Tend to agree. The bar is set terribly low. He is miles off it.
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Samson Ryan
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Agree Zippy, can't believe people rated him today. I must not of been watch the same game. I thought he was terrible. Rag dolled by everyone. Gave us absolutely NOTHING.
Yes, but he did take an overhead mark, albeit uncontested, at the end of the third quarter….nearly choked on my beer, couldn’t believe what I’d just seen!
It cannot be his bulk that is the problem with his game. He has so much to learn like technique and marking just to name a couple. Just being tall doesn't mean you can ruck and right now Ryan is proving that but with Naks out, the cupboard was bare and in hindsight , we should have just used undersized guys who will compete
Where is his development after a few years in our system. Yeah I understand he is not offering much but our development coaches have to take some of the heat surely. I thick Evan needs to be moved on been a good club man but we need a new operator
That’s just wrong.
He was playing against Cameron who is not a star but is a premiership ruckman. Held his own in the ruck contests, competed really well down the line and was involved around the ground quite a bit. I posted earlier that if he had held a few marks he got his hands to his game would have been good.
Serviceable, shaded by Cameron but to say he gave nothing isn’t correct.
Collingwood marked the ball at will down the line. I guess it helps that it seems to be the major plank of our game plan (along with the dinky kick to the back pocket from a kick in) so the opposition know what we are going to do everytime.
Lloyd Meek is 26yo, check out his first 3 season..........just saying.
Gets his hands to the ball and paddles it down.
If they are training him to do that at training I’ll give the game away. It’s almost unwatchable
If they are training him to do that at training I’ll give the game away. It’s almost unwatchable
Shaded? Cameron had 33 hitouts from 58 ruck contests.
Samson 13 from 60.
Stats arent everything but I thought mostly Samson really struggled strength wise in the ruck. Apart from a few tackles his follow up work is pretty non existent at ground level. He doesn’t work anywhere near hard enough yet.
Agree with others. The bar is set extremely low.
We missed Nank enormously.
Yeah, in the VFL. He only plays AFL if Nank and Kosi are injured. Kosi is a better ruck.
Made out of paper. No core strength. If Samson was steak it would be all sinew.
Soldo backup type but Soldo was better. Pretty much useless with our current game style kicking down the line while his hands resemble cymbals.
Maybe just youth and inexperience but sadly nothing so far to even indicate he will make best 22 in the future.
Soldo backup type but Soldo was better. Pretty much useless with our current game style kicking down the line while his hands resemble cymbals.
Maybe just youth and inexperience but sadly nothing so far to even indicate he will make best 22 in the future.
Million percent agree we missed the big Nank. He will walk the B&F in and is now arguably our most important player.
But there is more to rucking than winning a hitout, As posted earlier:
Samson:
14 disposals 10 efficient 6 marks 4 tackles (most) 13 hitouts 5 clearances (most) 6 contested 5 score involvements 0 turnovers
Cameron:
18 disposals 11 efficient 5 marks 2 tackles 33 hitouts 2 clearances 2 score involvements 2 turnovers
Thought he got rid of his bad habit of one handed marking attempts and more than held his own.
Lots still to develop and he will rightly get time to do so. A step forward after a middlng year.
Benny Gale couldn’t mark in his first 3 years but got a lot lot better
