shaun hampson threads [merged]

[Barnzy]

When Dimma stated that Hampson's becoming the player the club thought he'd become, I hope he was imagining an inanimate carbon rod.

 

[tigertim]

When Dimma stated that Hampson's becoming the player the club thought he'd become, I hope he was imagining an inanimate carbon rod.

No, he was being honest. Hampy has become the player the club thought he'd become: a low possession, non marking lamp post who is only allowed to handball and never kicks a goal.

Recruit of the decade.

 

[tempany14]

Hampson will not only be the recruit of the decade but of the century his performances are becoming Lounderesque

 

[Willo]

I just knew it! The AFL site says Hampson was one of our best tonight. Now I know the clowns they employ to report on games know less about the game than I do.

Bit a difference between being "one of our best" and being a good player.
The first is an indictment on the rest of the team. It doesn't mean he was a good player though.

 

[DragicevicFan]

Never seen a bloke get two hands around the ball as often as he does yet fail to take the mark.

He just doesn't have the simple coordination to catch a ball. Pretty crucial skill for an elite player to not have.

Tries to mark with flat hands.

It's bordering on a miracle that he even got drafted, and then had a second club take him on with such a poor skill set.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Hampy.

8 disposals, (3k and 5 HB), @ 62% DE,

Three kicks n five handballs at 62% disposal efficiency. I'm guessing he must have flubbed one kick n two of his dinky little hand passes. Would have taken him two kicks n three handpasses to make all of sixty metres of distance.
Hamster you farking legend, hope Ivvy has a blinder tomorrow against Coburg. At least when he's fit he offers some grunt contest n works his on ballers into the game.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Hamper may have won the hit outs against Majak, but not sure how many were to our advantage and Majak flogged him in terms of work around the ground.

Was reading in the press today that Majak seems to have turned a corner and finally looks like he belongs at AFL level consistently, due to higher work rate and improved attitude. But they did mention that his future is still a bit uncertain, given he plays second fiddle to Goldstein.

Given glaring defficiency in our ruck stocks, I was a fan of perhaps picking him up last season, when North delisted him (pending the trial of course). Wondering whether he would still be a relatively cheap pick up if we were to trade for him?

 

[TigerMasochist]

Hamper may have won the hit outs against Majak, but not sure how many were to our advantage and Majak flogged him in terms of work around the ground.

Was reading in the press today that Majak seems to have turned a corner and finally looks like he belongs at AFL level consistently, due to higher work rate and improved attitude. But they did mention that his future is still a bit uncertain, given he plays second fiddle to Goldstein.

Given glaring defficiency in our ruck stocks, I was a fan of perhaps picking him up last season, when North delisted him (pending the trial of course). Wondering whether he would still be a relatively cheap pick up if we were to trade for him?

Geez, Majak was first drafted as a rookie in 2009.
He's into his seventh season at an AFL club for 18 senior games. He looks an amazing physical specimen and has a crazy high lights reel but there's nil reason for him not to have played more games than his inability to actually play a game of footy rather than some thirty second flashes.
Carey made a comment, n got laughed at, after he'd kicked half a dozen in one of his first ( perhaps his first game ) that Majak would be lucky to get to fifty games. Because Majak didn't understand how to play the game. Still got a fair way for Majak to go before he gets to those fifty games, he still provides flashes of brilliance but not much else.
Don't think he'd be the type of player we'd want to be putting on our list n hoping he eventually learns to play the game, we've already got enough problems with the mob we've got.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Geez, Majak was first drafted as a rookie in 2009.
He's into his seventh season at an AFL club for 18 senior games. He looks an amazing physical specimen and has a crazy high lights reel but there's nil reason for him not to have played more games than his inability to actually play a game of footy rather than some thirty second flashes.
Carey made a comment, n got laughed at, after he'd kicked half a dozen in one of his first ( perhaps his first game ) that Majak would be lucky to get to fifty games. Because Majak didn't understand how to play the game. Still got a fair way for Majak to go before he gets to those fifty games, he still provides flashes of brilliance but not much else.
Don't think he'd be the type of player we'd want to be putting on our list n hoping he eventually learns to play the game, we've already got enough problems with the mob we've got.

Part of the problem with Daw is where do you play him? He's 195 cm's, which is short for a ruck man these days and unless he strikes a spud like Hampson he's going to lose that contest. Then there is the matter as you say that he's been in the system for 7 years and still can't read the play. I doubt he ever will be able to. Compare him to Chol, who is still in his early days, but even now shows that he can read the play better than Majak.

 

[leon]

Then you and TM will be happy to hear that someone claimed on, I think it was on the CH.9 FS this morning, that WE are into him.

 

[Panthera Tigris]

Geez, Majak was first drafted as a rookie in 2009.
He's into his seventh season at an AFL club for 18 senior games. He looks an amazing physical specimen and has a crazy high lights reel but there's nil reason for him not to have played more games than his inability to actually play a game of footy rather than some thirty second flashes.
Carey made a comment, n got laughed at, after he'd kicked half a dozen in one of his first ( perhaps his first game ) that Majak would be lucky to get to fifty games. Because Majak didn't understand how to play the game. Still got a fair way for Majak to go before he gets to those fifty games, he still provides flashes of brilliance but not much else.
Don't think he'd be the type of player we'd want to be putting on our list n hoping he eventually learns to play the game, we've already got enough problems with the mob we've got.

All fair comments and I don't necessarily disagree (have doubts myself). More reading some articles in the press this morning where North have been talking him up as much improved in attitude, work rate and hence form in the twos. As opposed to previous years where common perception had been poor attitude and lack of genuine effort and desire to be a consistent AFL level player.

Yet even this being the case, he'll struggle to get a game with an all Australian ruck ahead of him at North.

 

[tigertim]

Then you and TM will be happy to hear that someone claimed on, I think it was on the CH.9 FS this morning, that WE are into him.

This sould be going against Dimmas mantra of a ruckman having to be bigger than the current rucks (200 & 201cm)

 

[TigerMasochist]

Then you and TM will be happy to hear that someone claimed on, I think it was on the CH.9 FS this morning, that WE are into him.

That'd probably be that imbecile Parrot, likely hoping we'll give Norf a first round draft pick for all his footy smarts. Reckon there's a good chance Cholly will be a better footballer than Majak by the end of next year.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Geelong - 2016
Gm  	Opponent  	Rd  	R  	#  	KI  	MK  	HB  	DI  	GL  	BH  	HO  	TK  	RB  	IF  	CL  	CG  	FF  	FA  	BR  	CP  	UP  	CM  	MI  	1%  	BO  	GA  	%P  
66	Hawthorn	1	W	9	8	1	6	14	3	 	16	3	 	3	4	6	3	2	 	13	3	1	 	7	 	1	74
67	Greater 	2	L	9	2	2	9	11	 	 	9	1	 	1	3	2	1	1	        9	3	1	 4	2      79
68	Brisbane 	3	W	9	6	1	8	14	 	1	18	3	 	 	4	3	3	2	 	6	5	 	 	3	 	 	67
69	Essendon	4	W	9	3	2	3	6	1	2	10	4	 	 	1	1	1	 	 	3	3	1	2	1	 	 	71
70	Port Adel	5	W	9	6	6	4	10	 	1	22	1	2	3	2	3	1	2	 	6	5	1	1	4	 	 	65
71	Gold Coast	6	W	9	7	3	8	15	1	1	12	1	 	5	3	 	1	 	 	9	6	2	1	1	 	1	76
72	West C	7	W	9	3	 	6	9	 	1	14	 	 	1	3	1	2	 	 	8	1	 	 	3	 	 	72
73	Adelaide	8	W	9	5	3	10	15	 	1	31	1	 	3	1	 	 	 	 	9	6	1	 	7	 	 	74
74	Collingw	9	L	9	4	 	6	10	1	 	12	4	 	3	2	3	1	 	 	10	 	 	 	3	 	 	63
75	Carlton	10	L	9	3	 	7	10	1	1	20	5	1	 	1	1	 	1	 	8	3	 	 	3	 	 	72
76	GWS  	11	W	9	7	       12	19	1	        31	4	2	2	10	2	2	1	       15	5	        	7	 	 	78

Thanks, Baloo. That's much more organised.

Zac Smith cost Geelong two third rounders. As a #2 ruck he generates numbers that are better than Hansel's around the ground/forward line. Like Hansel he can't mark. He gets his hand to the ball. But better than that he had ten clearances on the weekend. He was real good in the damp. His worst is nothing special. But he's big enough to compete. And NB goals.

Smith and Hansel will meet this year. Interesting times. Maybe Smith can't turn on his left.

 

[tigertim]

Thanks, Baloo. That's much more organised.

Zac Smith cost Geelong two third rounders. As a #2 ruck he generates numbers that are better than Hansel's around the ground/forward line. Like Hansel he can't mark. He gets his hand to the ball. But better than that he had ten clearances on the weekend. He was real good in the damp. His worst is nothing special. But he's big enough to compete. And NB goals.

Smith and Hansel will meet this year. Interesting times. Maybe Smith can't turn on his left.

Yep, Zac has Hampy covered EXCEPT for:
Marks, 1.9 to 1.6 for Smith
Hit outs: 31-17
Frees against: 2-0.8
Clangers: 2.8-2.0

 

[BrisTiger24]

I see Zac Smith got 8 of the coaches votes on the weekend. Doubt Hampson has 8 coaches votes in his career.

 

[lamb22]

Yey! The dissection is in the mailbox.

Quite a good highlight reel of Hammer's ruckwork against North. Recommended viewing!

 

[UKTiger]

Quite a good highlight reel of Hammer's ruckwork against North. Recommended viewing!

I did like the tap work direct to a North player and his three legged carthorse chase behind the ball.

 

[tigertim]

I read some headline where apparently Ken Hinkley said that its to accept that youre ging to lose the HO and then work with it from there. Seems more and more people are waking up to the large pointlessness of the ruckman ( in general)

 

[tigersnake]

Geez, Majak was first drafted as a rookie in 2009.
He's into his seventh season at an AFL club for 18 senior games. He looks an amazing physical specimen and has a crazy high lights reel but there's nil reason for him not to have played more games than his inability to actually play a game of footy rather than some thirty second flashes.
Carey made a comment, n got laughed at, after he'd kicked half a dozen in one of his first ( perhaps his first game ) that Majak would be lucky to get to fifty games. Because Majak didn't understand how to play the game. Still got a fair way for Majak to go before he gets to those fifty games, he still provides flashes of brilliance but not much else.
Don't think he'd be the type of player we'd want to be putting on our list n hoping he eventually learns to play the game, we've already got enough problems with the mob we've got.

Agree TM. Does some amazing athletic feats, but no feel for the game. Mabior much better in this area IMO, and will be as big and strong.