Howard was a *smile* who should have got the electric chair years ago. Bush, Blair, and many others also.
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Russia Invades Ukraine
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Ukraine is not the threat, it is the pawn in the geopolitical games played by both sides.
Like any pawn, no-one cares if it suffers.
DS
And yet people do care, and the EU and the US are trying to do something about it.
This nihilistic "realpolitik" attitude is bullshyte.
The overwhelming majority of liberal democracies all over the world agree with you on this point, it seems. And of course most importantly so do the over whelming majority of Ukrainians many of whom are willing to die for freedom of choice.
If the Ukrainians are willing to die for democratic ideals then democratic countries must rally. To do otherwise would undermine democracy as a way of life and encourage further tyranny. Bet China’s raised a few eye brows over this show of unity.
Crankin up the nukes, Putin
He's goin off to war
And he ain't gunna listen to Nato's pissin around
Had seven long months bringin up his tanks
Stacked a little fuel away
And you better believe he's gunna bring his bombs to town
Turn on the tears Ukraine don't forget to let the whole world see
What a low down deal you got when you rejected me
You can drown your days in vodka
Talkin to the Poms n Yanks
You can shove your French supporters and your German pretenders too
GOODYE GOODBYE, I'm gunna kick your Ukraine arse.
With humblest apologies to Chisel for the bastardisation.
Only one cure for humans constantly kicking the *smile* out of one another n shitting on everything else. Unfortunately humans are the bestest most special critters on the planet so we're completely entitled to *smile* the *smile* out of everything whenever we want, as long as we pretend to be sorry about it n promise to do better next time.
He's goin off to war
And he ain't gunna listen to Nato's pissin around
Had seven long months bringin up his tanks
Stacked a little fuel away
And you better believe he's gunna bring his bombs to town
Turn on the tears Ukraine don't forget to let the whole world see
What a low down deal you got when you rejected me
You can drown your days in vodka
Talkin to the Poms n Yanks
You can shove your French supporters and your German pretenders too
GOODYE GOODBYE, I'm gunna kick your Ukraine arse.
With humblest apologies to Chisel for the bastardisation.
Only one cure for humans constantly kicking the *smile* out of one another n shitting on everything else. Unfortunately humans are the bestest most special critters on the planet so we're completely entitled to *smile* the *smile* out of everything whenever we want, as long as we pretend to be sorry about it n promise to do better next time.
Yeh it’s pretty simple. You either believe in it or you don’t. And by not acting your condoning the Russian action.
Czechoslovakia had the Velvet Revolution wonder what Russia’s will be called?
I am not sure Yugoslavia in the 90's qualifies as peace, Ant. Genocide - shove your "ethnic cleansing" you weasel filth - rape, mutilation, and slaughter of innocents, including babies and children under the watchful eye of the UN. Yeah, Europe didn't have a major conflict involving multiple states. But some of those states just shifted the theatre of conflict in that 70 years out of Europe - Congo, Algeria, Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, for example.
Nothing can be done is not the message. Something needs to be done. War is a lucrative exercise for some. Bullets, munitions, weapons, equipment. Some executives and shareholders will be receiving a financial boon from the tissue shredded and the blood spilled in Ukraine. And they will toast their profit with excess as they always do. And then when this war is consigned to a simple wiki page they will plot and scheme their next sales push in the halls and corridors of capital buildings around the planet. And another war will occur somewhere around the globe. My money is on Taiwan.
Putin needs to be hung. That's what needs to be done.
Toyota, Honda, Mazda join global Russia boycott
"Japan’s biggest car manufacturers Toyota, Honda and Mazda have joined a global boycott of Russia in response to Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine.Toyota said it was stopping production at its plant in St Petersburg from Friday and halting shipments to Russia.
Honda will stop exports of cars and motorcycles, while Mazda is suspending shipments of parts to a plant in Russia, according to Nikkei.
“Toyota is watching the ongoing developments in Ukraine with great concern for the safety of people of Ukraine and hopes for a safe return to peace as soon as possible,” the company said in a statement.
“We are also monitoring global developments and will make necessary decisions as required.”
Shares of all three car manufacturer rose in Tokyo on Thursday.
Bloomberg"
These boycotts and sanctions will have a big effect, but will it be soon enough?
As it happened: Russian advance stalls outside Ukraine capital as nation’s death toll rises; Sydney dodges wild weather as BOM warns to ‘hunker down’ for the weekend
It’s day seven of the Russian invasion and Ukrainians have spent yet another sleepless night in bunkers, basements and bomb shelters as their cities were attacked. Follow our live coverage.
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Yes, I did mention Yugoslavia, but no war between existing states for 70 years is pretty good. Post-colonial conflicts outside of Europe don't really fit either - the major point of the EU was to preserve peace between its member states and it has done that.
And you are right though, many western nations profiteer from arms sales and conflicts which have largely been pushed onto developing nations.
How else are they gunna get rid of their obsolete n out of date kabooms if they don't on sell them to developing countries? Could you just imagine the size of the stockpiles of useless crap lying about if the Septics, Frogs, Poms, Russkies etc couldn't off load their second rate crap after they'd updated to the bright shiny new kabooms.
Yugoslavia wasn't part of the EU at the time though Tommy
Not until after the wars and as you say horrendous and callous attacks on fellow humans.
Ant's point was that the EU was formed to band countries together to stop them fighting each other. It started with Germany and France joining together after WW2.
Closer economic and social ties outweigh military reasons for war.
So the EU's founding role isn't to prevent wars in wider Europe, but between the member states.
Ant is right it has been wonderfully successful.
A lot of talk about NATO'S role.
Looking at the other hand (with the carrot not the stick)
in the last 10-15 there has been significant advances by European countries to engage with Russia.
Look at Germany as a major purchaser of oil and gas. France a major partner.
Look at the companies that are now extricating themselves at high cost. She'll, ExxonMobil, Apple, Toyota etc the list goes on.
Look at the engagement of sporting organisations. World Cup, champions league, F1.
This economic activity should have built a positive relation, so that Russia see Europe as a trading partner and cultural neighbour where there is mutual benefit.
That Russia had so much to gain by further embracing the world while retaining its culture and way of life.
All this talk that the West forced Putin into this invasion is ridiculous.
There were options and significant incentives gor Russia to maintain peace
Looking at the other hand (with the carrot not the stick)
in the last 10-15 there has been significant advances by European countries to engage with Russia.
Look at Germany as a major purchaser of oil and gas. France a major partner.
Look at the companies that are now extricating themselves at high cost. She'll, ExxonMobil, Apple, Toyota etc the list goes on.
Look at the engagement of sporting organisations. World Cup, champions league, F1.
This economic activity should have built a positive relation, so that Russia see Europe as a trading partner and cultural neighbour where there is mutual benefit.
That Russia had so much to gain by further embracing the world while retaining its culture and way of life.
All this talk that the West forced Putin into this invasion is ridiculous.
There were options and significant incentives gor Russia to maintain peace
Yep pick a side. It may not be perfect but give me liberal democracy over dictatorship any day. Anyone defending Putin has chosen.
That *smile* needs to be taken out now. At the very least charged with war crimes. Targeting nuclear reactors, civilian apartment blocks. Nothing he says can be taken at face value. He is a murderous, cowardly thug. He keeps calling the Ukrainians nazis but his actions show who the real nazis are here
Well those incompetent aholes nearly did exactly that in Zaporizhzia today.
Ironic that they almost “Zapped” themselves the criminals.
(See how I did that Force Field ? You know that was gold.)
