Agree, no question there lack of defensive pressure is not what the coaching staff want to see and the slower tempo of VFL suits them down to the ground.tigerlove said:Had a great season last year. Miles had great years previously. I think the reason Miles and Lloyd are not getting games is for similar reasons. They aren't quick and they aren't maybe as defensively capable as others who have taken their spots, particularly in that pressure act department. Clearly the significant game plan change of this year hasn't helped either of those two players. It's not a coincidence to me that they are two of the standouts at VFL level because they are both very accomplished players but just not unfortunately relevant anymore in the eyes of our coaching panel (except as depth).