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Shane Edwards
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Bill James said:
Bill, SF go into action more than 2-3 times in a decade believe me. SF people are physically fitter than AFL footballers because of the type of role they are trained to do.
CK, rocks for breakfast no, rats on the other hand yes.
Regarding the training of footballers, it would be nice if someone spent the time and money to come up with a "virtual reality" type programme that puts footballers into a "pressure" type situation related to their decision making and disposal skills. In fact I'm surprised that no one has even thought of using that option, sure its expensive but it's a pretty good useful tool to have around to train with because you can be put into all sorts of different pressure scenario's and you have to react to them accordingly. Just look at airline pilots and the simulators they use constantly to make sure they are up to speed when they fly the real thing. Golfers can use this sort of tool as well, to make decisions about how they will play their next shot and then they execute the shot and the computer tells them what happened to that shot. Why can't the same be done with a footballer, its cuts out the injury worry and it gives the footballer much needed exposure to pressure away from playing a real game.
As for young Edwards, I for one think its got the talent but his skills need refinement.
Hopefully now that Wallace has gone and with the forth coming review, Edwards will get the necessary development to go on and become a good AFL footballer and make some really good contributions to the team he is playing with, but that's up to the Board and how they move the Football Department forward in the next few months.
Tango said:
Good Post Tango. You have hit the nail on the head.
Also, any analogies between football and actual battle conducted by true Australian heros risking their lives for their country, I find insulting to those members and casts footballers as something more than the mere athaletes that they are. This always comes up in the ANZAC game where they build up the players as though they are ANZAC veterens. But do agree that Richmond need to train under more pressure, physical and mental.
there are many ways that pressure can be simualted ina training environment, and yes we cant practice in front of 50000 fans
but what is it that causes the stress and pressure - fear of failure
this is what should be practiced
we should be concentrating on goalkicking under enourmous pressure and fear of failure (both set shot and on the run)
we should be concentrating on shephards, blocks, tackling, working together to free opponents
we should be working on our core strength, muscle mass and fitness base
we should be working on intensity everytime you step inside the club and everytime you put the jumper on
less time on fancy gameplans and tricks, the players know how to play, they just need guidance, belief and discipline
there is no excuse for not being the fittest team in the competition - that should be the number 1 objective
but what is it that causes the stress and pressure - fear of failure
this is what should be practiced
we should be concentrating on goalkicking under enourmous pressure and fear of failure (both set shot and on the run)
we should be concentrating on shephards, blocks, tackling, working together to free opponents
we should be working on our core strength, muscle mass and fitness base
we should be working on intensity everytime you step inside the club and everytime you put the jumper on
less time on fancy gameplans and tricks, the players know how to play, they just need guidance, belief and discipline
there is no excuse for not being the fittest team in the competition - that should be the number 1 objective
Suprised the debate about the development of indigenous players hasn't flowed over into this thread considering Shanes heritage!
Baloo said:
Everyone will have a different perception of what making it means.
The reasons I think he's a good chance of ending up a pretty good player are as follows.
- I think he's got an excellent motor.
- His work in tight is exceptional and his hand passing some of the best on the list.
- He is a good tackler and works hard to pressure the opposition.
- He wants to be a success and works at his game.
- Likes a goal and can find them.
Yes his disposal under pressure is questionable as has been some of his decision making but he still very young. I think these things can improve with time and development. Not all are Chris Judd & Tambling's improvement this season highlights that again.
I don't think Shane's kicking technique is as poor as some suggest and as evidenced last time out looks pretty effective when he's on song. Coburg watchers have noticed an improvement by foot also. He is still very slight and needs more mass because currently he is having trouble playing against mature bodies. For a player that operates best in traffic, increasing his strength should be his number one goal.
He's still a kid and WILL get better IMO.
Go Eddy.
After the great game he had against the Eagles i hope young Titch backs it up with a solid effort this weekend and really show he has turned the corner. I myself have full confidence he will. As i said in the first post i firmly believe that Rawlings knows him better than Wallace and thus uses him in the team better.
One thing i will had i think he has put on more bulk since last year adding to his improvement, but n saying that he still has more bulking up to do.
He is a gifted young player IMO
One thing i will had i think he has put on more bulk since last year adding to his improvement, but n saying that he still has more bulking up to do.
He is a gifted young player IMO
Tigers of Old said:Everyone will have a different perception of what making it means.
The reasons I think he's a good chance of ending up a pretty good player are as follows.
- I think he's got an excellent motor.
- His work in tight is exceptional and his hand passing some of the best on the list.
- He is a good tackler and works hard to pressure the opposition.
- He wants to be a success and works at his game.
- Likes a goal and can find them.
Yes his disposal under pressure is questionable as has been some of his decision making but he still very young. I think these things can improve with time and development. Not all are Chris Judd & Tambling's improvement this season highlights that again.
I don't think Shane's kicking technique is as poor as some suggest and as evidenced last time out looks pretty effective when he's on song. Coburg watchers have noticed an improvement by foot also. He is still very slight and needs more mass because currently he is having trouble playing against mature bodies. For a player that operates best in traffic, increasing his strength should be his number one goal.
He's still a kid and WILL get better IMO.
Go Eddy.
Definitely looked more at home under Jade, whether that confidence or a game plan thing I don't know, but was much better in his ball use.
Handling pressure on the footy field is about being exposed to the situation. You cannot duplicate that in training. Just like you cannot expose yourself to the extra pressure of playing finals footy in a practise match. It's all about experience in those situations, and you don't truly experience added pressure until you are in the real thing. Simulated pressure in a training environment is very different.
And please no more war analogies, footy is a game, generally you're not preparing yourself for possible death.
And please no more war analogies, footy is a game, generally you're not preparing yourself for possible death.
pressure is perceived
a person can be under the hammer being chased and feel no pressure at all but a player running on his own down a wing can feel immense pressure.
Pressure CAN be simulated, pressure can be anything. a bet, threat of being ridiculed, anything can add pressure!!
its getting used to it that is hard and it doesn't seem to be something that has been worked on in the past.
a person can be under the hammer being chased and feel no pressure at all but a player running on his own down a wing can feel immense pressure.
Pressure CAN be simulated, pressure can be anything. a bet, threat of being ridiculed, anything can add pressure!!
its getting used to it that is hard and it doesn't seem to be something that has been worked on in the past.
I think this is an area he actually he needs a lot of work.Tigers of Old said:
Way too often he gets it in tight (at least he can get it) and handballs a little give to a stationary target in as much traffic, or worse position than as he is. I guess that's more of an option thing, would like to see him hang onto it a fraction longer and choose a better option.
I reckon your right oldie in that he has the tools, just (currently/previously) not taking the correct option often enough.
