always Hammer, sometimes Griff - never Vickery. Please don't try to keep telling me, or most on here, he is a more useful and valuable player for RFC. Generally Ty is just embarrassing as was today and will never make a true centre ruck because he avoids body contact. Happy to see McBean given a go instead of TV; or better still someone like Callum Moore who is the fast, high-marking, athletic tall we need up there instead of two slows.
